happened with the plane. somebody flew the plane, whether it was hitting heading select or programming it through the fms. but we know now, as far as the logbooks are concerned that would make it irrelevant. we don't think the plane broke. we think it flew for a long way. not as a result of mechanical malfunction but human intervention. >> i see you -- you seem so uncomfortable in your seat. >> well, just the comment, we know now because we don't know now. we have a variety of statements from the authorities that basically say it was deliberate, but we don't know why or how. so i venture to respectfully disagree. to say we know now, we don't, sir. >> yeah, we do know. >> do you care to respond to that? >> we know so much about it. we know where the plane flew. we know that it went through a