still does, and to that end, i try to help our wounded vets as much as i can at the bush library there at smu. his, of course, was even more personal, because delaney and white were not only his crewmates but friends. he lived. they didn't. so it's a much more in some ways much more emotional for him, and you're right, to this day, he still thinks about it, and when jen on his 90th birthday interviewed him, competition for you, by the way. >> before me. >> she asked is he still thinking about them? he said all the time. it's a very interesting answer. >> it is. what does your dad think of the book? >> i think he likes it. he doesn't comment on it. mother -- >> he hasn't told you what he thought of the book?