him back from hong kong underway. snowden is the former contractor that admitted leaking highly classified documents about the phone and internet programs, documents he acquired while working for booz alan hamilton. the newspaper published some of those. glenn greenwald obtained some of the documents and joins me by the phone and jeffrey toobin. glenn, i know you think he did patriotism of revealing those papers. what do you make of this? >> it's the absolutely atrocious record of the treatment of whistle blowers and leakers. the espionage act is designed to criminalize descent. on the a total of three leaker haves been prosecuted under that statute in the pre-obama era.