why is that? >> we have to try and do what we think not only new york and los angeles will appreciate but also some town in the midwest that will be scared to death by prince or a string of other black faces. >> interesting. okay. thank you very much. >> when are we going to see anybody of color on mtv? because you said music television. when are you going to start covering all genres of music? >> music has no color. it shouldn't have color. i don't believe in that. i don't want it labeled black or white, i want it labeled music. ♪ >> 1983, motown has this big tv special, motown's 25th anniversary. at that time "thriller" is out and "thriller" is doing well. but michael jackson couldn't get "billie jean" on mtv. ♪ she was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene ♪