there's nothing left. but let's just see. the conversations are still ongoing. i've been talking to everybody. we've been having good conversations. >> now conversations are ongoing, jake, at this exact moment at chuck schumer's office. joe manchin is there at this moment talking with a handful of other democratic senators about whether there's any way forward to getting him on board. he said he's willing to talk, but getting to the point where democrats want him to go, to change the rules to pass a sweeping measure to either overturn a 2013 supreme court ruling gutting the voting rights act or changing -- imposing a suite of reforms, getting to that point is a very heavy lift. but the democratic leaders are still pushing. >> manu raju on capitol hill, thanks so much. democratic congressman joe naguse of colorado. congressman, thanks for joining us. you heard senator manchin say he's apposed to this rules change that will allow election reform legislation to pass with a simple majority in the senate.