time. you left back in 2001. you were upset about what you said the nsa was using, with some data collection techniques. you had actually created it. >> it was more like the data they were taking in. it was coming from the telecoms, the specific one that i knew was at&t. at&t was giving nsa on the order of 320 million records of u.s. citizens' communications with other u.s. citizens every day. >> what do you make of this current disclosure about what's going on? >> this is the fbi trying to get evidence to take into a t. it doesn't talk about the intelligence community and the collection that's been ongoing since 9/11. >> according to dianne feinstein, what we learn now has been going on for seven years, but every 90 days or so they have to reauthorize it and get the court to approve it. >> it used to be every 45 days. and now i guess it's every 90 days. >> there's nothing illegal based