they've been searching long enough maybe even some kind of eyewitness or reports from a ship and maybe even debris. but they have to be really sure of that before they tell that to the families and that's the kind of news that the families must hear first. they should not hear that from the news. >> and mary talk to us about what this means for the search and rescue operation. we're still going to call it that until we're told otherwise. what does it mean now that we're talking about the possibility of this aircraft being at the bottom of the water? we had been told previously it was a visual on the surface, of course. >> right, what happens now, things get moved into very high gear. now that they have announced that they think they know where it is the assets will move into the area. they literally can start moving in the assets to do the search and recovery. they will move in and this is compared to other ocean crashes that have occurred. this is fairly shallow water. they can use divers. they don't necessarily have to