Laura coats, and this is cnn tonight. Weve got two huge stories tonight that were following, of course right here in the nations capital, our continuing coverage of the state of the Union Address. Meanwhile, another sided country in los angeles, we have breaking news on another major story, in the world of sports. Entertainment, and frankly american culture. Lebron james tonight breaking the record to become the nbas alltime leading scorer. Passing a fellow laker, Kareem Abduljabbar. Once he broke this record the game was actually stopped for the celebration that was certainly do lebron joined on his court by his family, by the man he also passed, Kareem Abduljabbar. And even the nba commissioner, adam silver. In other words, everyone was watching to see whether tonight would be the night that he actually did it. I came into the game, and watch what happened in this really important, powerful moment. Lebron, for the record, hes got it. Hes done it. Lebron james is now the alltime leading scorer, in the history of the nba. The king wins the crown. So his son brawny, of, Course Election in the making in his own right. And everyone taken to the court and seeing the emotion pouring out of them. I mean really he has done it, he came in scoring 36 points at least, mind you, what the record was actually set by Kareem Abduljabbar, in 1984. Eight months before that man, lebron james was even born. Joining me, now cnn correspondent omar jimenez is in los angeles, along with cnn contributor bob costas as well im excited to talk to you both i want to go to you first omar, on this. Because you are really in the room where it happened, so to speak. We witnessed that he finally did it. He was finally there, what was the mood in the stadium to see that happen . Well, there is a big question i think going into, this was lebron actually gonna go for tonight, or is you gonna take us time so to speak, and try to do it on thursday. It is very clear in the first few possessions, that he was gonna do it tonight. It might have been clear before that, hand when he walked into the arena in an allblack shiny suit, ready to, go all about business. And when we got to just point a few points left. Every basket seemed to bring a bigger cheer for this crowd, and of course when your two points away, from him breaking kareems record. Every cell phone you can think of was out, when the moment happens, he ran into the center court, Arms Up In The Air in triumph, he was emotional. Fans couldnt believe that they were here to witness this true moment in history. And of course, family, friends, celebrities. Jayz over here as well, kareem was speaking to many people here in the crowd, just as the game finished up as well so many people were waiting to see that moment. They got that moment, and it is one that lebron had said previously, leading up to this, it wasnt something that he thought about when he began playing basketball, when he began playing professionally. But it is a record no one thought could be broken, ended up being him. And we look at what hes done over the course of his career, who else wouldve been . I, mean i was actually at the game when he passed karl malone, and even that was a moment. A student few food firsttime, it was crying just to see a legend at that time. Now just to know, that we witnessed a path to history. Also in the, audience his own son, Fastball Stars in their own right. At least bronny, whos the older. Them talk to me about what it was like to see the family, to see his loved ones coming in and celebrating this moment as well. Indian l. A. Of all places. Yeah, theres a moment after he put his arms up in triumph, he returned to center court, was greeted by his family. They embraced as the crowd chanted mvp, over and over again. Lebron started to get emotional, and who wouldnt be in that moment . Hes obviously someone very involved in his kids lives. As much as you can, be at the level that he is that at this point. After the game was over, just here at center court, he embraced with his family for a picture, all of them could not be more proud, there are messages played by his wife, savannah, and this is children, including bronny james, which is on his own basketball path, congratulating their dad. Theres one thing that heard talking to the folks over at Lebron Jamess family foundation, is that yes, this isnt on the court score in the record that he has broken today. But what many know him as, off the court, know that his legacy is gonna be so much bigger than what he accomplished on this court. And i think you can feel that in the reaction to him getting this milestone, but this isnt just a score, this isnt just a basketball player, this is an icon for so many people, not just on the court but of course with the world as well. So i guess omar, dont just shut up and double, thats one way to say it right . Thinking about those moments when, maradona answered, i was rhetorical. Nice to talk to, nice to see you tonight. I want to turn now to bob costas, because bob, look, this is so significant, as omar alluded to, it wasnt the idea of just points on the board, this record was set in 1984, before lebron james was you born. Here we are with the significant moment, Kareem Abduljabbar watching on, as it in this moment. It was done, after 1410 games in the nba. What is your reaction to this monumental moment . Well, and sports will be like little, perhaps significant, perhaps interesting coincidences. Much has been made at the fact that these plane at the very lie highlevel. Not just in italy now and elite player at age 38. He scored 38 points tonight, as you pass the record, 36 given the record, he had one more basket. Perhaps it will be a footnote. But the lakers, who are fighting for a playoff spot. He is much better as an individual the next years of royal. People will necessarily remember that, but in the way this weekend context really. Given that point, hes been averaging 30. Points a game this season. This is been a significant here from already, in terms of his average, in terms of stat lines. But the idea that it was driven. Some thought, could he do it . Averaging 30. Averaging 27 or 20 china over the weekend. The fact that to happen tonight, and inner drive coming out just at that cherry on top. Yeah, he has had an extraordinary career, laura, by any measure. Ive always thought that when you talk with the greatest Basketball Players will time, when you include centers and, that its almost like including pictures with position players, or goalies with forwards, wingers, and defenceman. In hockey, centers are separate category. I dont know how you compare kareem, wilt chamberlain, shaq, or a Healthy People wild, or akeem elijah won or brazil, i dont know how you compare them. When you come down to the greatest player of alltime seems to have gone down to lebron or Michael Jordan won bronze of one for. I dont think this diminishes kareem in any way, and i believe if you have a conversation in basketball, you have to have that conversation. You can compare will to kareem, you can compare bill russell if you want, to shaq. At separate thing, forcing cars are separate from centers. And the lebron good jordan debate will gone, for the sake of context , ten 17 if you just talk about wealth, his pure numbers of points and rebounds per game, a ridiculous. But they came in a different era. Michaels teams won six championships, he was six for six in the finals. Not as benign finals, which is a great achievement, his teams have won four and theyve lost five. He won titles with three different teams. The calves, the heat, and now the lakers, of Course Michael was identified only with the bose, and towards the end of the career, the Competitive Jones got him again he came back and played two more years with wizards, which is almost a footnote. So michael is six for six in the finals. He won ten scoring championships, and he was the mvp of all six finals in which he competed. So that is a tough resume for anyone to exceed, but if anyone is in that discussion, and kobe is there someone, magic there somewhere, Larry Barrett is there somewhere. But if you boil it down to those two non centers. I said the consensus is Michael Jordan lebron james. Michael jordans athleticism and skill, undeniable. Just think of the list that lebron is on, carl mcglone, Kareem Abduljabbar, kobe bryant of course, Michael Jordan. But from a Fans Perspective, i look at this not in terms of comparing to get the ultimate title of goat. But i look at it when curry passed reggie miller. The idea of the Fans Perspective of how exciting it is to see this dark moment. In fact lebron actually commented on what this moment meant. He was emotional just thinking about where he would rank, in really the worlds history. Here he is. This is now making the go . Im gonna let everyone else decide to that is, but its Great Partnership talk i want to hear you save. I am seeing myself against anyone is a four play this game. Irans gonna decide who their favorite ours. I know whatever into this table a recent night and wackadoo on the floor. Fire suit can the best to ever bother him, as so many other guys im just happy to be part of their journey. Here in that response, the level of humility, butler just of the ideas oh one said stay president , we hosted the kid from akron we. Both dorian, the last hour with not a pass, she played a clip that i did with him about 20 years ago, when news is coming out of high school in akron. And i said to him, and in need to put him on the spot, but i think is a fair question because jumping right from high school to a hall of fame career. No high will have or have the low scrutiny le pen for it. His games are televised, his High School Games for 12 hours on espn. Its five games or so the as it havent, his team, the cavaliers, was in the lottery. They are in the extra him. And theyve suffered made for the, better his consequential player from the start. But it took a while, before cleveland was able to win a championship, and he actually took a securities route. He went to miami, he won championships there. Then he went back to cleveland, and he got them a championship. An epic championship, when they defeated the very, very strong golden state warriors. And then he cant, lakers and manage to get one more, and still counting hoping for more. As he said in the postgame interview, he said that just because you scaled this mountain, that doesnt mean that he wants to quit. He thinks is gonna, play hes an incredible, shape he takes care of his body. He thinks you can play two or three more years, extend that record out. But also pursue a championship. Theres always detractors now. In a social media world, people take shots and anybody, no matter how accomplish they are. So to block on lebron for those who Take Jordan Side of the argument, is that he picked his team you might say miami imputed chris bought in jane weighed two and championship. And then yeah a lot of Kareem Abduljabbar did win one championship with Oscar Robertson in milwaukee, is a great player with the bucks, won five of his sick whose every circumstance divert the best you can say is that flower will always be in the argument Lebron Michael jordan, if they play for 100, years what weve been the discussion of the tiny handful of great players. And sometimes people who prefer the player from their own era they think that personal be forgotten. Im old enough to remember when hank and passed babe ruth. And of course there is a racial element in, that regrettably, which hank chimed over, and its eventually favorite remains a figure of legend, and hank aaron has his place, everlastingly, in the baseball history. And that argument about for ron and Michael Jordan will ron. Its part of what makes sports interesting. So five to say that theyre two very risk to have played. So you go and weve been lucky enough in recent years, to watch some of the greatest players in their respective force. Ive. If that record was set, it must before came jim was born. Imagine, a month from now, this good to have sight said immunity really if it takes is time to do it, we shall see. Are you good to hear is that mina. Thank you so much, bob costas. Thank, you laura. Weve got a lot more to come later in the show tonight. Coming out, Somebody Else whos trying to put some points on the board, President Biden. Why his team is highfiving in the west wing, during his state of the Union Address tonight. Into the notoodistant future of lincoln. Its what sanctuarary could look like. Feel like. Sound like. Even smellll like. More on that soon. The best part . The prequel is pretty sweet too. My name is joshua florence, and one thing i learned being a firefighter is plan ahead. You dont know what youre getting into, and one thing i learned being abut at the end of the day,. 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Morgan Wealth Management. All right its a pretty big night, we have a lot to talk about here, and here in the studio with me cnns senior political analyst, mark preston, also eva mccann, National Politics reporter, paul begala ands tristan so shes anderson, all here with me to talk about this monumental night as well. Lets begin with the atmosphere in the room, where is happening. Because it was not a particularly friendly audience, or angry one, there are some heckling, listen to this. Some republicans want medicare and Social Security sunset. Im not saying its a majority. Let me give you, and anybody who doubts it, contact my office, ill give you a copy, ill give you a copy of the proposal. I enjoy conversion. You know, means of congress doesnt keep the program is the way they are, im not saying someone short of, you are not even a significant price being proposed by individuals. I mean politely not naming, the thats been proposed by some of you. Look, folks. The idea is, that were not gonna be moved in to being threatened to default on the debt, if we dont respond. So folks, as we all apparently agree, Social Security medicare, is off the books now, right . They may have to call him the Lemonade Maker after that, paul, whats your take on that . Joe biden has a secret weapon. The republicans. They showed him to be happy while they were energetic, well they were unhinged. I think he dispelled a lot of the myths about joe biden. Hes not too old, lebron is 38, no its kind on him to retire. Republicans confirms all the negative myths, the democrats tell about them. They seemed unhinged, they were rude, they do in fact have a proposal, senator rick scott of florida, page 18 of his plan, for president was 100 right more than that the republicans made him look good. I feel theres a lot of folks who really have not watched premise was, questions the way they do the other party in opposition. Normally it, doesnt happen in our opposition, especially during the State Of The Union. The thing that was so powerful, was that President Biden set them up, he baited them into it and he took the bait. Until that moment, if you are nervous democrat, whos a little concerned about 2024 it was a little slow, it was both rushed, and low energy, and that moment happened. And invigorated President Biden a little bit, and shifted the momentum to where if you are nervous democrat before, it probably werent as nervous afterwards. Was a little bit of a here jacqui tacky, and then knowing there had been the proposal by at least some. Did you see that way . Laura, it is frankly, tacky if my mom was here, i she would say these folks have no home training. It allowed him to exhibit, strength an