dude, i just made out with mariah carey. >> larry: all right. you knew they were going to do that, obviously. you participated. >> i knew sort of. i didn't know what he was going to say at the end and i participated and i was like, oh, the diva thing, that's new. but, you know, i had fun. >> larry: what is a diva? >> well, technically, a diva -- and i know this because, like i've said a zillion times, my mom sang opera and other types -- styles of music. a diva, probably the first definition would be a talented vocalist usually an opera singer. that's a first definition. >> larry: most associated with opera? >> yes. >> larry: when did it come to the mariah careys and chers? >> oh, thank you. you're telling me they took a leap down now? >> larry: no. when did it come from the opera? the high c world? >> i think they started -- i don't know when. honestly, i don't know when. i just grew up hearing my mother