to this moment. and finally you have a leader in putin who is a kgb, shaped, molded, thought provoking leader that specializes in disinformation, misinformation, that thinks that this is the time that he can strike. i think it's a gross miscalculation. i think there's going to be an awful lot of suffering. but in the end, i think it's uncertain where we go. but i do believe what president biden said today. this will end not well for russia and mr. putin. >> you think putin is a war criminal? >> yes. >> should he be tried as a war criminal? >> i think he should. i think he should. we have been -- the west -- very lenient over the years. and, again, when i say this is a defining moment, a defining time in history, in world history,