sometimes you just have to -- i saw it live. i can't believe he just said that. what is a financial report of me? >> it's -- remember when he had those stacks of folders. >> the boxes. >> right, right. all of those were filled with blank paper. >> but he has been promising he's going to do the tax returns. what does that mean? is this going to produce anything? >> no. it's a con. he handed me a financial report. i looked at it. he said well, you can't take it with you. you can't write anything down it in. but that's how rich i am. and i didn't believe one of the numbers on it. so no one else should expect he is going to be honest about this. meaningful information is in his tax returns, and he's not going to release those. >> he often talks about, vicky, i have lost millions, or maybe even billions he said in dollars being president of the united states. >> right. "the new york times" is reporting new details have reported how profits have