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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 February 12, 2013

These guys to come get tattooed and we would split the money. It was a fair source of income at that time. He liked it so much, he decided to make a career out of it. He opened up a shop in maryland tattooing the usual dragons and cross bones. Never did he dream that one day he would use his love of tattoos to solve a problem that has eluded the worlds best surgeons for years. When i had the opportunity to do a portrait of a nipple on a lady, i did, and it changed things in the industry a little bit, i think. For susan mcmillon, hes also erased some of the taboo around tattoos. My parents always said you will never have a tattoo. Do not come home with a tattoo. I then told my children over my dead body will you have a tattoo. And of course i have to laugh because i have the tattoos now. And i love it. Anderson cooper 360 starts now. Erin, thanks very much. A lot happening tonight. The worst tornado some have seen in years. A pope resigns, which hasnt happened in six cinchries. The whan said he hao killed Osama Bin Laden reveals how his family lives in fear and what the governments protection. And murder in chicago have the city in shock. The killing of a 15yearold girl, gunned down just days after performing at president obamas inauguration. Her funeral was yesterday. Lets go to ted rowlands with the latest in chicago. What do we know . The death of hadiya pendalson has struck a nerve not only in chicago but across the country. Tonight, they have two men in custody. One is an 18yearold man, the other, a 20yearold man. Both are members of a chicago gang. According to a police source, there was no witness who came forward to break this case. Police officers worked on tips and were able to go out and find win witnesses. They do not have the murder weapon, according to the source. The charges that the two young men face, one charge of murder. Two charges each of attempted murder, and some weapons violations. Were waiting for a press conference at the bottom of the hour with more details, but two arrests in the death of Hadiya Pendleton. Do we know what kind of Evidence Police allegedly have against these two in. They dont have the murder weapon, which, of course, is a problem at trial, potentially, but they do apparently have witnesses. Those witnesses, they had to go out and get. Earlier today, one of the issues with filing charges in the case, according to superintendent gary mccarthy, was to kwinlsz the witnesses to come forward and go through with this, go to trial, get on the witness stand. Its a huge problem with the chicago violence issue. Nobody wants to come forward because they fear for their life. Chicago police say they have been able to get these witnesses to agree to go to trial and tell them what they know. And that is why they have been able to file charges tonight. You know, we have reported a lot on this whole sort of stop snitching movement and we have seen this around the country, but what a huge problem it is for police forces, and certainly in chicago we have reported on that a lot. When you say they went out and found these witnesses, do we know any more details . No, and when you think about it, there was a 40,000 reward. This story has been played every single day in the chicago area for the last two weeks. Its been played across the country, First Lady Michelle Obama was here over the weekend to attend hadiyas funeral. People knew about the reward, about what had happened, but nobody stepped up because of this antisnitching problem that is felt not only in chicago but across the country. They had to go out and get tips and basically find witnesses on their own and then convince them this is the right thing to do. What is so disturbing about this whole antisnitching thing, socalled, ted, is the idea that snitching used to be a term that was just put on other people who had committed a crime, ratting out someone else to get a lesser sentence. Now the idea that anybody who talks to police gets labeled a snitch. Thats a huge issue in so many different communities throughout the u. S. And certainly in this one. Appreciate the update. Well continue to follow it. Now lets take a look at the manhunt that Southern California authorities has citizens there on edge. The search for christopher dorner. That edge cuts any number of ways, the fear that the three killings hes already accused of may become many more. Also the knowing apprehension that his central grievance and charges of racism in the lapd may spark the kind of wildfire law enforce has seen all too often. Day five of the manhunt, and still snow sign of christopher dorner. Kind of scary because you dont know where he is, and we have friends who live all over the mountain. You know, theres concern about them. On Big Bear Mountain, about 100 miles east of los angeles, 30 officers are back at it. This time, expanding their hunt to more remote areas. While continuing their door to door searches of vacation homes. Authorities are hoping a 1 million reward offered for information leading to dorners capture and conviction will help. Though since it was announced, it has only led to more false sightings. This lowes store in northridge was evacuated sunday night after someone thought they spotted dorner. Were also learning more about dorners truck, which was recovered from Big Bear Mountain last week. Investigators say the axel on the truck was broken, which may be one reason why dorner lit it on fire. He may have had to quickly come up with a plan b. Investigators also now say that two ar15 rifles were found inside that burned out truck and some camping equipment nearby. Every day that dorner is loose, the likelihood of an attack on either a Uniformed Police officer or a family of a Police Officer is likely. Dorners revenge killings are in response to his termination. His threats also appear rooted in racism. The lapd now plans to look into dorners firing and his allegations. In his rambling online manifesto, dorner mentions the brutem Police Beating of rodney king back in 1991. A grup of officers was caught on video kicking and beating king. Their acquittals in the case led to a week of deadly race riots in l. A. Dorner writes that one of the officers kicking the king is now a captain with the lapd. Dorner asks, do you trust him to enforce Department Policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers . Dorners allegations are about a Police Department that doesnt treat africanamericans fairly. And i dont think thats true. And i want to make sure that we dont lose that precious ground that we have gained because of these allegations. And thats the totality of the reason that i will look at this investigation again. In his manifesto, dorner also writes about hearing white officers use the n word to describe black officers. When he told them to stop, he says, they refused. And he makes this threat. Those caucasians officers who join south bureau divisions with the sole intent to victim minorities who are uneducated and unaware of krijinal law, civil law, and civil rights, you are a high value target, adding, i am here to change and make policy, i am here to help and correct and calibrate your moral compasses to true north. This man is a law professor. He has written a report on abuses at the los angeles Police Department. Theres been trumemendous improvements in recent years. It would be naive to say racism is a thing of the past in any Police Department or any institution. Charges of racism within the lapd certainly arent new. Back in 1991, four months after the beating of rodney king, an independent Commission Found that minority officers are often targets of racial slurs, and the lapd tolerates racism among officers. The Commission Even called for the replacement of thenchief darryl gates. Former lapd chief bill bratton told the times, it would be a shame if he were able to rally to cause people who remember the bad old days of the lapd. Randi kaye joins me now. Randi, live at the Police Headquarters for the lapd. How much of a threat do authorities still think he is . We heard from the chief saying that every day hes not there, the threat increases. Is that generally the feeling . I think so, anderson. Certainly a great threat is what they believe. So much so that the daily schedule for the chief of police here at the lapd, charlie beck, that daily schedule is no longer being made public. It used to be given out to the media. We were able to know his whe whereabouts. This is also very telling. There are reports tonight that the lapd Police Captain, who oversaw the hearing that ended in dorners termination back in 2008, hasnt left his house, anderson, since this manhunt began. He has a wife and six children. Hasnt left his home. Now, thats important to note because one of dorners alleged victims was the daughter of the Police Officer who represented dorner at that same hearing. So if, if he is going after people and is going after people related to that hearing, then its pretty smart for that Police Captain to stay inside. I also should point out, there are 50 families under protection right now, anderson, related to this case around the l. A. Area. Appreciate the update. Joining me is john miller who wurned in counterterrorism for the lapd. Hes a correspondent for cbs this morning. What do you make of the fact nobody has heard from this guy in days now . Well, it could mean either one of two things. He may have gone up into that snowy mountain, and thats where san burnernardino is in charch the search. Did he go up there and freeze and die. Did he find his way to shelter and hide out . We wont know that until that search is completed, and they seem to be Going Forward with it. The flipside, did he find a way out . Either a compatriot or a vehicle. And he has gotten down the hill and probably did so immediately if thats is the case, and is back out stalking, as the chief indicated hes worried. Its not clear how much he was able to preposition things at all. We know he was able to plan enough that he sent out this manifesto and sent out things to news groups and also was able to stalk the relative or allegedly stalk the relative of the Police Officers he was involved with and kill her, according to authorities. But we dont know whether he was able to preposition any vehicle or anything like that. No, i mean, as you pointed out, we saw a lot of preoperational planning. We dont have much of a window into his longrange planning except some indicators of what was found in the truck, night vision goggles, cold weather gear, a caught, heaters. There is some indication when he was going up to big bear before the xal broke, that he had some kind of plan. Hes military trained, hes a military officer, and hes lapd trained. I know from that training, you go into these things saying i have a plan, i have a plan b, and i also have contingency plans for both assuming both will go wrong. Thats what we dont have a window into, what was his contingency plan. Are you surprised that the chief has now talked about reopening the original investigation into the original incidents that hes written about and that he ultimately got him kicked off the force . Im not on a number of levels. Number one, lets take what charlie beck, the chief said, at face value, which is the department is very much about transparen transparency, which has been a sea change for the lapd. When you read the manifesto by chris dorner, he said when i get justi justice, the killing will stop. What this is is the Police Department is saying, all right, if this is about honor, if this is about your word as a man, then let us test that. Lets say well reopen this investigation and look at your allegations. Does the killing stop . And are you going to come in and talk about this if in fact this is your main issue . It does seem like in the original incident, which is what sparks finally him getting kicked off, he claims a person an alleged suspect was kicked by his partner or the person he was with that day. Yes. Heclaim is the suspect who was already handcuffed, that he handcuffed, was kicked twice by his training officer, three times, twice in the chest and once in the face, leaving a visible injury. And what was determined was this person was schizophrenic, not a reliable wince. The father who heard from his son was deemed as heresy because he wasnt actually there, he didnt see it. What new can be learned . I think we have learned from cold cases involving everything from murder to an abuse case or a use of force case, that when you reopen them and take a second look, you never know what youre going to find. In this case, they interviewed the hotel clerk who looked out on it, the other Hotel Employee who was outside and watched it while having a smoke. They interviewed the harbor port Police Sergeant who arrived on backup, and they werent able to find anybody among those who witnessed the accident who were able to witness what he claimed. He would argue, how can you accuse me of false statements. Could be a he said she said. Are you surprised hes getting sympathy . Dorner, despite the allegations against him, there is i mean, i hear it on twitter. I hear from people a lot, and theres folks in california calling into radio stations saying i get the anger behind what hes doing. Not nis saeecessarily the metho using. I think today especially when youre talking about twitter, talk radio, and the net inter, anybody will pick from any argument, the sliver theyre interested, and promote their opinion. When you look at that against the backdrop of three murders and whether that makes it justified, youre in a whole other conversation. John, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Let us know what you think. Plenty to tweet about, including Pope Benedicts stunning decision to step down. Two longtime vatican watchers join us with details. And later, as terrifying a view as you ever want to see. Take a look at this video. Well take you where a string of tornado hit, show you the damage they did. And again, were expkting the Chicago Police to make a statement short ly in the case f two suspects in custody. Well be right back. 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In six centuries, not one leader has resigned. Since the year 1450, not one single pope has left the vatican without also leaving this world. That is until today. According to the new york times, this morning at the vatican, speaking in latin to a small gathering of cardinals, Pope Benedict xvi said hes too old and frail to continue leading the church. The spokesmann saying the pontif will step down effective the end of this month. That hasnt happened since henry viii was around. Calling it a surprise doesnt cut it. I was very startled, and i dont know what to say. I myself am waiting for information, for instructions, as to what we would do now as to follow the cardinal. As soon as i let out, ill let you know. Thats Timothy Dolan of new york, one of many potential successors. We have word tonight from news week, and also john allen, senior vatican respondent. This is an unprecedented move in modern history. Did anyone see this coming . No, i dont think anyone saw this coming. This really is a shocking monday morning news here in rome. The pope had an opportunity yesterday when he addressed his public in st. Peters square, but he chose monday morning to make this announcement. Its an exciting moment in rome when you have a transition to a pope without the sorrow of the funeral and death. The mood is quite spectacular here today. John, what do you think is the real reason hes stepping down . Well, anderson, i think its probably one of those cases where what you see is basically what you get. Benedict has said hes not suffering from any specific illness or health crisis, but he simply feels given his mounting age, were talking about a man who will be 86 in april, that he simply no longer has the force to meet the challenge of facing the church. At least in this regard, i think probably we ought to take him at his regard. John, you have covered the vatican for a long time. 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