Negotiating through back channels for their freedom. In exchange isis wants the release of a failed suicide bomber in jordanian custody a woman. All this raising serious questions about talking at all with a group that does not just take and kill hostages but also publicly revels in it. Chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto joins us with new information. Whats the latest on this ultimatum . What do we know . Reporter thats right, this was released on an isislinked twitter account which has previously released other hostage videos and audio recordings. This one a recording purputters to be the voice purports to be the voice of the surviving hostage, kenji goto. He presents an odd exchange really and ultimatum saying if by sunset tomorrow mosul time about 9 30 a. M. Eastern time tomorrow if the convicted terrorist held now jordan al rishawi, is not at the Turkish Border then the jordanian pile captured when his f16 went down last month over syria would be killed. Again, the jordanians saying theyre not interested in any ecochange until they have proof of exchange until they have proof of life of the pilot. For jordan, this would be a hard prisoner to give up. She is a convicted terrorist. She attempteded to take part in a suicide attack. And her vest simply didnt go off. Reporter exactly. I covered the bombings. Im sure you remember as well, in 2005. Devastating in amman, the capital of jordan. Dozens killed. This was an operation ordered by the thenleader of al qaeda in iraq, alnd reason she didnt kill anybody is because her suicide vest didnt go off. The ordane view is twofold, one, they look at it as a Prisoner Exchange. She is a prisoner, the pilot is a prisoner of isis. Two, because her vest did not go off, they say she does not have blood on her hands. They look at it differently. Though 57 people died in the attack. They did. 57 did. Devastating, a major attack. If this exchange goes off, it would be a propaganda victory for isis to get her released. No doubt about it. Sciutto, appreciate the update. Daniel oshea coordinated the u. S. Embassys Hostage Working Group in baghdad during the war. Also National Security analyst Fran Townsend george w. Bushs former adviser and serves on the cia and external advisory boards. Dan, as jim said obviously this would be a huge propaganda victory whether you know not only able to get this convicted terrorist out of jordan out of custody, but a huge propaganda victory to be seen, isis negotiating with a nation state. Exactly that point. Theyre going one step further to not only establishing the Islamic State ads ass the caliphate now recognize a western nation with japan in the mix. It has effects beyond just the prisoner swap. Does it surprise you how public this seems to be . I mean not on isis part but on jordans part . Absolutely. Ill be frank, this very woman of part of the ransom doemd one of the major demand on one of the major cases, one of the big kidnapping ring including the jill carroll kidnapping. This ring weve tracked and was ultimately dismantled after hard effort. They had this woman, this same woman, saija, offered as an exchange in one of the demands. We never let it out. It was not publicly released. Ten years later, theyre getting their wish. Its also drawing a linkage and connection between isis and back to the origin of the roots which is al qaeda. Fran for the u. S. Obviously which has been critical of making deals in the past hard to have a leg to stand on given the Prisoner Exchange they with bowe bergdahl. Thats right. Look i think the u. S. Is going to make the argument that this is what they was engage with the taliban to get one of their own back. Of course, if youre jordan, youre feeling the same way about the jordanian pilot. Once you engage with the swaps the u. S. With taliban or jordan with isis what it does is encourage these groups to grab other citizens not just japanese and jordanians in the case of isis. This is with these guys, they learn they can get media attention, they can get listened to and paid attention. Its a propaganda victory. That just the engagement in itself. And then the notion of actually a successful swap really embolden them. Does the change of a deadline make sense to you . Well its just part of the game. Theyre just ratcheting up the stakes here. And miss stwend2010 is 100 right miss townsend is 100 right. To get the woman back who is a heroine to the slamislamist cause, this will have that effect because she will be part of the propaganda effort in the future. That this was successful, and its going to be successful again in the future. So we can continue to see the slippery slope as were losing the moral high ground to stand by a position of no concessions because we no longer hold that position when it comes to hostages. And so how can we ask the rest of the International Community to do the same when were not holding to the same standard . Fran is there a difference with socalled prisoner eco exchanges . Is it any different than the European Countries which pay to get hostages released . Look, the engagement with them and the ceding to demand whether its money or people is the problemment and this woman in particular as dan is talking about, this woman is going to, if released to isis, is going to kill people. She her husband was a martyr. She was a widow. Her brother was of a direct lieutenant. This woman is determined. And you know people may recall the 2005 bombing. You mentioned the 57 killed. This was a wedding that she her cohorts went into and detonated themselves killing people in a hotel in amman. I worked these cases when i was at the white house. I mean she is a really really bad person. And she will kill she absolutely will kill. I remember being on the air covering this bombing in the hotel in amman. I mean fran the u. S. Said today that every country has the right and ability to make their own decisions. Been the scenes though do you think the u. S. Is trying to convince jordan not to go through with it . Jordan is a very public face of you know of part of the one of the few middle Eastern Countries which is actually now fighting in isis and sort of a chink in the armor if they now make a concession. No. Anderson, youre absolutely right. One would hope behind the scenes they are making the argument to not do this. Again, you pointed out the fact that the u. S. Engaged in the bergdahl swap with the taliban makes that a little bit difficult. The other piece to this we have to recognize, these sort of Prisoner Exchanges in this region are not that unusual. Remember, israel often will go through these large, massive negotiations and Prisoner Exchanges with hamas, for example. So within this region, this is not so unusual. Its just the notion of doing it with such a brutal group. And and by the way, with no proof of life, were going through this negotiation. We dont know that these hostages arent already dead. Thats the interesting thing, dan. Again, its so public and there hasnt been a proof of life. Again, they are violating that rule. You never make any negotiation in this process without the proof of life. I mean ive brought this up in the past. To launch a to do a hostage mission, you have to have proof of life to do anything in the steps. So again theyre holding the world hostage by doing this this release by the japanese terrorists who may be the only one alive at this point. You dont know. She may be released and we may not get the jordanian back in the first place. It has blown the whole behindthescenes negotiation of the world that was not so wide open, but weve kind of weve played our cards. Now were going to just see more of this in the future. Ive been predicting this since last spring with the bergdahl release. Its coming to fruition sadly. Dan, how would logistically Something Like this work . I mean they say bring her to the Turkish Border by you know a time tomorrow mosul time. Would then the idea being that she gets handed over and at some undetermined other time the other two hostages if both are in fact alive are handed over . Would it have to be you would think it would be simultaneous. Yeah. If rational rule and laws applied here but they really dont. So that remains to be seen. There may be the mexican standoff tomorrow when they let the girl go at the time and then theyre waiting for the jordanian pilot to walk across the border like the cold war swap between, you know Frances Powers and the swap we did back in the day. 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He won a new trial and was presented with by the terrifying choice to take the plea deal that would mark her as a felon or take the trial that could mark her with a 60year sentence for the rest of her life. She took the plea deal. Shes out of jail on a house arrest for another two years. Youll hear from her shortly. Her first interview since getting out. First, how we got here. Reporter this was Marissa Alexander in 2012. Shell just been found guilty of aggravated assault with a Deadly Weapon and would soon be sentenced to 20 years behind bars. This is my life im fighting for. This is my life. And its my life and its not entertainment. It is my life. Her legal trouble began in 2010. She says her abusive husband, rico gray, was in a jealous rage over Text Messages on her cell phone. Gray had been arrested in the past for assaulting her. Shed locked herself in the bathroom. He managed to get the door open. And thats when he he strangled me. He put his hands around my neck. Alexander got away and ran into the garage. But she says the garage door was stuck. She grabbed a gun, she says she kept there. She explained what happened next to gary tuchman. Reporter were you thinking you were about to shoot him . Yeah, i did, if it came to that. He saw my weapon at my side. And when he saw it he was even more upset. And thats when he threatened to kill me. Thats when she fired what she called a warning shot into the wall. I believe when he threatened to kill me thats what he was going to do. And it had i not discharged my weapon at that point, i would not be here. Rico gray fled the house with his two Young Children who were there at the time. Alexander was arrested but maintained shell been standing her ground. During a court depth, gray said this about the shooting incident if my kids western there, i knew i probably would have tried to take the gun from her. I probably would have put my hand on her. When asked what he meant about putting his hand on her he responded, probably hit her. I got five baby mamas, and i put my hands on every last one of them except for one. Later at a Court Hearing on her stand your Ground Defense gray changed his story, saying he lied repeated three protect his wife repeatedly to protect his wife claiming he did not threaten to kill her and said i begged and pleaded for my life when she had the gun. Alexander was offered three years in prison as a plea deal, but she refused. She went on trial and was convicted and sentenced to 20 years for three charges of aggravated assault with a Deadly Weapon. You do everything to get on the right side of the law. And theres a law, and it does not apply to you. Where do you go from there . A new legal team picked up alexanders case after her conviction. In 2013 fought and won her a new trial. The victory of shortlived was shortlivedflation. Florida state attorney angela corey said this time if alexander was found guilty theyd be seeking a extend of 60 years instead of the 20 a sentence of 60 years instead of the 20. She was offered another plea deal if she didnt go to trial. Three years behind bars and two years under house arrest. Just yesterday, she served her last day in prison. That concludes the hearing. [ applause ] with time already served Marissa Alexander was able to walk away but now begins her house arrest. Marissa alexander joins us now. First of all, mine how does it feel to be how does it feel to be out of prison finally . Relief. Absolute relief. Im excited, im happy, im grateful. Those are just many of the emotions that file. So thats how i feel to be out finally. You havent given an interview since 2012. At this point, what do you want people to know about what happened to you . I think that its just one of those things that its unfortunate, but i can see that im out now. Im looking forward to the future. I dont really look back to what has happened. It wasnt easy but im much stronger. I am in a better place than i was. Im just looking forward to moving forward. I want to ask you a little about your case. I mean, you tried repeatedly and failed to use stand your ground as a defense. At this point, do you still believe you were standing your ground . You still believe that . Knowing what i know now, i dont really feel any different about it. I guess really at the end of the day it doesnt matter. You know what i mean . I think that new im out, i cant go back and change what wasnt decided or has been decided. Im grateful im out now and can put that to bed. I know you were offered a threeyear plea deal before your original trial. You wanted to take your case to trial. Do you regret that decision at all . Thats a tough decision to make. Not it is. I mean going to trial is not easy. I dont regret it. You know, it wasnt it wasnt a decision that came lightly. But i believed in my innocence. Thats the reason i took it to trial. Not only that the three years, you know didnt want to take charges for the children. And didnt feel i just didnt want to do that. So that is the reason why the original plea i did not i did not accept it. When you heard, first of all, the sentence of 20 years, what goes through your mind in that case . You had just had a baby. You know you cant even digest Something Like that. I cant tell you that i did and when i did it was extremely difficult. I dont believe i ever really accepted that sentence. I believe i was going to fight. But its not something you can ever really digest. So what made you decide that second time at the time of the retrial to take the plea deal . Essentially it was the same one they offed you before. Three years offered you before. Three years in prison. What was the thought process on saying you know, im going to take this plea deal this time . Well for me it ultimately boiled down to i needed to guarantee my children that i would be home. And i mean that is the primary reason why i made that decision. You know, obviously some of your supporters people believe in you, believe that race that sexism played a role in your incarceration. Do you believe that . I could go into it, but it wouldnt do me any good right now. I can tell you that my primary focus, the energy and effort is moving forward and not spending a lot of time on the negative aspect of it. It can get really draining. I really look forward to the future about it. I just kind of dont spend nightmare that area. As mentioned, you spend time in that area. As mentioned, you gave birth to a baby girl before there ordeal started for you. Shes now 4 1 2. Yes. To be with her, what is that like . When i left rihanna, she was six months old. When i was able to connect with her again, she was 2 years old. That is the time when i was able to finally see her, sit her in my lap. Outside a glimpse of pictures of her, i didnt i didnt get to see her. To you can imagine just unbelievable joy to be able to see her. And then when i came home on bond to be able to connect and bond with her. And i mean were in love. So im grateful to be able to have you know the relationship that we have. She knows that im her mom and that im not going anywhere. Whats next for you . What do you hope t