Offended, people he belittled. In other words, welcome to monday. All of the above stands out from most mondays. This is the first one he is the republican nominee. Donald trump as we know is not most candidates. His general election pivot includes concerning financial experts, annoying tax cutting conservatives and talking about crooked hillary. We begin with jeff zeleny. Reporter Hillary Clinton isnt taking the bait. Shes married to a man the worst abuser in the history of politics. Shes married to a man who hurt many women, and hillary, if you look and study, hillary hurt many women. And hillary, if you look and study, hillary hurt many women, women that he abused. Reporter today in virginia, clinton says she isnt responding to that. I am answering on what i think voters care about. Youre responding with substance. I am running my campaign, i am not running against him. He is doing a fine job of doing that himself. I am running my campaign. What i want to do as president , what i stand for, what i always stood for. Reporter her battle with trump hardening in the fight for women voters. Theres still a challenge with equal pay for women which is real, not made up. Reporter trump defending his comments on cnns new day saying clinton played the woman card first. Shes playing the womans card to the hilt. Reporter women, always a pivotal vote, even more so this year. She leads trump 6135 nationally among women. According to the latest cnn orc poll. Clinton is taking her message to small groups of voters. Like this gathering today at a cafe in virginia. I am accused of playing the gender card and all of that, and the fact is that it is a real problem. Reporter she won the virginia primary two months ago. Hello, virginia. Reporter but shes back with the general election in mind. It is clear that there are so many challenges facing young families today that we have got to come to grips with. Reporter the path to the white house goes through suburbs like here in loudoun county. President obama carried it by 8 in 2008, three points four years later. In the 2014 mid term elections, a republican Barbara Comstock won the Congressional District by 17 points. Now shes torn saying i cant support Hillary Clinton and i wont be, but donald trump needs to earn the votes of me and many others. These swing voters here will be key to the fall election. Clinton is still trying to build excitement around her history making candidacy to be the first woman president , particularly wooing women, an effort mocked by saturday night live. President barbie, the first barbie commander in chief. Oh, neat. Dont you want to play with her . Jeff zeleny joins us. What is the campaign saying about why Hillary Clinton isnt responding directly to trumps allegations . Reporter quite simply, the campaign believes voters dont want to hear about it any more, that women voters didnt like it then, wouldnt like it now. They want to hear what she would do for them. We saw her talking child care, health care, education, other things. Trying to take the high road for now. They believe it will work in the long term. They believe they have a significant advantage among women voters and others. But theres that open question there, that donald trump is a unique candidate here. All of his attacks worked well in the primary, would they work now. For now, the Clinton Campaign believes, and secretary clinton believes, said i am not responding. Doesnt want to be drawn into this. Will bill clinton respond. He is out there campaigning all of the time. He is known to go off message. I will be watching that in coming days. At some point theyll be on stage debating each other. We will see how that goes. Donald trump says he doesnt have a problem with women voters. Does he . He does at the moment. Has a huge structural problem. If he doesnt improve it, cant win the white house in november. This is among women. Asked voters in a national poll, registered voters, women, 61 to 35 . 26 points. It is impossible, near impossible. I dont know how you get elected if this is the gender gap election day. President obama won in Electoral College landslide over mitt romney. You look at the number, donald trump needs to be in this territory or better than mitt romney. Cant be 26 points down with women and have a chance to win the general election. Can he get there, he has six months. As he tries to get there, this is a problem. Horse race numbers cant be changed. It is hard to change this when you have this number, 34 . Women registered voters, only 34 view him favorably. 64 unfavorable. He has a convention and six months to change it. Can it be done . Of course. Is he starting in a huge ditch, he is. Donald trump essentially says theres a lot of time. Hillary clinton has high unfavorables, it is much ado about nothing. Trump says i won the republican primary convincingly. This is no big deal. Thats a valid point. But i want to make this point. Republican primaries and demographics of primaries are different than general election. Republican primaries tend to be majority men. Women are a smaller slice of the electorate. These are states trump won and states trump says are in play in the general election. Nevada, virginia, michigan, florida, new york, pennsylvania. Only in florida in the exit polls were women majority of voters in primaries, in nevadas caucus. 48 of women, 47 , over 50 in florida. In the general election, we know from history it will be significantly different. Take a look. 53 of voters in 2012 in nevada on election day were women. 51 in michigan. 55 in florida. 55 in new york. Look at the difference between the republican primary and general election in new york, same in pennsylvania. Anderson, in November Donald trump will be competing in an electorate that nationally will be majority women. In key battleground states are majority women. 55, 55, 53, by a significant margin. You cant win the presidency with 26. Gender gap which is what he has. He has six months, theres no doubt at the moment he has a problem. John, make it back to the panel table. We begin discussion in the last hour, got heated. Joining us this hour, ana navarro, matt lewis and other panelists. Mary katherine, lets start with you. This feels like just the beginning of this kind of discussion. Well be hearing more about it. Does it help donald trump . It is just the beginning of the general election. I think whats important, we saw him flip numbers in a serious way during the gop primary, things people thought was unfavorable. He couldnt get above 35 . Had a ceiling. Cathedral ceiling. And they kept raising that. Whats interesting, the distinction john makes between primary and general, donald trump speaks about the general as if it will be the same as the primary, it is not the same electorate, doesnt respond to the same things. He changed rules but i dont think he can make them the same thing. Hillary clinton, the attack on her as enabler, do you think it plays well with republicans and independents . Plays amazingly well with republicans. We have seen republican candidate after republican candidate bend over backwards. Im a good guy, not a racist. They play the woman card. Mitt romney was destroyed. He is the most decent guy, destroyed by the woman thing. Republicans are like finally somebody going on the offensive and take the battle to hillary. Theres Something Else here. Part of it is psychological warfare, it is not the issue, it is what he did to ted cruz. He brings up the rafael cruz involved in assassination of jfk. Crazy issue, doesnt get any voters, but got him off message. And with hillary, see if she slips up. It sets a marker where it might go, a warning i guess trump used effectively when she brought up the notion of trump as sexist, he countered with his enabler. I think in trumps estimation stopped the clinton push on that. First, let me say i dont think it plays well with all republican women. Doesnt play well with this republican woman. I have a real issue with donald trump going there. We need to have this be issue oriented at some point in the campaign, needs to be debate about the issues. I have an issue i have to tell you with a guy like donald trump, is he the best messenger on a message like infidelity . I dont think so. Lets remember he had the enabler and the philanderer at his wedding and maxed out in Campaign Donations to the enabler and gave her Foundation Thousands of dollars. The entire attack is crazy from every angle, from the woman angle, political angle. Also about controlling the news cycle. We are talking about it now. He is doing what he has done. Can trump make the argument when back in 2008, we played that video, he said there was much ado about nothing. Already has, right . This is all everybody is talking about. And matt is absolutely correct. This unifies the party. This is not the best strategy. It does not unify the number. Look at the polling numbers. Ana, youre wrong. Thats because we are not unified. If you think the party is unified theres a difference between unifying and unification. I think that the vast majority of republicans will enjoy going on the offense. If hillary slips up, by the way, shes hypocritical on this, this shows her hypocrisy. You talked about it last segment, about the fact she was essentially trying to discredit women. Thats a vital issue. Thats legitimate. I want paul that argument is not up to donald trump. I want paul and others to respond. We have to take a quick break. We will have more on the discussion. Be right back. Allergies with nasal congestion . 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That may be, but that explains it is a tactic. He invited the clintons to his wedding, praised clinton after the affair became known, attacked impeachment. Trying to put one over, it will work on some people, they tend to be Republican Voters anyway. His deficit with women, married women went to mitt romney by seven points. Now going for hillary by 12. Trump has to makeup 19 points just to lose. Unmarried women went for president obama by 36 points, going for hillary by 52. He cant win unless he gets better with women. I dont think this will make him better with women, it will make him worse. To pauls point, if donald trump believes it so vehemently, why back in 2008 did he say basically the opposite and invite them to his wedding. A lot of things changed since then, one being linda trip came out and said i was down the who will from Hillary Clinton in the west wing, i heard her come up with lies to demonize the women. I think it will be effective with women, not only allegations with respect to clintons personal life but newsday reported on a rape case where she blamed the victim. 101, dealing with rape cases, dont blame the victim. Blamed a 12yearold girl, sixth grade girl of seeking attention of older men and fantasizing about being with older men. Theres audio. We havent corroborated any of this. I think you should be very it is widely reported. Widely reported, so is the national enquirer. Not on this network i would point out. Theres an audio tape where Hillary Clinton laughs about the defendant in the case and says look, he passed a polygraph and i forever lost my faith in polygrap polygraphs. My point is she demonized a rape victim, she laughs about it on video. You can look it up on youtube. She has a lot to do with her legal work demonizing Sexual Assault victims. Women wont like it. It will be in an ad and Hillar Clinton will suffer for that. Angela, do you believe this is something thats going to go as she says . No, i dont. I belie i believe i am flabbergasted about allegations. Shes right about the audio, it was broken more than a year ago from the clinton library, dug up by a reporter there. Theres actual evidence of her speaking about it. The breadth and depth of whats been said is not. What i am saying to you is i think we still need to be careful with our words. I think we can still run great election coverage, have a great debate on real, tangible issues. Unfortunately for trump supporters, it is hard. You dont know where he stands day to day. But is it a dupe for new generation women that werent paying attention or alive then or voting age, how do you think it plays . I dont think it plays well. Again, goes to the fact whether you have been cheated on or know someone cheated on, it is always wrong to blame someone who was a party of that and didnt participate in it. I think there are women everywhere that can appreciate that. Maybe they have parents divorced because a father cheated or mother cheated. It is ridiculous. Did donald trump have affairs . I am not up on his history. Did your candidate have affairs . I dont know personally if he did or didnt. Whats been reported . We do know that people he has been married three times, people love to bring it up over and over and over again, but i know that he has never demonized Sexual Assault victims. He did on a military base i brought up earlier. You brought up a tweet and took it out of context. He was saying when you bring men and women together, there are Sexual Assaults, and it is unfortunate and shouldnt happen. Is donald trump the right person to bring up, is he the right person to bring these up. If it was such a big deal, why was it not a big deal in 2008 . I think he is the right person to bring it up. If we really want the right person to bring it up, Juanita Broaddrick should be on the network, paula jones should be on. Bring on the victims. If you dont want to hear it from donald trump, bring on the victims, let them have their day in court here and now and address these issues. Let me tell you, much like the bill clinton case, the donald trump philandering, infidelity was also played out on national media. We all read about the fight between marla maples and ivana trump. I dont care about that. I want to know what they do for me today and tomorrow to make our lives better. You know, frankly it is disingenuous to be on national tv and say you dont know what his marital history was. Everybody knows. It is all over the press. You dont care about affairs, do you care about actions of Hillary Clinton with respect to victims . Not about bills actions, take bill out of this, do you care about her actions with respect to the victims. Do you care or not care. Let me tell you what i care about. I care about National Security and education and the economy. I care about jobs. If anybody is going to make charges against Hillary Clinton, it should be the women who had to deal with it. They have, and they have. It shouldnt be a man who we all know, including you, did cheat on his wife. They have made those accusations, they cant get national attention, cant get on television networks. They made accusations to places like the daily mail, the only people that would listen to them. I am surprised you dont care about these women. It is a huge issue. I didnt say i dont care about the women. I said i dont care about allegations that were litigated 20 years ago when it comes to trump and bill clinton, particularly since bill clinton is not on the ballot. Judge Hillary Clinton by her actions. Not his misdeeds. What we are saying is that hillary said some nasty things about some of the women. Such as . The looney toons remark. Do you think it is fair game to criticize her being unhappy her husband had an affair in a private phone call . She didnt say anything about her husband in that conversation. Yes, she did. Didnt make the story. This all started because