Reporter hes not quite seeking forgiveness but one of Donald Trumps top surrogates pastor mark burns apologized an interview on cnn after tweeting this cartoon of Hillary Clinton in blackface. An image thats offensive to africanamericans. Obviously my message i stand by. The myth doethodology, i do not. The message is simply this. I believe that the Democrat Party has been using the black vote, that black voting bloc. Never, ever will we allow her to step back into reporter a popular warmup act at trump rallies, burns preaches with a booming voice and a passion for ripping into Hillary Clinton. She dont belong in the white house. Im going to still say it. She belongs in jail. Reporter the pastor is just the latest prominent campaign voice to create a distraction for trump as he attempts to woo africanamerican voters. The Clinton Campaign accused burns of crossing the line. I think he surrenders the ability to discuss the issues. I think its unfortunate. Theres an unfortunate pattern here. Reporter other top surrogates and staffers from the Trump Campaign are coming under scrutiny as well. Buzzfeed discovered that audio of Trump Campaign ceo steve bannon using a derogatory term for lesbians on a conservative radio show. The women that would lead this country would be be profamily, would have husbands, they wouldnt be a bunch of the superpac unearthed this video of Campaign ManagerKellyanne Conway talking about women in the military, arguing that rape would not exist if women were as strong as men. If we were physiologically as strong as men, rape would not exist. You would be able to defend yourself and fight him off. Reporter the Trump Campaign claims it rejects extremist views like those of former kkk leader and Louisiana Senate candidate, david duke, who placed a robo call asking voters to back the gop nominee. Unless massive immigration is stopped now, well be outnumbered and outvote ed in o own nation. Reporter the Campaign Said in a statement theres no place for this in the Republican Party or our country. But democrats counter that trumps policies like his plan for a great wall on the southern border stir up racial tensions, even if one prominent conservative said hes not buying all of trumps promises on immigration. I can choose a path here to try to mollify you. I never took him seriously on this. Reporter trump will be walking a tightrope in his upcoming immigration speech tomorrow night. Any changes to trumps immigration plans could erode support he has in his conservative base. Later this weekend, hell be speaking before the Africanamerican Community in detroit where he will find out if theres any lasting damage from pastor burns and his tweet. We tried to reach out to the Trump Campaign to respond to bannon and conways comments in that piece you just saw but they did not respond. Anderson . Given what democrats see as racially charged controversy surrounding the Trump Campaign and given the candidate is now asking africanamericans for their vote directly, the question is how does the campaign reconcile the two, is the outreach sincere . I talked to donald trump jr. When we spoke earlier today. Your dads also this, i believe, saturday, going to go to an africanamerican church. Thats something a lot of africanamerican republicans who support your dad have wanted him to do for awhile and a lot of critics of his in the Africanamerican Community have said why hasnt he done that sooner . If hes supposedly making an outreach to africanamericans, why just do it in general rallies . Because i think unlike a lot of typical politicians my dads not a panderer. Hes spoken with these guys from the Africanamerican Community, big names, for the last 25 years, anderson. I went to dinners with most of the people. Now when you become a conservative, when you become a republican, when you run for office, all of a sudden those people forget all of those times, they forget all of those friendships and they run for cover because thats whats become, thats just the norm, i guess, unfortunately. Hes always had those relationships. Hes not just going to run around pander for votes. Hes had those friendships for years and he will do great things for those communities. Hes talking about all americans. All ethnicities, all backgrounds, even immigrants. Listen. Im the son of an immigrant. Hes the son of an immigrant. When you want to talk about israel he went to apac. He does talk to specific groups. I guess he has. He doesnt, again, run around pandering to all those things. Hes talking about bringing jobs back to our country. Thats number one. If we do that, we solve a lot of the inner city problems. If we bring jobs back, we take care of our education problems. We spend more money per capita on education than any country in the world. We are not even in the top 25. We are like number 29 or 30. Theres a long list of third world countries ahead of us in education that spend a fraction of what we do. If we educate our kids, think of what they can do. Think of the productivity they would create that would trickle down into the economy. Instead we have terrible education system. We have a terrible Corporate Tax structure forces our companies to send their technology, send their jobs abroad and overseas, makes it impossible to bring that money back into the country because of the tax structures that democratic policy have created. If we change some of those things, guess what, well have good jobs. Well get rid of the problems in the inner cities because those people will be working. They will be able to have a productive lifestyle. Theyll be able to take care of their children. Those children will be educated and able to do great things with their lives. Thats what my father wants. He wants the same opportunities i got, you got, because we were blessed with Great Fortune growing up. He wants that for everyone in america. Not just the elite. When you hear some of the way your dad is talking to africanamericans, im wondering if you have any concerns about it because, again, its something we do interviews with africanamerican voters all the time, republicans, democrats, independents and were hearing from a lot of them saying a lot of the people we talked to said, look, hes saying we all live in poverty, our schools are terrible, we are worried about getting shot on the street. When thats not the reality of life for the vast majority of africanamericans in this country. Obviously poverty levels are high. Its much more true than it should be. Thats happening a lot more than it should be. Of course its not happening to everybody. Nothing happens to everyone. The whole what do you have to lose, though, is that his point about that, look at democratic policy. So many people, we vote democrat, thats what we do. What have the policies done for those people in those neighborhoods . Crime is up, shootings up, unemployment up. Every statistic, every possible reasonable matrix you could measure in those communities in the inner cities about success, theyre a disaster under these leftwing policies. All of those cities are controlled by liberals and democrats and what have those policies accomplished other than making things worse . Other than creating more strife for the people in those communities. So what have you got to lose, maybe not the right way some people want to hear it but honestly, theres an element of truth to it. What could be worse than whats happened over the last eight years for those communities . Just crime is down and has been going down. Sndson obviously in some communities, chicago, worse in 20 years. Chicago is the prime example. Its the ultraliberal city in this country. Its the benchmark for liberal policies in this country. You cant say well, in one city, things are great. Take all of those places. The chicagos of the world. But it seems like you are taking one or two cities and nationwide actually crime is down. You can look at a lot of them. Nationwide, in other cities that dont have those same problems. Its, you cant look at it that way. I think in the big inner cities where you have these very loyal democratic voting blocs, they are vastly worse off than they have been in the past. Just as a point of reference, as bad as things are in chicago, murders are down substantially from the 1990s, los angeles even more and new york which of course has had democratic independent and republican mayors over the past two decades has seen its murder rate fall 82. 1 since 1993 according to nypd statistics which come out every week and are available online. That right there is a live shot of a trump rally close to starting in everett, washington. Well keep an eye on that as we welcome back our panel. As you listen to donald trump jr. Talk about his tads not pandering, not willing to pander to audiences, what goes through your mind . The one thing he is right about is his dad is not pandering to africanamerican voters. What hes doing is slandering africanamericans. Hes doing this in front of an all white audience and saying to them, hey, you know, africanamericans live in urban hell holes and thats what hes doing. By the way, as we all know, which is not true. So i am actually curious to see how this is going to go for him on saturday at this church that hes going to in detroit, because im curious to see, is he going to use the same message, is he going to say hey, you guys live in a war zone, so i think that thats whats happening. Its a slandering, not a pandering. Kelly, do you think hell use the same message . I do. I think thats a response emblematic of the problem with the Democratic Party. They are trying to marginalize Donald Trumps outreach rather than address his argument. His argument is if youre an africanamerican, youre six times more likely to be a victim of homicide. Thats data you can find in the bureau of crime statistics. If youre an africanamerican, youre going to make, your average wealth is 11,000. White person, 142,000. These are facts. Hard cold facts. He wants to remedy that. Hes the first republican candidate in the words of allen west to stand on this stage and say, i want to make this better for you. How am i going to do it . Im going to bring 2. 1 trillion back to this country, i will empower africanamerican franchise owners who are powerful businessowners in their communities. He has an argument. School choice. Rather than addressing the question, how are hillarys policies going to be different than barack obamas, you have not heard once the answer to that question. Theyre marginalizing his outreach. Is Hillary Clinton silent on this issue . Absolutely not. I think we can look at Hillary Clintons record when she wasnt running for office. Her consistent outreach to communities of color where they were talking about working with Marian Wright edelman with the childrens Legal Defense fund or registering black and brown voters in texas who were disenfranchised by republicans. I think across the board whether youre talking about what donald trump jr. Said on the interview when he mentioned what do we have to lose, and we couldnt be worse off, that is so tone deaf. It is so untrue. When i think about what happened in flint just over the course of the last year, there is a democratic mayor, a democratic mayor that was pleading with the governor to fix the lead in the water of these poor families. That is not a democratic policy. That is the gross negligence of a republican governor. Republican governors, they sit in 34 seats in this country. We have republicanrun state legislatures, house and senate all throughout the country. Scottie . How is Hillary Clinton going to help the 1. 3 million more africanamericans who are in poverty today than barack obama first came to office in 2009 . We dont hear specific policies. Let me answer it. Because i think please do. Thanks, scottie. Happy to. Good. So heres the challenge. These are not policies that came about under barack obama. Which you will never hear from the Trump Campaign, is an ability to address systemic oppression and racism. That is the root cause of these policies. It is a bipartisan problem, scottie. This isnt something that im laying at the feet of republicans and its not something that im just going to squarely lay at the feet of democrats. Racism is real in this country and it is a result of slavery, it is a result of the jim crow south, it is a result of segregationist policies. That is where we have to deal with. Until we can acknowledge that that in fact exists, we are going to continue to have these problems regardless of jour blaming unemployment because thats not what i just said. Youre blaming that on racism. You are still not telling me specific policies of Hillary Clinton is saying. Donald trump talks about school choice, education, letting parents decide what is best for their children. You are saying Hillary Clinton doesnt talk about education . You dont hear her bring it up. I dont have time to give you a state of the union address. Scottie, you are sitting in a chair as a panelist just like me. What i addressed i can give you specifics. You cant. Okay. If thats what you think, you are ridiculous. Go for it. Look, theres always this argument about why do africanamericans go with the Democratic Party. They go to the Democratic Party because they are actually a large constituency of the Democratic Party. They actually have leadership roles in the Democratic Party. The Republican Party doesnt do that. They dont talk about policies for the Africanamerican Community. Africanamericans are actually sophisticated, smart voters, just like white voters vote for their selfinterest, so does africanamericans. One more thing i just want to say. Look. We talk about the poverty rate. Under reagan the poverty rate skyrocketed. It went down with clinton. This is all proven. These are facts. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Then, again, wait, hold on one second. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. Let me finish my point. Then it went back up with bush. Then went down with obama. That is, those are the facts. It didnt go down with obama. Yes, it did. I was assigned day to day to cover Hillary Clintons campaign in 20072008 and we covered her pretty closely the last two years. I have probably been to about 20 predominantly africanamerican churches with her covering her there. Ive been in rooms where its just been maybe her and five or six other people on a panel, some of them africanamerican, some of them whites, some hispanic. I have seen her countless times sort of go into cities, into neighborhoods, walk around. Granted a lot of this is theater. A lot of it is stage managed but shes gone into communities and shes listened as much as sort of talked to them. Donald trump would be in a much Stronger Political position if over the last 14 months, he had made some kind of real effort to go out of his comfort zone, not to simply fly in a jet to a rally and then come back to new york every night, but to go and sort of show that he was going to parts of america that arent the limitations of the way he has been no, because patrick talks about Hillary Clinton going into these communities. Donald trump has actually brought the Africanamerican Community into his community. For instance, ill give you the example of jesse jackson. This is a quote from a great civil rights leader who said donald trump had the gusto for people on wall street to represent diversity. He gave my Rainbow Push Coalition a space at 40 wall street making a statement that our people and Africanamerican Community have a presence on wall street. He also brought africanamericans for the first time into maralago, was praised by the Antidefamation League saying he put the light on palm beach, not on the beauty and glitter i have to hes created jobs. Hillary clinton has not created private sector jobs. And hes certainly given money from his millions or billions or whatever it is. Lifting people up. The thing hes not doing, what candidates do when they run for president , is essentially they do a restart. They say i need to go and learn about the country, learn about whats happening in peoples lives now. Not simply sit in a boardroom and have a track record creating some jobs but going out into communities and hearing from them directly. Has hillary done that . Absolutely. There are other communities besides there are evangelicals. Right now Hillary Clinton is trailing at 17 with evangelicals. Has hillary reached out to evangelicals around the country . We need to correct the record just briefly. Jesse jackson wrote a scathing oped today about donald trump. Today. Yes. When theres politics involved. When theres actually you know what, he this is somebody hold on because you guys like to compare donald trump to Martin Luther king, this is someone who was alongside Martin Luther king the day he got shot. Its actually really important. You should read the oped before you talk about the policies of it. This is just about politics. No, it isnt just about politics. Discounted them. Because i dont know who they are. I cant hear anything. The same guy who is a spokesperson for sorry, no one can hear what you guys are saying when youre talking over sorry. Were going to focus next on immigrati