Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171006 : vimarsan

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171006

Good evening tonight. We have new information in the russia investigation involving the former british spy who wrote the now infamous dossier about russian efforts to help the Trump Campaign. Weve learned that that former spy has met with investigators from special counsel Robert Muellers team. We begin with the other investigation into the deadliest mass shooting in modern American History ongoing right now. Now, we still dont know why the shooter killed 58 people as if a question could ever have any real answer. But we are getting more information, including that he may been casing other locations. Our Senior National correspondent joins us now from las vegas with the latest. So what nfgts do you have about these other possible locations . Well, anderson we know that there were at least two. One here in las vegas, the other in chicago. We know that the shooter just under two weeks rented a room at the ogden hotel that over looks the life is beautiful festival. Thats a huge festival, much bigger than the route 91 Harvest Festival that the gunman eventually attacked. It had around 100,000 people attending it. It had huge acts like lord and chance the rapper. We know thankfully Nothing Happened over that weekend of september 22nd. We are also learning that someone by the same name as the shooter rented a hotel room overlooking chicagos grant park in august. The same time that the lollapalooza Music Festival was going on. We dont know if it was the same person. That person never showed up, but it certainly is chilling to think that the shooter might have been going around casing and scouting out all these different music venues. In terms of the investigation, has there been any more said about the note that appears in the photograph in the hotel room . Right. In that photograph very clearly there was a note that was left. The only thing that we know from the police yesterday, they havent even given a press Conference Today was that its not a suicide note. When the coroner was asked about it, the Coroners Office said they dont have any more information about how the shooter died. That as part of the ongoing investigation. We do know that the shooter died of a selfinflicted wound, but we are also being told by the police that the plan might not have been to initially commit suicide in that hotel room up there on the 32nd floor but rather to try to escape alive. The fbi has been pretty tight lipid about what they learned from interviewing the girlfriend. Have any new details come up. Very tight lipid. Theyre really not saying anything. We do know that marilou danley, the girlfriend of the shooter came back to the u. S. From the philippines. She is now in las vegas being questioned by the fbi. She told the fbi that she had been sent over seas by her boyfriend, the shooter, to visit her family, that he had sent her money to buy herself and her family a home in the philippines and she took that as an indication that he might be breaking up with her, but she denies knowing about this massacre. She said in a statement he never said anything to me or took any act that i was aware of that i understood in any way to be a warning that something horrible is going to happen. So a little indication right now, anderson, that were any closer to learning of the motive of the shooter. Appreciate that. Authorities have laid out a timeline for what happened on sunday night. Police first breached the gunmans suite an hour and 15 minutes after he started shooting. How his Vantage Point may have played into the way things happened. Brian todd tonight has more. The one thing Las Vegas Police say they are convinced of in this investigation is that the gunmans horrific attack on the route 91 country Music Festival was a very meticulously planned assault. The man who spent decades acquiring weapons and am mow and giving a secret life. That planning, experts say, began with a snipers nest he selected at the mandalay bay and the targets he chose below. Cnn got access to a room two floors up from the shooters with a similar view. From the room you can see the shooters broken hotel window, his line of sight to the concert venue. To me its very erie. John shee han is a retired Las Vegas Police sergeant. From this Vantage Point he says he has a clearer picture of the shooters tactics and his planning including choosing a high room at the end of a hallway. He requested an east facing room. He requested an east facing room because if we pan over, we look to the east of where his room is. Lets look. The tower is over there. There is the room that he shot from. And now we pan east and we look, and there is no way to get a counter sniper, a swat sniper up at a level position to be able to effectively take this man out. And firing from a room like the one were in, if you knock out this window and fire toward him, that doesnt work. We still wouldnt be able to see him more than likely because were not seeing deep enough into the room and only when he fires will we be able to see him. He insists the choice of the room put the swat team at a disadvantage and he blocked the stairwell door and wired the hallway with cameras so he could see police approaching. Because of his Counter Measures placed in the peephole and in the hallway, he observed the Security Guard and he was in fear that he was about to be breached. So he was doing Everything Possible to figure out how he could escape at that point. But shee han says if the shooter could have gotten away, is it wouldnt have been for very long. Theres one of three ways its going to end for an active shooter. Youre going to commit suicide, die in a hail of gunfire with the police. Youre going to shoot it out with them and youre going to be cared. Or youre going to continue on a preplanned rampage until the police finally stop you. So you dont believe escape meant escape for good, just to brian, how could it . Because he rented the room in his own name. Hes already on video coming in and out. We know who he is. Hes going to be the most wanted man in the world if he does try to leave here. Brian joins me now. What are the specific indications youre getting from Law Enforcement about why the shooter may have wanted to try to escape from the room . Reporter well, anderson, theyre giving indications regarding the material in the shooters car and that gives you a sense that he may have wanted to continue his rampage. Police say that he left 50 pounds of explosives and 1,600 rounds of ammunition in his vehicle. Now, that former Swat Team Member we spoke to says that tells him that this gunman likely intended to continue his rampage at her locations and maybe plan to be taken out by police at some later time. Appreciate it. Joining me now, what do you make of that note . The police are saying they dont believe its a suicide note. Well, they know what the because theyve read it. Look at a couple of characteristics here. One is how meticulous he was in his gambling habits. Weve seen his family talking about how he played the odds all the time in life. Someone who is fastidious about determining what the odds are in the slots. Same thing with the preparation for this event. Hes got the cameras in the hallway, variety of weapons. Hes got angles in the room that were preordained to ensure that he had the right access to the venue. This is a guy who goes from a to b to c and never skips a step. I think what is in that note is not a suicide note. Its something related to his Operational Plan to ensure he stayed on plan, including potentially maybe hes saying this is how i execute the operation and this is how i get out. This is a guy who steps through every piece of the plags, maybe writes it down to ensure he doesnt for get a step. Just the planning of this, this is not a guy who has extensive military training or anything. Phil during the break was saying hed like to see his google searches. You wonder how did he learn how to do all of this stuff. Id also like to see his library to see what books hes been reading because when you look at that position that he set up in that room, thats a shooting, a snipers post, and he stayed far enough back from the room, if you watch that video that weve all seen, you cannot see any muscle flashes coming out of that window which means that he was far enough back that the muzzle flashes cannot be seen. And thats what snierps do. Its not just that youre a good spot. Its where you pick a spot to shoot from so you cant be detected. The other scary thing is whats he doing with those explosives in his vehicle . Did he plan on shooting that . We dont exactly know where the vehicle was positioned, but i tacked to some people today that are explosives ordinates experts and they told me that just that 50 pounds of tannerite would have created a good size crater. Now, add that on and we havent heard how much of that amoney yum nitrate, that would have created quite an explosion in something that would have distracted everybody from what he was doing. The columbine killers had planned to have explosions going off as well as a distraction. San bernardino too all the pipe bombs they had. Chris, authorities have also said they believe the shooter intended to survive, doing everything he could to see how he could escape. Does that offer you any insight into this persons mindset or how does that exact the investigation . You know, i dont think he really had any plans on ultimately surviving. I agree with the other opinions that theres only three different ways these things end, either an immediate suicide, a suicide by cop or, you know, eventually its all going to come apart in some sort of hail of gunfire. I believe that this goes a lot deeper, though, than, you know, Current Events and planning. I mean, he was 13 years old when the texas tower sniper event happened. He would have been very impacted by that. I think hes got a longstanding history of fantasizing about this stuff, and i think it goes all the way back to august 1st of 1966, probably his first thoughts about it honestly. Which is really the only other time that Law Enforcement has had to deal with a i mean, kind of a sniper shooting down from this high Vantage Point, right. Exactly, yeah. I mean, you look at this, there are elements of this that were talking about and i think that texas tower commented is critical from an investigative comment. The key question of whether someone knows something thats materially relevant to the investigation the all the public commentary is how do we not know what motivated at him. Im looking at this. Someone participated in culture. He had a girlfriend of the he was in contact with family. He had a successful Business Life the over the course of months he acquires womens. He looks at separate targets. He looks at how to employ these kind of tactics to successfully kill this many people. The likelihood that one is spending that amount of time contacting that number of people with all the information we are seeing about everything from chicago to las vegas and nobody knows anything about motivation, im going to tell you one thing, anderson, fbi is already seeing information about motivation because of the variety of contacts he had overtime. Theyre just not talking to us about it. Youre saying theres no doubt somebody else had some sort of window spew or hints of what was happening. Thats right. I think the questions have been too quickly on the girlfriend, does she know something or is she complicit in the attack. Theres a middle ground. Over the course of six years did she say anything that gave an indication of mindset. Anybody thats involved with somebody for a long time she must know about grudges he held or opinions he held or fantasies he had or whatever. All of that. He purchased these firearms since october of last year. So i meechb, he was doing a lot of things in that time frame. He was buying amoney yum nitrate. He was getting tannerite. She had to know something. Do you agree with that, whether its the specific plot whether she knew that or not. After spending years with this person, oh, this person has a grudge against whatever it may be. Exactly. There will be grudges that she and other people will be aware of, things that he fantasized about, ideas that he was sympathetic to. Who he identified with, how he viewed his own father being on the run, for example. Theres going to be all these different pieces that are being put together by the fbi and other Law Enforcement agencies. Its just going to take them a little bit of time to assemble, you know, a variety of different information from different sources. But i agree. I believe that the motivation will become apparent and theyre work on the ground it and it will eventually come out. 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I want to play you what jordan said to me. I want the word out about my sister, her life and what happened as soon as possible, but i also dont want the media to be saturated with the shooters name. The more air time that his two seconds on television. I want the victims to be remembered rather than this coward. I think you raise such an important point. I really dont even want to use this guys name very much because i just dont think it should be known a month from law now, you know, a week from now or tomorrow. I think it should be forgotten. And since then weve had a policy of not naming the shooter since jordan opened my eyes to that idea. Her mom has become an activist in gun violence and meets with victims families. I spoke with her earlier. Cindy, the people youre talking to, the people who have lost lived ones, at this stage do they realize how their lives have forever changed now . Absolutely not. Theyre in shock. They dont understand how this could have happened, not only to them but how this could have happened where they were in the city they were in, the country that they live in. Theyre totally baffled and in total shock. I think one of the things thats so important about what you do not only as sort of, you know, as a voice from somebody who has experienced this firsthand with the murder of your daughter, of jessica, but to kind of give them a sense of what to expect, not just in the coming days but in the coming weeks and months and years, because its often i feel like adrenalin sort of gets people through the first couple of days, but once they go back home and their loved one is gone and, you know, their friends gradually go back to their lives and the world continues to spin forward, that theyre left with a completely different life. Totally different life. And youre right. They go home and kwiefb they lose friends. Some of us even lose family members that dont want to be close to us anymore because were totally new people. And that again, it confuses them. They dont know what to do. They dont know how to be with us. So we know that this is a family that these people have joined and they dont know it. Its a family of survivors across the nation that are always there for them. You know, i met your son jordan in the wake of aroara and it was really jordan who sort of opened my eyes to this notion of not naming the killers, not giving them the attention that so many of them want. And in fact, we should remember the names of your daughter, jessica gou we and the names of people whose lives were taken as opposed to the person who took those lives. Can you just explain to people why that is so important to you. Well, first of all, i remember the day of our shooting, and i remember turning on cnn and seeing the killers face and his name and the face and the name and the face and the name over and over and over again. And it was so traumatizing and revictimizing. So then we met with the fbi and the fbi told us about their program of dont name them. And in the meantime jordan had challenged you can you get through the interview without naming the killer or showing his face. And i think when the media understands that when you do keep reinforcing the name and the picture, that youre hurting anyone who is in that theater or as to this concert. Youre revictimizing those people. And youre also contributing to the con taj yon effect that the next mass killer is watching and learning. So were very proud of the no note

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