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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 February 27, 2018

He could take her to a hospital 30 miles away where Department Policy said he should take her or go closer. Follow the protocol or break protocol and go closer and risk her getting the wrong kind of care. In matties care he broke protocol and thankfully it went well. The bravery was precisely that. Has ever or would ever speak about it in those terms. In fact, speaking about tight day, lieutenant said merely we transferred her to a gurney and gave a report to the nurse, went back to work. Brave people rarely say i was brave or boast how brave they would be in a similar situation and suggest it would be easy. And bravery comes in many forms. The Common Thread involves making a choice. Or taking a stand and taking a risk. Today, speaking to the nations governors at the white house, about response to parkland, the president suggested he was taking a brave political stand against the National Rifle association. He is after all a republican president with a conservative base of supporters, so whatever you think of the nra or positions, going against them would be a risk for him. It would in political terms be an act of bravery. But keeping them honest, the president s words today come as he seems to have gone silent on something he talked about supporting just last week. Here its what he said today at a meeting of governors. Half of you are so afraid of the nra and there is nothing to be afraid of. If they are not with you, we have to fight them every once if a while, thats okay. They are doing what they think is right. I will tell you, they are doing what they think is right. And sometimes we have to be tough and we are going to have to fight them. You are afraid, he says, i am not. You are going to have to fight them, he says, like i am. The question is, is he . Here is what he said about raising the age of buying rifles. Including the one used to kill 17 people in parkland and nearly taking mattie willfords life. In addition to Everything Else and in addition to what we are going to do about background checks, we are going to go strong into age, age of purchase. And here is what he said on thursday. I mean, were talking about rules and regulations for purchasing. Talking about changing an age from 18 to 21. We are talking about common sense. And it is a great thing. And the nra will back it. I feel confident it will back it and so will congress and so will the senate. He said that even though the nra put out a statement saying they do not and will not back it. Last thursday night we raised the question of whether he would take them on or bend to their will. Since thursday he has gone silent about raising the age. Nothing on twitter. Nothing on camera. Including nothing to the governors. In fact we dont know the meeting took place until after the fact. It was kept off the schedule the white house puts out. Even as he goes silent on the thing he promised on wednesday to quote go strongly on, he is still pushing what seems to be his and the nras preferred response Arming Teachers. Not all teachers, he says, just some. I want highly trained people who have a talent. Like hitting a baseball. Hitting a grovel ball. Or putting. How come some people always make the 4 footer and some people under pressure cant take their club back. Some people cant take their club back. You can take issue with how the president put it, however he phrased, it sounds like he is done listening on that subject. A subject the nra is backing, eev when he is telling governors dont be afraid of the nra. In other words, be brave like me or just like i would have been unlike the Broward County deputy outside Stoneman Douglas that terrible day. You dont know until you are tested. But i really believe i would run in even if i didnt have a weapon. And most of the people in this room would have done that too. I know most of you. But the way they performed was really a disgrace. Brave. Now we get to new reporting that the president does appear to be moving away. Jim acosta joins us with that. What have you learned, jim . Reporter yeah, andersen, talking to sources tonight close to the discussion about gun control issues here and on the hill, the president appears to be backing away from this idea that you mentioned just a few moments ago that he supported last week that the age limit should be raised to 21 for purchasing assault weapons. The president tweeted about it, and you notice on friday in a cpac speech. And that lead to questions about this issue. The White House Press secretary said he supports the idea as a concept and tonight we are hearing from sources that he appears to be backing away from that. The president said he is willing to fight the nra on some issues and apparently that is not one of them. If a soldier can carry an Assault Rifle on the battlefield, why cant that soldier also defend his family in his home with an Assault Rifle, that is a key talking point of the National Rifle association. It appears the direct, the president is heading in tonight. Soldiers are able to use handguns. An 18yearold cannot buy. You have to be 21. Reporter i am not rationalizing. I am saying this what this source is saying. But it is clear that the president had this meeting with the National Rifle association over the weekend. They had lunch at the white house on sunday and ever since the president started talking about this idea late last week, there was concern in the gun Rights Community that the president is going soft on this issue. That is why i think you heard the president say he is going to do away with bump stocks. That is something he feels on safe ground on. When it comes to the issue of raising the age for purchasing assault weapons. Not to mention a lot of conservative lawmakers on the hill. You asked Sarah Sanders about the president s comments what was her response. Reporter that he would have rushed in and tried to save the students and here is what she had to say. I think he was stating that as a leader, you would have stepped in and hopefully been able to help as a number of the individuals that were in the schools, the coach and other adults and even a lot of the students stepped up and helped protect other students. I think the point he was making is that he would have wanted to play a role on that as well. Is he trained in firing a weapon . Is he trained in using a hand gun or firearm at some point. I dont think that was the point he was making. He was saying he would be a leader and would want to take a courageous action and a lot of individuals that helped protect others that day werent carrying firearms which shows that you can be helpful in that process without it. Reporter and we should point out that she never asked the question whether the president is trained to use a firearm. Our sources are telling us ton the that the president and this white house are committed to doing something on this issue and we should see some movements toward strengthening the background system. I talked to a source on capitol hill this evening who said they feel that is something that can get done and one idea that was floated which i thought was interesting is there is some talk among lawmakers that they might give tax credits away to retired military and Law Enforcement officers to provide security in schools. That obviously will not be enough for those students. Action of congress or lack of it. Phil mattingly has that side of the story. Does it feel like there is a change. Reporter talking to lawmakers and congress members, people are all over the map right now. That is not necessarily a great recipe for result. Just take the issues right now that are right there. Already democrats that have introduced assault weapons ban, that doesnt have the votes to go forward. That doesnt have the votes. The idea for raising the age for purchase for long guns that doesnt have the votes to move forward. It is a background checks bill known as a fix nix bill. What it does is intensifies democrats said they werent for that either. They want a fuller debate. A wider debate and more expanse sifsive debate. I talked to one aide and he told me people think this time is different. The reality is when it comes to guns it is not. This bill on background checks, does it seem it would have enough support to pass . It definitely has enough property to pass the senate. Just a matter of getting through the logistical hurdles. Does it have support to pass the house. The house has passed this bill but paired it with for if you have a permit to carry, in a state, you would take that over state lines to another state that allows concealed carry. Democrats in the senate, that is a nonstarter. For democrats in the house, that is a nonstarter. So as long as that still has to be paired with even the small bore fix nix background bill, there are problems there. It has put a point on this. Speaking to a democratic snore who is very strong on the gun rights issue very strong on trying to push forward some type of gun restrictions and i asked him plainly, do you think anything is going to happen right now. He looked at me and shook his head. He said no. He understands where things are right now and not a lot of optimism. That anything is going to come out of this. Even that smaller background bill, andersen. Thanks very much. The question of regulating firearms, Arming Teachers and what if anything can pass the congress. Which seems to be the one question that comes up after every such tragedy. Joining us now is Florida Republican congressman. Congressman, thanks for being with us. What do you make of this news that the president appears to be backing away from raising the age limit to buy any gun to 21 . I dont think he should be backing away from this issue. He needs to be leading on the issue. He needs to show the American People that he is not going to be beholden to anybody and lead members of congress. Show the American People who they all hate about washington, d. C. Thinking that people are purchased by different lobbies. That we are not. Lead the American People to that conclusion. She them. The president told them that the nra is on their side. And do you think that is true. We find ourselves at odds on a number of issues. But they represent people that need to have their opinion heard as well. The lawabiding citizen that has the opportunity to hunt, they have to be represented as well and that is their piece of this. I understand you changed your mind on assault type weapons. What led that to that change. And what do you say to your fellow republicans who may be wary. The short piece of it is i was looking to my children in a pool playing. As i was concealing and carrying myself. We could have been sitting ducks and thinking about that in the wake of just happened in parkland to people some of whom i know saying i have to do everything i can to protect life. That is what made everything unregretable in the military. I was trying to protect the lives of others. We cant worry about being political casualties. Can you say what you would like to tell him . I want to say to the president take your plan for having a ban on people coming into our country from various, what we would consider terror related country. Take that travel ban and apply the same model to this situation. Who is purchasing these firearms to make sure that the next omar martin or nikolaus cruz. And lets come back to the people after the pause of selling these assault tactical style weapons and come to them with real solutions. Lawmakers are across the board on this. Nobody knows if they can get on board with the age or background check or with this. I would ask the president , mr. President , lead on this in the same way you led with the travel ban to protect communities, to protect your nation. Apply the same standard to this situation and lets act immediately. I am wondering what the conversation is to your fellow republicans what are you hearing about a desire to change, fear of change. What are you hearing from them . I have had a great number of my colleagues coming up to me, whispering in my ear, it is a great piece. What are your reactions back home. How do they feel about your proposals. A lot of questions about the reaction i was getting from my constituency. Thanks very much. 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Sources telling cnn she is scheduled to go before the House Intelligence Committee tomorrow. Her testimony was delayed. Questions about whether she could discuss transition and her time at the white house. Joining me now is jim sciutto. She is a key witness. With the president during the campaign. And able to in theory answer questions on a whole host of aspects of Robert Mueller and the House Intelligence Committees investigation. The key question is what questions is she going to be willing to answer tomorrow because that point, that issue that you raised still has not been settled. It is not clear. We spoke to the ranking democrat on the House Intelligence Committee today adam schiff and he isnt certain she is going to answer questions. Steve bannon refused to answer many questions citing in effect white house claim of executive privilege of giving leeway from answering questions about that. So we dont know what will happen tomorrow. Will she go there, will she answer most questions or refuse. The Intelligence Committee is still intending to issue a contempt order for steve bannon for refusing to answer questions you can imagine they do the same to hope if she does as well. The two essential claims of the republican memo known as the nunes memo is one the fbis investigation was based entirely on this steele dossier. On that issue, the democratic memo attempts to rebut it by noting the time line. The fbi opened its counterintelligence investigation seven weeks before the fbi team got access to that steele dossier. So it is a credible rebuttal on that point. The other key point of the republican memo was that when the fbi was seeking a memo to surveil, that it did not reveal to the court that the dossier had democratic money backing it. The democratic memo says that is not true. Look at the warrant. In fact they made the court aware that the dossier had partisan backing. If you talk to republicans they will say not all the details are in there. But taken together it certainly raises questions about the central claims. Appreciate the update. Congressman jim himes i spoke to him. Do you expect her to invoke executive privilege in the same way that steve bannon did . Well it is a mystery because different people who have worked for the white house has approached this differently. Steve bannon invoked executive privilege in a broad way including going back to the transition. Other people who worked in the white house went before the committee and did not. We will see what happens tomorrow morning. Hope hicks has been at the epicenter, are there particularly areas of questioning that you hope to be able to ask her . Those of us who have watched this white house for a long time know shes is one of the president s most closest advisers. So i think i talked to her about in particular of course is the question of the drafting of the statement that don junior, the president s son gave which turned out not to be true about the meeting in trump tower with the russians when he was expecting to receive compromising information on hillary clinton. Whether there was any attempt there to deceive the public about what that meeting was to have been about. I want to ask you about the democratic response memo which was released over the weekend. Devin nunes says it bolsters his argument saying democrats are advocating that it is okay for the fbi to use political dirt and use it towards the other campaign. How do you respond to that . The chairman is wrong about that. The premise of the republican memo was that the steele dossier was essential. That it was the basis, not just as the fisa application made around carter paige but associated with the investigation. And we know that is not true and further know that the dossier, which again, he can call it political dirt, that doesnt mean whatever in that dossier is true or untrue. They use the word unverified. That just means we dont know. But what we know today is that the idea that that dossier was critical to getting a warrant on carter paige and it was after. J

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