I have not read the Mueller Report. I havent seen the Mueller Report. As far as im concerned, i dont care about the Mueller Report. I have been totally exonerated. No collusion, no obstruction. And im off to dealing with china, im off to dealing with north korea and venezuela and all the problems in this world. Im not worried about something that never, ever should have taken place. Total exoneration, he says, whether thats true or not, we dont know. We could know thursday when the redacted report arrives, whether it represents the full document and well get into that tonight as well a recent episode from 1999 from attorney general barr raises questions on what we may see on thursday, despite having never seen it, then why the concern . Why is he lashing out on the camera and online and telling cnn and people that corporate are worried that, im worried now, hes going to go bonkers, consider that White House Counsel Don Mcgahn gave 30 hours of conversations and he might have factored in the decision or lack of one on obstruction of justice. The president has his own way about telling the truth to potentially criminal law enforcement. Its called flipping. It almost ought to be legal. I know about flipping for 30, 40 years, i have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful, then they get ten years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go. He said that about Michael Cohen. He praised his former Campaign Chairman for failing to break. Its unreasonable to believe, the president might go bloncers about what some of his people might have said to mueller. Maybe itsing in uncriminal nateing. Maybe embarrassing. Former people were under pressure to sell books, not under penalty of perjury. What is it dirty deeds . Gracious exoneration and happy with everyone for doing their civic duty and fulfilling their public they serve by telling the whole truth. Given the tweets and the sound bytes with damaging news, its not sure if it will be one of his significant stories so far. We are waiting for an impact. What are you learning, kaylin . Reporter interesting. We know President Trump is eager for the report to come out on 31st. He thinks it will back up his claims that he is exonerated. Even though they have not read it. They dont know whats going to be in the report. They think at best it will paint an unflattering portrayal during this investigation. Is there any expectation among white house aides so what will or wont be specifically in the report . They do know think it will contain bomb shells. They know where it came down on occlusion or obstruction. Theyre worried about the details. The people inside the white house that used to be in the white house, and the president s allies all know that so many of them have sat down with the special counsel for dozens of hours. They will be able to back this up what the claims are with statements from them. With dates, emails, all of these documents to support whats in this report. So theyre worried the details will be the damaging aspect. Not that there will be bomb shells but an unflattering portrayal. We dont know the detail in the rorg nal report in terms of what people around the president have actually said. How much would be in a finished report. No they dont know that. The white house maintained publicly they and President Trump still have not read this, dont know what the redactions will be, they dont know that the testimony, currently white house officials and the president have told the special counsel, things that could relate to the president s temper or the way he operates inside the west wing. Things that may not be a big deal or criminal or anything like that. It could be embarrassing for this president. They know how he is and reacts to coverage. While he is not expected to read this report pagebypage, allies fear he will act accordingly and grow anger at them based on what they told the special counsel, you have to keep in mind, some sat down for over 12 hours. You heard he is not expected to read them. According to reporting, hes not a big reader. If you would think maybe this would be something that would interest him closely. No . Yeah, but people close to the president have known hes not a big reader. Theyre not expecting him to do through this linebyline, instead his legal team will do it and they will brief him on it. What we are learning is most white house Officials Say they want to read this report. Anderson, they said they might wait until they leave the white house to actually read it. Lets get perspective from two insiders. Clinton Senior Adviser also with us, former Trump Campaign aide michael kaput to. He testified. Paul, obviously, we have no idea what the people said to mueller, whether there is anything that should be of concern to the president. Should the people around mueller be concerned . Its a world turned upsidedown. They seem to be concerned about telling the truth. We know that Paul Manafort lied and Michael Cohen lied and George Papadopoulos lied. The rest august to be given the benefit of the doubt. They seem to be worried about the fact that they told the truth. This is holy week. Christ, you should know the truth. The truth shall set you free. This president the truth should scare the pants off them. Its topsy turvy. You know there are flashes of anger, just because someone tells the truth, it doesnt mean the boss is going to like it. In fact in that case, everyone that testified told the truth. Even ken starr didnt charge one person around bill clinton with lying about that vogs or that affair. In fact, after the report came out, you know what happens . Bill clinton apologized to me and to joe, because he had, in fact, lied about having that that affair. Thats how the truth works. This president has to apologize to this team for putting them in this awful spot instead of the team worrying a they will tell the truth. Everyone was bracing for the starr report years ago. Is there some anxiety concern similar to what you experienced while waiting . Ball will remember, we were on the same side of this fight. We were fighting with the lawyers because they didnt want to put out a redid you tellal of the report and they made a valid point, which is, we dont want to be charged with reports that we have been charged with. At the end of the day they realized they needed to look at something that looked at the exculpatory that hadnt been leaked. These guys are in a tough spot. I liken this to president bush mission accomplished. Theyve set the bar so high at total exoneration on both obstruction and collusion and i think what we are going to see is a lot of black redactions, in between, we will see a lot of where there was improbable contact with the russians and lots of things that we already noye know about obstetricsr instruction and a few more. I think don mcgahn feels like the new white House Counsel, thats what i think theyre worried about. Michael, you were interviewed by the special counsels team, you described it as a less than pleasant experience. First of all, are you concerned about anything you may have said or should folks in the white house be concerned about a Mueller Report of what they said . First of all, i want to congratulation joe lockhart, saying he is going to read the Mueller Report signature on a lawn chair at the end of ken starrs driveway, i thought that was invebl credible. At the same time, all those folks that testified, a lot of them actually are concerned i ploo everybody that they may have said something inadvertently as well. As you guys know, thats entirely possible. I think theyre concerned about the ire of the president and his supporters. Of course, but i mean, more important, not more importantly, also importantly, i think they will become very famous people in america very quickly. Theyve all kept their heads down, the former and white house staffers. Now they will be in front of the stage. That will be uncomfortable. Like, for example, they will start getting death threats. Ive gotten 59 of them. I had two people criminally charged in the last ten days. They will be right in the middle of a jackpot they were trying to avoid for a long time. In the end, i think this is about impeachment or taken, there will be no collusion coming out of this report. There will be enough of a path leaving the bread crums towards ob trucks based impeachment. I think its about impeople or marching twoirtd and certainly a dozen hearings on the matter of obstruction. So those folks can count on a lot of legal fees. They will be in front of Congress Several times. Paul, i saw you nodding your head, i wonder if its fair a testimony to mueller it might end up in this report, should they have any expectation of privacy . No, michael makes a good point. Were on the opposite side of the political aisle. I feel peoples lives will be upended by this. What a world we live in. You know who didnt testify to mueller . Donald trump. Because according to his lawyer, john dowd, the president s lawyer told woodward, if he testifies he will be wearing an orange jump suit because he said he is a bleeping liar, michael didnt have that option. Heels not above the law. This president is going to perhaps slip thes into because he avoided testifying when every other normal american had to. Joe, there may be some fine embarrassing details about the president in the report. But to michaels point, nancy pelosi says thats not a road she would go down or pass the senate at all. So, therefore, what point is it . I dont think she wants to do impeachment. We may get to the report this is so redactive and what the attorney general has interpreted or established or many established that that picture. The only way to get this grand jury testimony. The underlying the meat of the case is to go to court. If gong Congress Goes to court. They have to have an ongoing legal concern and impeachment could do that. That could bring the spectre is that wise for democrats . Its politically ricky for democrats. At the end of the day, democrats are going to have to decide, are we going to let them bury this report or take the necessary steps to expose the report. Well have to see. Paul, from a political stand point. What do you make of joes scenario there . Legally they may have to. Crazy me, im going to wait until we reach the report until i dauda conclusions. Right now, i dont support impeachment. If you want to discredit trump im, the way to do it is in the election. Democrats august to do it in the election than through impeachment. That may change if it brings impeachable conduct. I dont is right. It may be if mr. Barr whitewashes this so much they may use that as a lever to get the facts before congress. Michael, im sorry for the threats you have been receiving. On thursday, that was a lot. On thursday the script is going to flip from collusion to ob struvenlgs i think we all know that. We appreciate you being with us. Thank you very much. Up next, what a democratic law maker has to say about reporting and what his colleagues are about to get. Saving grace, managing to recover, its extraordinary, what they have managed to preserve from the notre dame fire. Frances president has given a time line. Well have all the details tonight on 360. Nondrowsy claritin. 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Could he have been given a head up on the content of the report or do you think hes covering his bases . Well, i think hes concerned. The white house did not calculate their white House Counsel testified to mueller. I think hes concerned about the obstruction of justice issues and what the white House Counsel would have told mueller. They might be worried, the report might have made him angry at them, should everyone that talked to mueller should assume one day who what they say would become public . I think in an investigation like this. If you work for the white House Counsel, you should assume this will become public. Especially as muellers report was going to go to congress. What is surprising to me is the president nor anyone on his team actually talked to the white House Counsel or some of the aides to see what they told mueller. This is why theyre concerned. Theyre worried about what might have been shared. There are four categories that barr has said he will use in terms of what to redact. One of them is about third parties and its not clear exactly what he means by that, he said it doesnt apply to the president. Do you think it possibly applies to members of the president s staff . Well, it shouldnt. And barr has not been transparent in this process. Ordinarily, an attorney general sits down and comes to an agreement about what should be redacted and he hasnt followed any of that. What we need to do is see the report, what the redactions are, see if they are fair and push to see more if he has not been transparent. How long, i mean, if there are a lot of redactions that democrats feel are improbably, how long a battle . I mean, that could very easily become a legal battle that could drag on for in the past in somewhat similar circumstances, strike down for years . It could. I dont think thats good for the country or the president. Even if theyre embarrassing details in the report. The president should be for getting it all out there and moving on, lets get the facts out there so we can focus on issues that people care about and the other thing is barr would at least show the report to nadler, the chair of the judiciary and minority leader. I think we should be able at the very least in private share the report with the key leadership and committee chairs. Why is this so important . You can look at this and say Speaker Pelosi has passed and the senate and counsel ruled out criminal proceedings, so regardless of what the report says, whats going to come of it . Well, its parent because the American People should know whether there was misconduct. The president or its subordinates cite i violated the law or engaged in behavior that is inappropriate. That has an implication for democracy. Maybe we need to strengthen the laws and rules to prohibit it. Its important to understand that we havent seen a single sentence of the Mueller Report and bill barr has characterized this as exonerating, but bob mueller never has, in fact, numbers of muellers team have leaked information saying that the report, particularly on obstruction of justice could be much more damaging than barr is saying. So the public should just know what they paid for, which is what did mueller find . Congressman, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you, anderson. Up next, more on what its like for a white house under fire. Two men that worked for five president s between them. How they think the president s team is preparing. Its not small. But its not just big either. Its the kind of big where youll never have to ask, should i scooch up . Its big that looks at a sunroof and wonders why it cant just be most of the roof. Its big thats better because we built it that way. The spacious, 121 cubic feet of cargo space ford expedition. 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