Talking to fox business. When she says she wants to election overturned, i think what she means is that she wants to election overturned. Shes talking about negating the will of the people in states where they chose president elect biden but whose legislatures happen to be republican controlled. So far, for all the hair dye running down Rudy Giulianis face, for every sex show presser, every courtroom presentation, this is serious. When klahns are pouring gasoline over the process you stop noticing t noticing the grease paint or hair dye. The president first demanding the vote count stop in some states and continue in others, depending on how ahead he was at the moment, that failed. Georgia certified the results, cementing joe bidens win there. Fa phase two has been legal challenges, all of which failed failed miserably orbing failed miserably and comically. Did you all watch my cousin vinny . Its bun of my favorite law movies because hes from brooklyn. Now that hes got that off his chest and judges have gotten sick of his theres phase three, reaching tout to legislatures in states that went to joe biden so they can name their electors there by throwing it to President Trump. And by the way, overriding the will of the voters. Today, michigan lawmakers flew to washington to meet with him. When asked why the leader of the free world would want to meet the two at this particular moment, the White House Press secretary who also works for the campaign gave an answer fishy enough for friday dinner. What is the president planning to discuss this afternoon with the two michigan lawmakers . And will he ask them to have the state legislature appoint electors who will his reelection . Hell be meeting later on. This is not an advocacy meeting. He routinely meets with lawmakers all across the country. You cant always believe Kayleigh Mcenany whose very first promise on the job was to never tell a lie, which she broke that same day, or you can believe the president s lawyer who a just heard laying out the plan, the plan to overturn the election. Religion reasonabudy giuliani w meeting. Hes in isolation after his son, who works at the white house was infected with covid. And breaking news don junior has it, too. Another outbreak in the president s circle which is hardly news anymore. We do wish them all well. Rudy as colleague jenna ellis was absent. Its not clear any member of the team was there perhaps because they realized whatever transpired could be illegal. Heres what michigans house and Senate Leader said after the fact in a statement. We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in michigan and as legislative leaders we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding michigans electors just as we have said throughout this election. The statement concludes with this and the candidates who win the most votes win elections and michigans electoral votes. These are Simple Truths that should provide confidence in our elections. So, the president s plan is not working. At least not yet. But the fact that he is explicitly trying again, its historically alarming and not done. Cnn has also learned that hes considering reaching out to republican lawmakers in pennsylvania as well. And as you know, hes gone so far as to make phone calls to county Election Officials in the detroit area who subsequently tried to rescind their certification of the vote. So hes trying. And with a few exceptions, most notably mitt romney and to a much lesser extent lamar alexander, the republicans on capitol hill seem content to let him continue. The president himself spoke out today in what he billed as a press conference yet he took no questions. He di however call himself the winner of the election, a savior on vaccines and a winner in general. Big pharma ran millions of dollars in advertisements against me during the campaign. Which ien who, by the way. But well find out. 74 million votes. You wouldnt have a vaccine if it werent for me for another four years because fda would have never been able to do what they did, what i forced them to do. And pfizer and others even decided to not assess the results of their vaccine, in other words, not come out with a vaccine, until just after the election. That, by the way, is simply a lie. Vaccine timetable was driven by the numbers. Oddly enough, so was the election. Cnns Kaitlan Collins joins us now from the white house. The president s meeting with these michigan lawmakers, the idea of which is wildly inappropriate. Do we know what came out of it . Reporter clearly not what the president wanted judging by the statement because theyre sending a pretty clear signal theyre not going to change anything, theyre not going the break from the norm and theyre not acknowledging joe bidens win, but theyre going far enough to say theyre not doing what the president and sidney powell, his attorney, us a played that sound, hoped they would do. It was clearly a political movie for the president to invite them here. He doesnt often meet with state lawmakers despite what the press secretary said earlier. This meeting was not included on his official schedule. We only found out about it because of reporting we did in michigan to know they had been invited. The question really is, what do next step was the president make . Does he invite the lawmakers from pennsylvania to come here . A similar fashion to this . The president is at the end of the road running out of options for what he could do. It went from waiting for the votes to be counted. We saw what happened there. Then it went as lawsuits were pursuing. Over two dozen have been lost or withdrawn by the president and his allies. This was kind of his lastditch effort to use his political muscle on these republicans who we should note, of course dont want to anger the president , but notably in this statement theyre not endorsing the president s claims about widespread fraud. Theyre not, not at all. The president didnt take any questions at what he said would be a News Conference. Kayleigh mcenany hardly took questions at her briefing. Reporter yeah, this has been this broader pattern since the election. Members of the federal government dont want to take questions from reporters. The president , surprising for him to go 17 days, which is what hes done, without taking questions from reporters. The press secretary came out, it was her first Briefing Since october 1st. Today she only took a handful of questions. Theres not. That in the room because of social distancing, so at the end i asked her why she couldnt call on anyone in the room, and this is how that went. Thank you, everyone, for the very good and substantive questions today. I dont call on activists. Im not an activist and you havent taken any questions since october 1st and you took about five cay leag. Thats not doing your job. Reporter that gives you an indication of where youre at. Also thames us how good you are at your job, kaitlan, which frankly everyone knows. We also learned tonight that donald trump jr. Tested positive for coronavirus. Reporter this is surprising. Remember, his girlfriend, Kimberly Gill foil had coronavirus earlier this year, but now were learning the president s son also has been diagnosed with it. He was diagnosed monday. Had it several days before it was reported by bloomberg that he contracted it. His spokesman confirmed hes quarantining. Hes taking the necessary precautions but this is just more evidence that were seeing people in the president s inner circle with getting this. A lot of times theyre disregarding or dismissing the receiv severity of the pandemic. Rudy giuliani also quarantining because his son tested positive for coronavirus and has not been wearing a mask at the white house. You just see the danger of this happening here inside the west wing and the president s family. Kaitlan collins badass White House Reporter thanks for being with us. Keep up the good work. Thanks, john. More now on just how unprecedented this is, not the mention unpresident ial. David gergen joins us. Hes seen quite a lot from the inside, but not quite this. Also Douglas Brinkley and Jennifer Granholm who is a Senior Member now of the biden transition team. David, you wrote a piece for cnn. Com today and you say, never before has the opposition undermined the legitimacy of a new president before he has even taken office to anything like this degree or fashion. You served in both republican and democratic administrations. How unprecedented is this on the way in . Very. Very. When people like doug and i were growing up im a little older than doug president s had honeymoons. They got six, eight months of time when the opposition, the media, other groups were very supportive, wanted to see them succeed. Made a big difference. They got things done. Then we went through a period for bill clinton to today when president s were denied their honeymoons but left unschoolyard coming out. They had to make it on their own. It was rougher, but they made out on their way. This is the first time weve ever seen trying to kneecap an incoming president before he takes the oath of office. To set out in a deliberate way to sabotage a future president before he can go and take try to do things for the country. That is different. And im really worried, john. The more you look at the data and whats happening among trump voters, the more you see a swing from, well, maybe this wasnt decided fraudulently. Maybe it was could have been decided better. Now there is an active view among a lot of trump voters. The polls bear this out. 75 think that biden is coming from a place of fraud. They basically think that he will be illegitimate. Think about that. You translate that into a number of you got 73 million voters who voted for trump. 75 of them think biden is a fraud. That means if you whittle it down, were going to have an election day, possibly and likely, 15 million americans who believe that our new president is illegitimate. That is extremely damaging to the prospects for democracy. Thats important becauseky not think it has an impact nonetheless. But to that point, Douglas Brinkley, to explicitly say youre trying to overturn the election which is what the president s lawyers are doing, where does that fit in historical precedent . Theres nothing close to that, is there . It goes against american traditions. Its what dictators do. Its the kind of stunt Vladimir Putin who President Trump worships would do. Theres nothing like this. I think david used the right word sabotage. You have a president trying to wreck what was one of the great accomplishments in a very hard year in 2020. We in 2016 had russian interference, men like mr. Krebs will to work to stop and make sure the cybersecurity was okay. We ended up having a historic number of voters. We should all be doing, what a Great Success the election was. Instead, donald trump wants to act like a petulant child. His erratic behavior in the white house and the way hes trolling around in michigan and georgia and pennsylvania, taking worthless legal cases to court and losing, makes you think hes mentally unstable. Weve thought this for a while, but, you know, this is we used to think nixons last days were dark or Lyndon Johnsons were problematic. This was bizarro. Its going to be hard for bide t en to pull the country together. Its going to be hard. Hell try, but i doubt there will be a trump there to participate at the ceremony. Governor granholm normally youd celebrate two michigananders going to the white house, but these deny on a scale of 1 to 10, how inappropriate do you think this meeting was today . Oh, it was 100. It was so utterly inappropriate. But the good news is, though, john, is that the two michigan legislators, they have now as you reported, reaffirmed their commitment to respect the constitution and voters. So, to the problems that have been identified there by david gergen and Douglas Brinkley, it is long past time for every republican to come out and stand for american democracy and acknowledge joe biden as the president elect so we can move Forward Together to tackle these big issues like the covid crisis. It is the republicans need to stem this problem that david gergen has identified. They need to step up. Thank you to mitt romney and others who have. But the rest need to do so as well. The Republican Party has to begin to repair the damage that donald trump has been making. The good news is, though, the gambit today, however wrong the president s actions might be, the pillars that are holding up this democracy, they are not going to be toppled. The president may be slashing at them. He may be flailing at them in desperation, but these pillars will not fall, and the choice of the voters is going to be upheld. 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If one for ever made and put up in the washington area, their name should be associated with that. Frankly, i consider them to be sunshine conservatives. When you look at what President Trump is trying to do, he has tried to undermine the 10th amendment. Most conservatives cite the 10th amendment as being the 10th commandment, that there are state rights. The right to vote is governed by the governor and legislature in that state or the county. The president saying any writein ballots, mailin ballots, absentee ballots theyre all fraudulent. So a hes saying theyre okay as long as he can vote by mail, or done in florida. Thats not fraudulent. What hes doing is saying anybody who votes by other than in person is committing a fraud upon the american people. So what hes doing in essence, these trying to criminalize those who live in cities as he has done for black people and people of color. Naming them presumptively criminal because of the color of their skin or because they live in cities and therefore they must be engage in the fraud. This is time for my republican friends who consider themselves to be conservatives to speak out for states rights. Every state has the right to set what the procedure and policy is going to be in terms of the peoples right to vote. I think hes undermining the constitution, the 10th amendment and those who consider themselves conservatives should be the first in line to speak out against that. The fact of the matter is that 50 sitting republican senators have said squat. They have said nothing. So far we have ben sasse, mitt romney, and