Right there, from its selfproclaimed capital of raqqa all the way to the border with turkey. Now developments today. Dutch forces have joined the air strikes for the first time. The Coalition Getting bigger. Coalition planes launching an additional four strikes in other parts of syria, that would be u. S. Planes along with its arab allies, as well as hitting isis targets in iraq. At least 29 militants were reported killed in the city about 70 miles from mosul. And as all this is happening, a new book from the former defense secretary leon panetta, a man who has spent decades in democratic politics, says that president obamas action or inaction over the last two or three years has made the battle in the middle east much tougher. In that book titled worthy fights. A memoir of leadership . War and peace panetta writes isis could help get the president get things right after having lost his way. Panetta also believes despite what president obama has said, defeating isis will require u. S. Boots on the ground. Panetta explained this to our gloria borger. I take the position that when youre commander in chief that you really ought to keep all options on the table. To be able to have the flexibility to do what is necessary in order to defeat this enemy. Now make those air strikes work, to be able to do what you have to do, you dont just send planes in and drop bombs. Youve got to have targets. Youve got to know what youre going after. To do that, you do need people on the ground. But, wait, theres more. In his book, the former defense secretary also says the president s inaction in arming Syrian Rebels, not Holding Bashar Al Assad accountable for his use of chemical weapons and pulling troops from iraq helped create the crisis that the u. S. Now faces. Heres more from glorias interview. To a large extent it wasnt that the president kind of said no we shouldnt do it. The president kind of never really came to a decision as to whether or not it should happen. What do you mean by that, never dime a decision . I think it basically sat there for a while and got to the point where everybody just assumed it was not going to happen. Is that the right way to do things . I think it would have been far better had he just made the decision were not going to do it so everybody knew where we stood but we all kind of waited to see whether or not he would ultimately come around. And and it didnt happen. And you talk about hesitation and half steps. 1 that what youre referring to . Yeah, it was that hesitation to really do what needed to be done. Now, you know, dont get me wrong. I think he was very strong in terms of the war on terrorism and he made some tough decisions. But there were these decisions that basically never were confronted that i think in many ways contributed to the problems were facing today. Hes made the decision to put troops on the ground in iraq, to try to help the security forces. Hes made the decision to arm and train rebel forces in syria and hes made the decision to conduct air attacks. So in many ways hes made the right decisions now. I think those decisions should have been made two years ago. Kind of rare to see a president ial ally hit his former boss so soon, too soon, according to some. In fact, if you open up the Washington Post opinion section today youll see an oped from dana mill bank accusing panetta of stunning disloyalty. Dana is with us at this hour. So is our military analyst Lieutenant ColonelRick Francona. Dana, i happen to know for a fact youve been in washington for a long time and youve seen a lot of books from a lot of former advisors to president s. Why are you so stunned . What is so stunning, then, about this to you . You know, john, when you and i were covering the bush administration, he had his share of disloyalty. Remember there were books by paul oneill. Whats happened, though, i think is without precedent. You have to bob gates book, then the Hillary Clinton book now you have the panetta book, all essentially saying the same thing, if you can short hand it saying hes been too weak and hasnt been a tough enough leader. Its not necessarily that they are saying something wrong. Ive made that critique often times myself. But it is really stunning to see so much vitriol coming out so quickly while this president s still in office and, you know, republicans are holding this up as evidence. I was at an event with bobby jindal yesterday and he said you dont need to listen to me, just listen to leon panetta. To colonel Rick Francona in studio with us. We are at war with isis. Weve been talking about this for some time now. But to the former defense secretarys point, he says and ive heard you say that that in order to beat them, its not going to just take air strikes, its going to take ground forces. So the question is, did the president drop the ball by not arming those syrian troops years ago . Well, yeah. There were several events that happened within a space of a couple of years. First of all was the withdrawal of all of our forces from iraq, you can decide whether that was a good thing or bad thing but in hindsight we should have kept a residual force there if not just to have force on the ground but to watch what was happening to the iraqi army. Then combine that with not supporting the Syrian Rebels and we created that power vacuum that allowed the resurgent al qaeda in iraq to move into syria. So, you know, those things, the conflation of events created the problem were facing right now. So, yes, you can look back and say the president s decision not to arm and to pull the troops out of iraq probably brought us where we are today. You know, dana, im still strug struck by the parlor game of this. A lot of people talkings about leon panettas book and interviews. Isnt it a matter of perspective, when you agree with the chris schism isnt it whistle blowing and truth telling and shining a light on crisis but when you disagree with it its disloyalty. The roster of freedom leon panetta, robert gates, Hillary Clinton, these people have decades of Public Service and a whole bunch of jobs. John, i think its bothment its disloyalty and its truthtelling and its no coincidence these three people are people who are they had independent careers, they were famous and well known. They didnt owe their careers to barack obama. So when they left government, they didnt feel any residual loyalty to him the way some kid who was just brought up through ranks with barack obama might feel. So thats sort of the peril. Its good to have people in your administration who are independent. Hes now learning that there is a down side and you cant necessarily have them keep their mouths shut when they leave office. Panetta did say, though, colonel, that he did agree that the. Is doing some things right now. Are we going to see more of this president that we saw that green lit the Osama Bin Laden raid . I hope so, we need more decisions and positive action. Right now the limitation of no troops on the ground, even to the point where we cant have forward air controllers, is really hurting us. I think the president needs to relook that and i hope that s. E. C. Hair hagel and chairman dempsey will go back to the president and say we need to alter this strategy because as weve talked before and as we can see over the past couple days, the past week or so this is not working. Weve got isis moving not only in syria but theyre moving in iraq and we initially thought the air strikes were stopping them in iraq, were finding out thats not the case, the iraqi army does not have the capability to dislodge these guys. We have to change what were doing. Quite a discussion. Lieutenant colonel, thanks for being with us. Dana millibank, a stunning debut on this hour with berman and michaela. Thanks for coming on. As dana report this morning, he mentioned bobby jindal, they are loving this. Eating it up. All they have to do is krit size president is quote his former defense secretary. Its like guiltfree mudslinging. The question is how damage willing this be and might it have an effect on the midterms . Well have more on that later this hour. Also, what would make an american teen suddenly try to leave the u. S. And possibly join up with isis fighters half way around the world . Some of his friends offer some revealing clues. And how did a hospital worker get ebola just by treating a patient a couple of times . This is the first case of anyone catching this virus outside of africa and its raising serious concerns about whether hospitals are ready. Whos going to do it . Whos going to make it happen . Discover a new energy source. Turn ocean waves into power. 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New details about a chicago teenager who allegedly wanted to join isis. 19yearold Mohammed Hamzah khan has a federal Court Appearance thursday on attempting to provide support for a terrorist organization. He was arrested at chicagos Ohare Airport as he was about to board a flight to turkey where he supposedly was going to meet an isis contact. The same time he was detained at the airport, federal agents executed a search warrant on the family home in suburban chicago. Allegedly they found incriminating documents that khan planned to join up with terrorist fighters in syria or iraq. Lo loaurie segall is our tech correspondent. We should point out that naja, his former life as a muslim extreme cyst chronicled in his book radical. A fascinating read. Well get to you in a second but laurie i want you to get us up to date on what youve been looking into. The digital footprint this young man left behind and what investigators will be combing through. I started by looking at his Facebook Page and spock with his facebook friends. A lot of his friends said he went to a Muslim School and took time off to memorize the koran which they said was completely normal. Everyone said they were shocked that he was very smart, that he was very social. But looking further at his digital footprint, looking at that facebook profile there are a couple clues. If you look at his cover profile its a picture of lions. And what one terrorism expert told me was that he said that image is used overwhelmingly by isis reporters. But youre looking at his likes right now, chicago bulls, muslims for peace. And so its very hard to put the two and two together. On youtube he liked vice he loves the god ciller trailer but he liked extremist videos and i gained access to his status updates that you cant see unless youre friends with him and one thing he said on september 2 was isis actions are going to make our lives harder. So when you put two and two together you have to think feds must have had compelling evidence before he went to that airport and i didnt see it 100 in his digital foot print. A lot of times these guys are very vocal online. Hes like a kid looking on line there. Maajid, you wrote an interesting open letter about a month ago asking members of isis to quit while they can. This has been passed around on social media a lot. Im curious about two things. One, did you convince anybody . Has anyone reached out to you and said im going to quit isis . And, two, can people who would be us is september to believe the isis message, can they be reached by an alternative message that really is antithose ideals . Well, thank you. On your first question, i think that i know that the letter has had some impact. I wouldnt want to go into details because its dangerous for people attempting to defect from isis or isil. Some people who are foreign fighters from the west in particular, britain, have attempted to do so and have been arrested and punished by isil as traitors. So we have to be careful when discussing this. But yes. On the second part of your question, people can change. I dont think that western fighters who go to join isil should be spared the full force of justice when they come back. And my letter made that point clear to them. My open letter that youve referred to. Of course they should face justice. The argument rested on the idea that actually our justice systems in the west are far more equitable and fairer than anything they could expect under isils authority or even under some of the dictators of the arab world like assad of syria. So i was actually saying, yes, third face justice but they should rest assured that these are the sorts of societies in the west and once they serve their time in jail they will be released and reintegrated back into society. And my commitment to them was that i would personally involve myself in attempting to rehabilitate them. But those fighters are the ones who went to syria thinking that they were going to fight a dictator and ended up in isil, ended up being swept up by the events and joined a group far more extreme than al qaeda without intending to do so. Those who went out there deliberately to join isil specifically and we wont comment on the ongoing case of Mohammed Khan at the moment but those who have gone out to specifically join isil, thats a tougher nut to crack. So tell me what you would say to a young man, a 19yearold, a teenager still, who is thinking of leaving the safety of his own home and going over to a fight to fight a war that isnt his and it isnt as clearcut as they originally think. What would you say to a young man like this fellow in chicago . Well, if i were to address through your Television Screens these young men, what i would say to them is, look, we can all empathize with the desire to go and fight for the oppressed against the brutality of the dictator that is assad. We can all empathize. Ive been there and i know what arab jails are like. Ive served as a political prisoner in egypt jails we where we witnessed torture. I know that the oppression of these jails and dictators. This is not the way and they are not going to be liberating the oppressed in syria. Instead, what these young naive angry muslim westerners are doing is theres theyre joining muslim on muslim civil were that we have known in this age and they are going to have to take responsibility for some great atrocities because isil will test them. They will not trust them. They will suspect them of being western agents infiltrating the organization. So they will force them to do things to prove their loyalty. That will include torture. That will include beheadings. It will include rape. So these young angry men who want to be good muslims, thun of those things make you a good person, let alone a good muslim. Maajid, youre such a good reporter, as you dig through here, do you get the sense the antiisis message is seeping through on these outlets or not as much . Honestly, not as much. These guys have been doing this for years. They are so entrenched. I am still going on ask fm which particularly targets teenagers and seeing active profiles ande profiles and youre not seeing this other message so i understand the effort is there to do it but theyve got a long way to go. Thank you to lori see gal and ma jad nawaz. Great reporting, thank you to you both. Ahead for us at this hour, the first case of ebola caught outside of africa. It is really sporking new worries about how this virus is spread and how prepared our medical facilities really are. [ male announcer ] we all think about life insurance. 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Authorities say the assistant helped treat two ebolastricken priests after they returned to spain from two countries at the center of the crisis. Both those patients died. Dr. Anthony fauci tells us there was obviously a breach in protocol that led to the nurses assistant catching this virus in madrid. When youre taking care of someone in an intensive care setting, not everyone is perfect. There are protocols that if you follow it carefully you diminish greatly the likelihood that youre going to get infected. In fact, if you look where there are so many patients being cared for in west african countries, experienced groups like doctors without borders, very rarely, if ever, get an infection. But somehow protocol is sometimes inadvertently broken and someone exposes themselves. This ebola case in spain comes that has man, the first person to be diagnosed with the virus here in the u. S. , continues to fight for his life. That patient, come mass eric duncan, were tolding is receiving an experimental drug at a dallas hospital. Elizabeth cohen is at that very hospital in dallas. Elizabeth, we want to talk about duncans state and his condition right now but we really want to focus on this new case in spain, the first time anyone outside of west africa has been known to contract the virus. We heard dr. Fauci. He seems pretty certain that medical protocol was inadvertently breached. And theres the question, right . The protocols here versus west africa versus europe. You know, michaela, i think it may not be so much of a difference in protocols, my guess is the protocols were the same, its the ability to follow those