Leaving for another assignment and the special counsels grand jury has not been seen in two months. While he waits, President Trump is keeping up his attacks. There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. Everybody knows it. Its all a big hoax. Its the witch hunt. Its all a big hoax. Well see what happens. I know that the attorney general, highly respected ultimately will make a decision. Sarah westwood gets us started from the white house. What else did the president have to say . Reporter well, President Trump started linking that special counsel investigation to the several House Democratic probes that are now ongoing into his white house and business. He called those probes a continuation of the same witch hunt, his favorite name for the russia investigation. And he was also asked about allegations that his soninlaw Jared Kushner has been using whats app to communicate with foreign leaders. The president said he knows nothing about that. Thats just one of several areas of inquiries for House Democrats. Elijah cummings said yesterday that his committee had evidence several were using personal messaging services to conduct official business. The white house also indicating yesterday that they would be resisting requests for information about communications between trump and russian president Vladimir Putin saying that courts have argued that those communications are protected. It hurts the president s ability to conduct foreign diplomacy. The president also down played the prospects for impeachment saying if House Democrats were to initiate impeachment proceedings that would only help republicans politically although House Democrats have not expressed interest in pursuing impeachment as they expand their several investigations into this white house. Sarah westwood live from the north lawn of the white house. Thank you for that. While President Trump may be playing them down, House Democrats are still demanding answers from the white house on a number of new investigations. Sarah just mentioned one of them looking at whether or not Jared Kushner conducted official government business on their personal email and text. Tell us the latest on that investigation. Reporter Elijah Cummings sent a letter to the white house demanding information about the use of personal email at the white house. What he is alleging in his letter is that the attorneys who represents both of them told them in a december meeting that Jared Kushner has used whats app to communicate with foreign leaders. He also contends that Jared Kushners attorney has said that ivanka trump used personal email to conduct personal business and did not forward official emails to the government account. This is something that abbe lowell pushed back against. He did not dispute that Jared Kushner used whats app. He said he has been in compliance with federal law by essentially forwarding the messages to his official account. This is something that Elijah Cummings wants more answers to. He says former white house officials also apparently using some of their personal emails to do their government business. Of course, all of this comes after the president has relentlessly attacked Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email system. One might say a little ironic. The white house rejecting a request from democrats to obtain documents relating to President Trumps communication with Vladimir Putin. What can you tell us about that . Reporter this was a request that several democratic chair men have made because there have been few details about the facetoface interactions between trump and putin. There have been questions about what exactly the american interpreter might know. Those chair men demanded information and wanted to interview official whose had knowledge of the meeting. After the white house rejected it made clear that they were prepared to fight this in the long haul. This is what was said in a letter to the chair men yesterday saying the president must be free to engage in discussions with foreign leaders without fear that those communications will be disclosed and use this for political purposes. The democratic chairman Elijah Cummings as well as adam schiff say they are now weighing their next steps about how to pursue this information. They say this is a troubling pattern by the Trump Administration of rejecting legitimate and necessary congressional oversight with no regard for precedent or the constitution. This is all part of a growing fight between House Democrats who sent letters asking for voluntary compliance. Now we are about to hit the next phase which is subpoenas. The question is how does the white house respond. Thank you. Plenty to unpack now. We have a great panel to talk about it. Cnn political commentator joe lockheart. Samantha who served during the Obama Administration and cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. Lets talk about the legal implications so far of the Mueller Report first with you, paul. If Robert Mueller doesnt think he can charge the president here or anymore associates, is there really anything we will learn from this report if it ever does become public . This will depend on how much attorney general barr authorizes the release of because he really has control over how much of muellers product whatever it is goes public. I suspect there will be a lot of very interesting details in the report that have not been revealed. Mueller has been extremely effective in keeping the report confidential, keeping his investigation confidential. I would look for some really important factual items to be revealed. I want you to comment on the letter that Rod Rosenstein sent a few months ago where he kind of offers a road map, if you will, of the Mueller Reports findings. This was one section of it. He said quote punishing wrong doers through judicial proceedings is only one part of the departments mission. We also have a duty to prevent the disclosure of information that would unfairly tarnish people who are not charged with crimes. One might argue that is what james comey did when he held the press conference. Could that have an impact on what is delivered in this report and made available to the public . Absolutely it could. I think it is an important principle. If this were a garden variety prosecutor doing an investigation and coming up with some things that maybe suggested criminality but didnt make the reasonable doubt standard you wouldnt tarnish the person. That gets released when the case is brought into court. Of course, the president is a political figure so the standards are going to be different. I think we will see more details. The second thing, if this report is coming out imminently, the grand jury did a lot of the work for mueller. And grand jury proceedings are absolutely secret under federal law. So the biggest problem i think that barr and mueller are going to have in deciding what to put in the report is whether it is grand jury secret material because if they put that in the report and it is released, thats a violation of criminal law. So watch for that when the report comes out. Joe, i want to turn to you because there has obviously been a communication strategy between the white house and the president. He has been effective of boiling down the goal of the report to determine whether or not the issue is collusion. Should he be more worried about obstruction of justice . I think he should be most worried about collusion. Even if the president is right that he didnt personally collude we know his campaign did. We know the russians influenced this election. Because we have heard that before doesnt make it less big news. The obstruction thing is really where and in the mueller basket of things he probably should be most concerned about because he did it in plain sight. Im not talking from a legal point of view, but from a political point of view, he did everything he could to impede this investigation. Its generally not in political ter terms the way innocent people act. He can do almost anything, as he says, and his base is not going to leave him. But to the rest of the country, the 65 of the country, i think this is a real problem and they are going to take this with them to the election booth in 2020. So, sam, i want to turn to something on twitter last night that got a lot of retweets from one of the most talented social Media Politicians and that is alexandria ocasiocortez tweeting a cnn report about Jared Kushners use of whats app for foreign correspondence and secretary clinton responding saying tell me about it. This is something you know about, the use of social media, the potential pit falls related to it. Would it surprise you to learn that Jared Kushner is in communication through an app like whats app with foreign leaders . Jared kushner is following the president s lead. He is using his devices in an unauthorized way. It doesnt surprise me in that respect. The use of whats app is really hitting a triple but not for the home u. S. Team. Every white house staffer that enters the white house is briefed on the president ial edures and Counter Intelligence risks. By using whats app, Jared Kushner is knowingly violating the president ial records act. He is using a device and not keeping a record of information that has to do with president ial records. I did not throw out a post it when i was in the white house if it had something to do with the president s business because that is the law and that information belongs to the public. I may have missed something, but whats app is not a classified app. If Jared Kushner was speaking with a foreign leader and that is normally a classified conversation, he was doing so using an unclassified device. From a Counter Intelligence perspective, Jared Kushners lawyer said he gave screen shots to u. S. Government officials. We have no way of knowing whether that is true or not. Mohammed bin salman may have more information than the u. S. Government that gives the saudis a manipulation point over Jared Kushner yet again. Do you think this is one of the issues with Jared Kushners security clearance . I think this probably effects he and ivanka trump in terms of use of personal devices. The president ial records act is very clear that within 20 days of you using a communication device that has an effect on president ial deliberations, it has to be preserved. Of course, we have to find out if Jared Kushner has been preserving and saving these things via screen shot or some other thing. I think this is a very, very serious problem. I want to talk about the stone walling of these congressional committees. How long can the white house hold off on giving this information that congressional leaders are looking for . My guess is they will stone wall them through the election and that their strategy is there is no benefit for them in releasing any of this information because it is incredibly damaging. Just take Jared Kushner. He cant get a security clearance. He is running the middle east Peace Process. The middle east Peace Process is falling apart because trump is going outside the channels of his own government. So this would be they would much rather take the heat for stone walling than to have the facts come out. Now, thats a very Difficult Campaign to run. But again, for his base, they dont really care. If i could just add quickly on the putin transcript, this is President Trumps bed. He refused to brief congress when he got back from his trip. He refused to keep them fully informed. Now they are trying to get access to information that President Trump knowingly withheld from them. He could solve some of this by going to congress, telling them what happened with Vladimir Putin and getting at this that way. And the bottom line is there are professionals that do this. Right now donald trump and Jared Kushner, two people who have no experience with Foreign Policy are running our Foreign Policy. We have to leave it there. Excellent conversations. Thank you all for being here. We appreciate it. 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