Whistleblower. Lets start there. The president has said over and over, 34 separate times through sunday, that the whistleblower was highly inaccurate. And we know the whistleblower was quite accurate. It shows the three main allegations about that phone call with zelensky were correct. So this is up is down dishonesty. Trump is entirely incorrect here. And one thing that stuck out to me, and its par for the course when the president is concerned about something someone says when the president now wants to distance himself from anybody is now the person hes trying to distance himself from is the ambassador to the european union, Gordon Sondland, declaring here that he barely even knows the guy. Yeah. Weve seen him do this over and on every with various people who were once in his orbit. As soon as they get in trouble, hes never met them or accidents know them. With sondland, this was a sharp reversal than what he said in early october. He said sondland was a great american, was highly respected. So now that sondland has provided this addendum to his testimony, trump said he hardly knows the gentleman. On capitol hill where republicans are landing right now, there is no linkage between a quid pro quo directly to the president getting past the reasons that they were asking ukraine to investigate. Im not hearing so much on capitol hill any more about the conspiracy theories regarding ukraine and the 2016 election as well as joe bidesen. The president going directly back to this concept that he has been pushing with regard to joe biden and corruption. He did. We know trump likes to reverse allegations being made about him. So he accuses joe biden of krupgsz and he is claiming that bidens efforts to get a ukrainian prosecutor fired in 2016 was corrupt, that that was the real quid pro quo. We know that effort was sanctioned by the entire u. S. Government, that was the official policy from the Obama Administration and this prosecutor was considered ineffective in prosecution corruption and the oois wanted something who was more willing to fight corruption. So this biden case is not at all like the case were dealing with now with President Trump. And it was kurt volker who essentially backed that up in testimony saying that what joe biden was doing was the position desire of all of all western governments to get this prosecutor out. This was the plan back then. It wasnt some corrupt, small game that joe biden was playing that wasnt sangded actioned an pushed by the entire u. S. Government. Addby, i always ask you and ill ask you again, when it comes to the president and the way hes acting towards the investigation today, it felt very cerca a few months ago with regard to the russia investigation, hes clearly lashing out. You can take the words ukraine out and insert russia and mueller. What does that say kind of about the level of concern about whats coming from the white house about whats happening on capitol hill . I think youre exactly right about that. The president s behavior right now is basically what he was doing at the height of the mueller investigation. Down to calling for various people to be tried for treason as he did today with the whistleblowers lawyer. So the president , when he faces pressure like this, clearly lashes out and takes the act ewe sayses against him and accuses other people of the same thing. And the president is trying to control the narrative by repeating over and over again that his call was perfect, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that all the team tfring against him are never trumpers. And annoy hes accusing Gordon Sondland who he had a conversation with about this ewe congratulation situation, hes saying he doesnt even know the man. I think thats super telling and noteworthy and something to remember, right . Yeah. Its what he does when people start to turn on him in these kinds of investigations like he did with michael cohen, like he did at one point with Paul Manafort and just trying to create some distance. But, kate, as always, the facts just do not line up with the vast majority of the statements being made in this situation. And i think it just highlights that the people around the president are flailly to figure out how to deal with all of this and President Trump continues to want to manage the situation himself by repeating things that are not true. Of course, its all about how long is this going to last . How tinble is this especially as we get into te part of these hearings that are going to become public in the coming days. And ive said this every day this week so i am a broken record, but its far beyond the whistleblower complaint and one phone call. It is now sworn testimony upon sworn testimony that are corroborating what the whist whistleblower says and going beyond the call. And it is not a full transcript. S a rough accounting of what that call was. One white house officials taepted to make changes to the transcript to offer more clarity and he was stopped from doing that. I am now going to get off my soap box. Abby, daniel, thank you so much. Let us move to capitol hill. This time it was from President Trump was talking about it right there, the highest ranking whiteout officials to be subpoenaed in the impeachment inquiry yet. Mick mulvaney was issued a statement to abdomen for testimony today. Lawmakers are determined to hear his account when it comes to the ukraine scandal. But this is why it is no wonder that they would especially after this memorable moment from the White House Briefing room last month when Mick Mulvaney started taking questions and acknowledged, admitted and doubled down on the fact that what took place was a quid pro quo. This is a corrupt place. I dont want to send them a bunch of money and have them waste it, have them use it to line their own pockets. Did he also mention to me in the past the corruption related to the dnc server . Absolutely. No question about that. But thats it. Thats why we held up the money. What you just described is a quid pro quo. It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happens, as well. We do that all the time with Foreign Policy. Shortly after that, of course, face ago ton of backlash, Mick Mulvaney tried to walk that back. This comes on the heels of some of the most explosive information to come out from a Current State Department official. His name is george kent. His transcript from his deposition was released yesterday. Thats the latest from house democrats. And kent, in that testimony, says that Rudy Giuliani was run ago campaign of lies in ukraine and that he was cut on you out of ukraine policy decisions after white house meetings organized by none other than Mick Mulvaney. So lets get over to capitol hill for this part of it. Phil mattingly is there. What kind of impact is mulvaney not showing up having . And we had one thing answered from the president asked why hes not allowing officials like Mick Mulvaney to go to capitol hill. He says i dont want to give credibility to the investigation. Yeah. And when you heard those comments, frankly, youve watched the white house posture on this throughout the last couple of weeks. Nobody expected Mick Mulvaney to sow up this morning. Yet still, Nick Mulvaneys outside council informed democratic investigators that he would not be showing up because the white house believes, as is stated with other top officials, that he has absolute immunity. Let me explain why mulvaney is not that important. First and foremost, his not showing up doesnt mean hes out of the game on this one. His name will likely appear in an article of impeachment. Anybody who doesnt show up will be in an article of impeachment. There is a hole in the investigation in the sense that nobody has been able to tie the president to the alleged quid pro quo. And the reason why is there is such a small number of people around the president delivering these orders. Why did that happen . How did that happen . Its still unclear. That is why mulvaneys testimony, if it ever comes, and that seems unlikely right now, is important. George each testimony yesterday, a career diplomate largely lining up with what weve heard from a lot of other career diplomates, as well. Rogue elements and actors helping to undercut through a campaign of lies, the standing u. S. Ambassador to ukraine. Making clear that that is not the u. S. Policy, it never has been and, in fact, according to him, that is what the u. S. Is traditionally castigating other countries for doing. So youre going to see that probably come out in a kump more transcripts in the next day or two, but youre going to see that in public hearings next week. I think what weve seen is a continued thread that lines up with one another and thats going to blow into the public sphere next week. Wednesday, taylor and kent testify. Friday, yavonovich testifies and all of this is going to move to camera live and in living color. And the public is going to watch everything weve been reading in these transcripts. And thats exactly right. And it reinforces an important point to reiterate. Which is when he harps on the whistleblower and wanting to know the whistleblowers identity, its past the whistleblowers identity because the officials youre laying out have confirmed and gone beyond what the whistle blower laid out in the complaint. Yeah. That is absolutely the case. You hear that from a lot of democrats. I think republicans stick to the fact that they believe nobody has directly connected to the president and theyre not incorrect on that. But to believe that, you would have to believe other people were operating on their own as rogue actors. So i think those are the two dynamics were going to see next week. The story seems to largely line up as the same and republicans saying fine, fair, whatever. It doesnt directly connect to the president. So how this all plays out will be interesting to say. There is a threat through multiple officials about what was happening with u. S. Policy to ukraine, what was happening with the effort to push a political statement to the ukrainians and how that ties together is going to become very, very public next week. And how if inappropriate is going to lead to the final. Its good to see you. Thank you so much. So house impeachment inquiry kicks into gear next week. How is it going to change things . Joining me now, chris van holen. Thank you for coming in. Its good to be with you. First and foremost, the fact that Mick Mulvaney is not showing up, the president says he doesnt want to give credibility to the investigation. But what message does it sent to you that hes not showing up . Well, indicate, it sends the message to me and i think most to the American People that they have something to hide. If they had a good story to tell, they would want to tell it. The different is when Mick Mulvaney was at the white house and blurted out the truth in that segment you just played, he had to retract the statement under pressure. But when it comes to congress, he will have to raise his right hand, be sworn in and testify under the penalty of perjury. These white house folks do not want to testify under penalty of perjury. We have americans testifying under penalty of perjury. If they make stuff up, they can go to jail. No one in the white house wants to put themselves in that situation, as we know, even President Trump refused to testify under penalty of perjury through a deposition in mueller because the stakes are much higher. So that is the big difference here. They dont have a good story to tell and they dont want to tell the bad story because it will come out under penalty of perjury. Let me ask you this. They dont want to testify because it will come out. The Washington Post is reporting now that the republicans are trying to protect the president by making others the fall guys. And weve started to see some of the way theyre talking about this. President trump now saying he doesnt even know the guy in terms of Gordon Sondland. If that is the plan now to make them the fall guys, what does it what do you do with that, then . Well, kate, that just tells me that the walls are closing in on this president. If hes going to throw all the people that we know he knows well, have been big supporters of his during the campaign and throw them overboard, that is a desperate strategy. And it wont work. Look, we have the transcript, not the exact transcript, the memo. The president keeps calling it perfect. But we all know if you actually look at that memo, the president does change the conversation with the ukrainian leader from providing u. S. Military assistance to favors that hes going to ask of the ukrainian government. And all these other witnesses under oath, i think the American Public is not going to be fooled this time around and theyre not going to be sort of following the president s efforts to distract about the whistle monther. All the president is trying to do on the whistleblower is scare other potential whistleblowers in government from coming forward. Thats why we have a law to protect the identity of whistleblowers because we dont want them to be retaliated against. What the president is saying is anyone who comes forward, were going to disclose your identity and come after you full bore. Following questions dhau raised, the office, the gao as we lovingly call it is now reviewing whether the hold that the white house put on military aid money for ukraine, if it violated the law. If they come back to you and say that it did violate appropriations law, senator, what do you do . So, kate, that is a good question. And let me just say before that that necessary are two distinct issues. And i want to emtz that becauem that. The focus of the abuse inquiry goes to the abuse of power where the president said to the ukrainian leader, were not going the give you this funded tax military stangz. There is a separate law on the books to prevent president s from withholding money. And the gao, in 2018, issued a legal opinion saying president s could not sort of run out the clock at the end of the fiscal year by submitting rescission requests to take back money and not giving congress enough time to act on that. So what weve asked gio to do is look into whether the ptd and this administration was attempt to go impound money illegally. The answer to your question is unfortunately theres no Legal Recourse currently. I did offer an amendment in the Budget Committee just this week that was accepted that Going Forward in the future would apply penalties to folks in at administration who tried to illegally impossible money. But right now, there is no real Legal Recourse and thats part of the weakness of this system. Well look forward to what gao has to say. So if articles of impeachment would pass by years end in the house, that means a trial in the senate come january. Are you concerned that that could then force because is this some of the conversation im seeing in reporting now, senator, that this could force the six senators running in the president ial primary, force them off the trail and back in washington . Well, look, this is an important and very solemn moment for the country and that is going to be one of the, you know, thats going to be something theyre just going to have to do to do their job as senators. Its important that members of the senate be there to listen to the testimony and make their decisions. And so that is an issue, obviously, theyre going to have to deal with. But in summary, tough cookies. Well, i mean, my main concern is that we get the facts that the country gets the facts and that we all deliberate and issue a judgment in a fair way. And i think that is everybodys responsibility. Senator, thanks for coming in. Im interested to hear what you hear back from doj on this. Absolutely. Thank you. 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