Matters. Do you think she is the best running mate . Shes the Vice President of the united states. Well, why isnt she doing this or this, shes the Vice President. That is the job description. Thats not exactly allowed endorsement. It is worth noting. The first black woman to serve as Price President has sustained unusual and relentless attacks from republicans. In fact, if you listen to the candidates who are running on the republican side, youd think that they are running actually against her and not biden. A vote for joe biden is a vote for Kamala Harris. I would look for someone who in every quality, i would go down the list of Kamala Harris and we would pick the opposite. If you want to hear the scariest words on any screen in the country, Kamala Harris is ready to be your president. That scared the dickens out of all of us. If we muffed this one and biden gets in again, heck, you might end up with kamala as president. Look, i think joe biden and harris are going to be the great unify enters of the Republican Party. I want to be clear that i pray every night for joe bidens good health. Not only because hes our president , but because of who our Vice President is. Every american knows that if Kamala Harris becomes president , we are in serious trouble of losing our country. And joining me now is House Assistant democratic leader congressman james clyburn. South carolina, the campaign cochair for the biden harris 2024 reelection campaign. Congressman, thank you for being here today. Thank you very much for having me. So, as everyone knows, you are one of President Bidens biggest political allies. He is now facing a lot of questions about whether he should move forward in this campaign. Is he the right candidate for democrats in 2024 . Well, i certainly think so. A lot of people question whether he was the right candidate back in 2020. You may recall the first three races did not go well. The first three contests. On the fourth time, it was a charm. He went on to win all the races on Super Tuesday. Maybe not quite all. Very close to a. When Super Tuesday was over, it was a foregone conclusion he would be the nominee. Joe biden has had a history of that sort of thing. Running against an incumbent at the age of 29 and defeating him, nobody gave him a chance then. Nobody gave him a chance in 2020. And here he is, the president of the united states. And now there are questions about him again. Its going to be fine. You might be selling yourself a little short there. In your role and and helping him get to Super Tuesday by endorsing him just before the South Carolina primary. I wonder, have you spoken to the president about all of this and these growing calls for him to step aside for the good of the party and the good of the country . Well, i have not talked to him about that. We talked before he went on this trip. And he left a message the night before he left. We have not yet talked in the last three or four days. Ill talk to him real soon. Ill tell him what im telling you. That is, from what im hearing from people, who really matter in these things, they are all on his reelection. And i know the pundits are there the people are writing. I saw the oped this morning and the editorial. I still feel that joe biden is much closer to the voters that most of these people who average hours. Last fall, the House Democratic leadership, including, yourself you made a decision to basically pass the torch to a trio of new younger leaders. Should President Biden do these same on the principle that maybe the time has come for the next generation to take a step up. I think he is. He is being transitional. He said that when he ran. The question, is what the timetable is. People are trying to tell him what the timetable should be. He never said that he would be anything but a transitional president. One of the other elements o f this, he just referenced the column that called on biden to step aside. Also reference Vice PresidentKamala Harris saying her low Approval Ratings should be a factor here. Should biden consider, as some of these democrats and liberals are suggesting, should he consider another Vice President ial pick . No, he should not. I think that Kamala Harris is doing a great job. People want her in her first term in first two years to be the kind of Vice President that joe biden was in his sixth and seventh year of his vice presidency. Everybody hits a Learning Curve in this business. We you have to learn the job. She got elected. She has learned the job. She is doing the job efficiently. She is doing it effectively. She cannot and should not be held responsible for her gender or her race. Too much of that is involved in these discussions. I want to play for you what former Speaker Nancy Pelosi said just moments ago on cnn. Is Kamala Harris the best running mate for this president . He thinks. So thats what matters. Do you think she is the best running mate . She is the Vice President of the united states, what people say to, me well, why isnt she doing this or this . She is the Vice President. That is the job description. So, congressman, just to point out there. She did stopped short of a full endorsement of a president harris. I want to add, that you brought this up about the Learning Curve, republicans right now are running on the idea that Vice President harris may have to step in if President Biden wins a second term. They are using that against her and what do you say in response to pelosi there, there is no time for a Learning Curve . The Learning Curve has taken place. I said she spent the first two years learning this job. She learned it well and she is doing it efficiently and thats what matters to me. And thats what i think shes doing. On Speaker Pelosis comments there . I have no comment on that. I say what i feel. And thats what i stand by. Congressman, well i have, you i want to get your reaction to the House RepublicanImpeachment Inquiry alleging what they are saying is a Culture Of Corruption involving President Biden and his family. What do you make of the fact that it seems that Speaker Mccarthy is planning to move forward with this without even holding a vote on an Impeachment Inquiry . Well, i think hes not holding a vote because he doesnt have the vote. The fact of the matter, is he might not need the votes in order to stop the process. He has to have the votes in order to end it. I dont think there are people 218 people in the House Of Representatives who feel that a person, should be impeached for being a father. And thats all thats taking place here. A man whos been a father to his son. There is nothing else that connects him to this issue then being a father of a son hes being accused. Congressman james clyburn, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me. And now on to a couple of democrats and two different views of President Bidens chances. Former Senior Adviser to Hillary Clinton police rhinos, and cochair for the 2020 campaign of Bernie Sanders, neatest turner. Felipe, lets start with you here. Is joe biden really the only person who can be a donald trump in 2024 . I think whats funny about this conversation is that the same question was posed to us in 2020. The answer was an utter resounding, a resounding yes. He is the one to beat donald trump. Hes the only one. It was decisive. Once biden won South Carolina democratic voters were decisive. Yes, yes. That seems to have changed though. I think thats what havent changed, Democrats Skittishness about this stuff. For the same reason people wanted joe biden to win in 2020. They just desperately wanted donald trump out. I think there is the same nerves kicking and now. They are so desperate to make sure donald trump doesnt get back in. Nina, i want to bring you in here. There is an argument being made here that there is time to choose a different nominee if youre a democrat. Maybe there is, maybe there isnt. Who would be an alternative realistically if democrats did not have biden at the top . If the process was open and fair, we would see. Because its not open and fair, we cant see. Obviously, we have an incumbent president right now for the dnc who will not allow for any debates. There are two candidates running right now to try to win the democratic nomination. Thats Marianne Williamson and Robert Kennedy junior. And then you have dr. Cornell west running as a grand cart party candidate. Many of the other types that would step into this race, some members of congress would not step into the race because of the incumbency. They know they would crash and burn with the democrats who controlled the levers of power, just as they did in 2020. I disagree the handwriting was on the wall in 2020, they were not on the won the first contest. Until people who were even ahead of senator biden, Vice President biden before he became the president got out of the race and jumped in on his side. It wasnt decisive early on in that primary about which democrat couldve actually won. Senator Bernie Sanders could have won. Would have beaten donald trump. We will never know. The levers of power played a different way. Abby, when im older than 35. Im a naturalized american citizen. Ive lived in the night states for the last 14 years. Theres nothing stopping me for running for president right now against joe biden. Against the republican field, a Third Party Candidate. I dont think theres anything stopping nina. Without relitigating the dnc fixing of 2016, i think right now, if a governor or member is not running because they are worried about getting shellaced by the president , that person cannot be president. Thats not why theyre running. Unite both know the reason why they are not running is because they dont want to be shut out. They dont want to become a pariah. If they run against the incumbent president , you and i both know the full force and weight of the dnc and others will come down on those candidates. Those are the reasons why they had not run. Another in that cnn poll, it shows very clearly that 67 of those polls, democratic voters, democraticleaning voters, want the Democratic Party to have another nominee. Another choice. Yet those in the bubble refused to listen to what the people have to say. 60 something percent were listened to in 2020. Whether you want to call it early dominated by the president or later, they voted for joe biden to. To act as if they had no say in this is wrong. Let me jump in here. One of the things about whats going on here, with the democrats. It seems like there are a lot of democrats, talking about this privately. Ive had thos e private conversations. They dont want to talk about it publicly. David ignatius column is making such a big splash, he saying the quiet part out loud. Which is what a lot of democrats accused republicans of being unwilling to do. So, felipe, i guess im wondering. This is the conversation that your own party is having, but nobody seems to want to take it seriously. Look, i have this conversation with friends. It drives me crazy when they bring it up. When they talk about bidens health, bidens age. Gino armando would be a better number two. I want to throttle them. I take a step back, i asked them. Walk me through how it would go differently . You dont want someone so as the top whos the alternative . Yes, its a Chatter Class constancy. This is really bigger than the Chatter Class. This is what we have to wrap our minds around. The American People are being polled, they are being asked the question. Folks in the bubble because wanted it pretended to big moment big pop in the hoods, whether its raw, urban russell bourbon, who have questions about the president s age, his health, of the economy. Its their right to ask those questions. What the Democratic Party must do is not dismiss what theyre asking, but to prove that this president deserves another term. They actually have the, right and responsibility to ask, they also need to listen to the answers. Truth of the matter is two answers . Yours . The truth of the matter is, joe biden is 80. Donald trump is 77. We should already about whether that should be the choice between the two parties, thats whats gonna be in front of us. If your fathers 80, and your mother 77, even say dad maryland or woman. These are the same people. When it comes to health, weve had one president who came within an inch of his life to covid. Another one who walks with a different gate. And what we see is what we get. It doesnt go and do cartwheels behind the scenes. Its an anxiety. It might be legit, it is legit. People have to be open to hearing the answers. Its legit. Dont you agree . Its legit for them to ask those kind of concerns. Absolutely. The census data shows right on the childhood poverty has increased by over 12 . Over the last year. That anxiety, so, if we have poor children, we means we have poor families. That means report communities. Let me just i want to raise one more thing for both, well start with you, nina. Weve discussed earlier, we heard what Speaker Pelosi said about the Vice President , Kamala Harris. She is factoring into this in a way that is very unusual. Nina, what do you make of the fact that voters seem to be lessened through siesta key about her to . And that republicans have decided thats gonna be the issue that they run on here . Republicans are dealing with a culture war here. Ill put that in the parking lot. There is no doubt that the Vice President s enduring some things that others have not had to endure. One is gender, the others race. Those two factors are true. And, it is also true, there are Policy Differences. Policy differences between republicans and democrats, certainly, Policy Differences within the Democratic Party. Those of us who are freedom fighting progressives dont rock well with neoliberals. Those things, all of those things, can be true at the same time. Let us not forget, in 2020, the current Vice President had to drop out of the race because she was not going to win her own state. Its not as though some of these anxieties are not brandnew. They were there when she was running in 2020. Without a doubt, race and gender to play some role. I want it on the percent, definitely there. All right, Felipe Rightness and nina turner, thank you both for interesting discussion. Thank you. Also tonight, a new explosive words from senator mitt romney about his own party. 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