Look suspicious enough, and different enough that there might be a chance and we see the objects that are white, orange, red, blue, and all of these have been marked and the ships will try to locate them, because it is one thing to take a picture from the airplane, but another to have them, and have the experts s take a look at them see if there is a connection to the flight 370. We just dont know. Thank you, will ripley. Joining me is aviation analyst miles obrien, and cnn aviation analyst rob mccallum as well. And let me start with you, rob. Are there search areas that are easier to find . Well, there are things that are easier to see like notsom, and things that are buoyant and collect together, but the real hit s a hits are the things like a tail or a wing tip, and in the case of flight 447, it was the wing tip that was easier to spot. And you saw the objects there the crews pulled out of the water there, and not too much speculation, but does it look too much like an aircraft there . Well shgs s, it is hard to t. To me, we were initially talking before the break, that it was currency to me, but it could very well be one of the seatback, you know, exit manuals. It is possible. That or a magazine, page from a magazine or anything. Yes, and it which still could be a part of the airplane. Really . Well, a magazine may be, you know, inflight magazine may be attributed to that particular airlines. And miles, you know, new search area, calmer waters and easier to reach, and is this going to help the crews get more done in the daytime that they have except for the weather, because they are up against the weather as well. Well, you have a doublewhammy and you have to worry about the sea state of course, and this is better, because they are not in what is the roaring 40s and the most treacherous waters in the world, and they have moved north in latitude, and that is going to help quite a bit, but when you are flying with low visibility, and the low ceiling, there is no way around it, and you have to have visual contact, and it is not like you can use infrared technology, and it is not like there is something warmer than the sea itself, and you have to see it with optical enhancement or the human eye, and that is limiting. And so, miles, again, as we look at the objects, right, and we dont want to call them debris, because we dont know what it is, but it could be anything, because it is a great lesson on anything that is the trash in the ocean, because we dont know what it is, and just how unclean, shall we say that the ocean can be. Yes, i have been thinking a lot about the 2004 tsunami, and i wonder if it is some of the, you can imagine the huge amount of debris put into the ocean then, and the way that the ocean currents go, and what we are seeing in the southern site might well be attributable to the it is just going to swirl around there for nearly forever. And rob mccallum, and miles bringing up a very good point as you have been searching, and you have done searches before, and dealt with this, and again, we dont know what it is, but initially, initially, what happens when crews find things like this . I am sure that there is initial excitement, and they are excited about getting it back and then all of the sudden, the real work starts in the laboratory, i would imagine . Well, the real work will start at sea in terms of plotting the position of all of the items recovered and what is important is what item was recovered at which place. So, you know, as i have said before some items are propelled by the current, because they are fairly well submerge and the other items are propelled by the wind and the waves because they float on top of the water like a seat cushion for instance. But if you plot all of the things on to a chart, that will start a pattern, and that will aid the ocean og ographers wheny run the initial exercise to go back to the single point of impact. Les . Well, the question i have is whether the Investigation Team is permitting the because they are part of the effort whether they are permitting the chinese to give out the information, because so much that is misleading to the, you know, to the poor folks that are the families of the passengers, so i am wondering if they know what it is, and they are waiting to confirm it. I think that would be a smart mo move. And miles, as someone has said here earlier, so much misinformation coming out, and what we need to come out with, the families need, but what the families need right now is for the next bit of information to come out to be solid rather than speculative, and i think that les brings up a good point fit is indeed something or nothing, i imagine they would be holding it close to the vest to figure it out exactly . Well, that is fitting the pattern, because they tend to hold a lot of information close to the vest and certainly more than any investigation that would be occurring here in the nsh ntsbled here in the states. And that is cultural, but clearly, if they have made a confirmation, they will have to let the world know pretty quickly here. All right. Guys, stick around, because i need to get to some developing news just into cnn, and it is in southern california. Southern california went to bed last night and woke up this morning to multiple earthquakes, but it did not end there. Just a couple of hours ago, another aftershock rocked the area, with a magnitude 4. 1 centered in the Roland Heights area of l. A. County, and all started with the last nights 5. 1 quake in Orange County near la habra and joining us is stephanie elam, and stephanie, this quake, it woke people up in the middle of the night, and now another one. Yes, and the one last night, don, you know, even my daughter was still awake, and it was not that late. But it was definitely enough to know that it is definitely a quake. It was a long rolling one, and when you are a californian, you know the difference. And the one today, was a jolting one, but i was out Walking Around and i did not feel that one today, but overall, 100 or so earthquakes sense yesterday, and many of them are really small, and not as big, and the biggest one being that one in the evening last night, and people are spookd, because it has been a long time since there has been a sizable earthquake in southern california. I know that people like to think of us shaking and quaking all of the time, but it is not always that pronounced. So there seems to be a lot of movement as of late, and a good reminder for people out here to get reprepared, because they say that all of the activity could be a precursor to something much bigger, and obviously, we go to the quakes most of the time, and we have them all of of the time, and we dont always feel them, don. And we saw the one last week where the news anchors were on television, and everybody talked about it, because it frightened them as well. But so far though, no serious injuries to e repoy s ties to r stephanie . Right. Maybe some damage yesterday with some basements that fell and broke or that sort of damage. But small structural, but i thought today while there is a shelter that opened up near the epicenter of yesterdays earthquake, it shutdown today, and everybody went back home. And nothing huge. For californians a 5. Something earthquake is noticeable, but it is not a wig thing out there, and it is understanding the levels of when it is a really big deal, and it can cause the drama. But a lot of the buildings out here are prepared and shorn up for earthquakes and that is one good thing that the buildings are prepare and if we could just get all of the californians prepared adds well. Thank you, stephanie elam. Thank you. I want the panel to the stick around, because we are going to be talking later this hour about the missing flight 370. And first, are remember the pictures from a year ago air France Flight 447, and another plane that was on radar and then suddenly, it wasnt. So will anything change . That is the question coming up. Are you still sleeping . Just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. The First Technology of its kind. Mom and dad, i have great news. Is now providing answers families need. Siemens. Answers. 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When air France Flight crashed into the atlantic ocean, it took two years to find the flight data recorders and back then we asked if it would change the way that the airlines keep tabs on the planes so it would not happen again, and here we are again, wondering if this is going to change anything. Will it be business as usual after flight 370 or will we see new technology to track planes . We have Steve Wallace with us, a cnn analyst, and accident investigator, and steve, aside from the technology and the upgrades here, what should the airlines do differently to keep their planes staf . Well, i think that we will see, don, a combination of the simply applying what are already the best practices, but applying them universally across the Worlds Airlines as well as new technology, and focusing on three areas. One is preventing the accident, and what comes to mind very quickly here sh, and not that te is a connection to the accident d demonstrated, but this airline apparently did not scan the passports against the interpol database, and we have no connection to the accident at this point, but they were very lax apparently about access to the cockpit, so, in this country, like the ntsb is the main lead of making the recommendations, and they will not wait for the probable cause to be determined. If they see an area for improvement, they will make a recommendation right away. So the focus, and when you started on is that we lost track of the airplane. Well, certainly, the requirement that an airplane continuously report the altitude and the position, a nd tnd that that capability be up able to be disabled, and you know, you cannot turn that off, i think that we will certainly see that, and that could be done easily with what is on the aircraft already. Just modifying it so it cannot be disabled by anyone. Or it could be an additional piece of equipment. And, you know, if you like, we could talk about the conduct of the investigation and particularly the caring for the families in this horrible situation. Okay. Very good points, all three of t the points there. And so the question is that when you said that it is going to be some overall sort of universal access of what to do to make the airplanes safer across the world, you said, lets talk about how Many Americans are wondering how safe am i on a jetliner after this . Obviously, it could happen anywhe anywhere, but on the american jetliner, are our planes as safe as they could be . Well, i will tell you that i was the scorekeeper at the faa until a few years ago when i left, and we count fatal tis per 100 Million People carried, and after world war ii that number was about 1,400, and in the 50s, it got down the 500, and in the 90s down to 50, and in the last five years in the united states, it is below one. So flying is so incredibly safe. So, you know, this is obviously a frightened, frightening set of circumstances, and people who have anxiety about flying, this certainly cant help, but statistically flying in the entire developed world is extremely safe. And steve, we thought it was impossible now, but ow soon do we get to the point where, and im sure that the technology exists, and the technology installs to make a disappearance like this impossible. Well, i think that we can certainly, the tracking equipment is easy. I mean, a back paccer, and you cant put anything on the plane inexpensively because the approvals are so complex, but a backpacker can buy a device for 150 that can track him on the satellite, and the family can watch him on the internet. This technology is not complicated. Ultimately, don, we would be looki looking for telemetry where the data from the airplane is sent down constantly to the earth as it has been since 1981 to 2010 on the space shuttle, and limited parameters. There are issues of bandwidth and how the data may be used, but i think that they are all challenges that can be surpassed. Steve wallace, appreciate you, and thank you very much, sir. Thank you, don. Texts, emails and attempted phone calls to loved ones could still be on passenger cell phones and provide information about what might have happened if the plane is ever found. That data could be retrievable, and we will tell you how after this. 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Nationwide is on your side with so many questions of what happened to the people aboard flight 370, one certai y certainty, so many of them had the cell phones with them. And so did they try to send a goodbye email or phone message, and so in that the debris field, what would a cell phone under miles of water be able to give . Our ted rowland has some answers for you. Reporter paul weeks left his wife and son in australia to start a new job on board malaysian flight 370. And now the loved ones are w wondering if their loved ones tried to send a message before the plane went missing. With so many details missing, tex thets and emails could provide clues as to what happened. And all of that information could be retrieved. Absolutely. I am sure that there are Text Messages and drafts of emails and video testimonials that people made. Chad gough is an expert of phone technology, and he says that even months under water, texts and emails could be retrieved. It depends on how they were e retrieve and handling them properly. Reporter and it is just like a cell phone or computer would have to be left in water until it is ready to be analyzed and even if it is smashed, as long as the data cards are in tact, the data is there. And it is getting them out of the the salt water and keeping them wet and putting them in a special solution to dissolve the minerals and the salt and clean off the components. Reporter finding the devices is going to be likely the most difficult part of the recovery. It took two years to find france air flight a year ago. But if wreckage is found over the next few months, passenger texts, emails and video could help to solve the mystery of what happened on board and while also provide some grieving families a final message from a loved one. Ted rowlands, cnn, chicago. Lets take a closer look at how the technology would work. We have cnns money tech correspondent lori seigel. What can be retrieved . Well, so much. I was thinking if a phone is in the water for so long and how would you get anything off of it . I spoke to a Cell Phone Company called h11 and they told me what you would get. Longitude and latitude if they had gps and constantly looking for the signals and time line information and photographs and individu video and Text Messages and call history and email and social media and if someone was using facebook or trying tick ma a last call, and this is all information and go ahead and say, it is going to be very difficult to find the devices say in the middle of the ocean, but this is all information that could be available and could be recovered potentially. And we still dont know. Dont know. And one never knows and sometimes things pop up that you dont expect. And they would need some tech tools in order to get the information, and what do they need . Absubtly. When you look at samsung, apple and nokia, they have different ways of storing information and so, there are so many ways to extract information from a re really damaged device. A combination of tools. If you were to find a device in water for a couple of months, one big thing is transferring it to a place and not further damaging it so they have a siliconebased dehumidifier to allow you to do that. And then if there is a device with something really wrong with it, they have a chipoff technique which is what it sounds like. You take the chip, and clean it up, and then put it in a similar device, and then you can start to try to extract the data. It is will almost like a little bit of the puzzle, an manually putting together different types of data, and if you are these are all different photos of phones that have been actually really damaged and actually able to find lots of data on them, and so we will be able to find the devices, and sure, that is going to be really difficult, but if they were, there are different types of ways to get this data. And rob mccullum is here, and miles obrien listening, and miles, you are a tech the guru yourself, and what do you make of what laurie and ted rowlands is reporting here . Well, i am struck by the fact that there are more data in the phones potentially at the bottom of the ocean than the airplane, itself. And we are all used to the notion of being able to track down our phones electronically, and we assume that anybody can find us now, and the fact that this 777 has vanished, and it is a strange contradiction in all of it that needs to be addressed. And when the aviation says they will get around it to, we have to hold the regulatory agencies accountable. It never should have happened an frankly after 9 11 this should have happened, but certainly after air france 447 in 2009, and somebody should have said that we need better capability for tracking the airplanes, themselves, that would be equivalent to the cell phones that the passengers are carrying on board. Rob . Yes. Certainly possible that the phon