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United states and all around the world. Im rosemary church, and this is cnn newsroom. Well, u. S. Lawmakers expect to get their hands on the longawaited Mueller Report within a week. But the stage is set for a legal battle with the attorney general. William barr answered questions on capitol hill tuesday for the First Time Since the russia investigation ended. But as sara murray reports, democrats didnt get the answers they wanted. Reporter attorney general william barr telling lawmakers he will soon be ready to share special counsel Robert Muellers report. I think that from my standpoint, by within a week, i will be in a position to release the report to the public. Reporter but not the complete version democrats are clamoring for. I dont intend at this stage to send the full, unredacted report to the committee. Reporter barrs comments setting up a fight between congress and the Trump Administration over the fate of the Mueller Report. Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee already authorized a subpoena for the full report and its underlying evidence. So far, democrats havent moved forward with it, but that could soon change. I presume were going to get the redacted report within a week. When we do so, if we dont get everything, we will issue the subpoena and go to court. Reporter barrs resistance setting off a pointed exchange over 6e, the rule governing the release of grand jury material. That material is meant to be kept secret except in certain circumstances. Barr says this isnt one of them. I have to say that until someone shows me a provision in 6e that permits its release, congress doesnt get 6e, and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee is free to go to court if he feels one of those exceptions is applicable. Reporter instead barr says congress will only get explanations for the redactions. We will colorcode the excisions from the report, and we will provide explanatory notes describing the basis for each redaction. Reporter barr also under fire today for how he crafted his summary of muellers conclusions. All we have is your fourpage summary, which seems to cherrypick from the report to draw the most favorable conclusion possible for the president. Reporter barr acknowledged muellers team may have wanted more of their original wording included even as he defended his letter. I suspect that they probably wanted, you know, more put out. I felt that i should state the bottom line conclusions, and i tried to use special counsel muellers own language in doing that. Reporter only about 100 words in the fourpage letter were muellers. Barr added that mueller declined to weigh in on it. Mr. Muellers team did not play a role in drafting that document although we offered him the opportunity to review it before we sent it out, and he declined that. Reporter barr also acknowledged the white House Counsel was given a headsup about the initial summary sent to congress. We did advise the white House Counsels office that the letters were being sent, but they were not allowed or even asked to make any changes to the letters. Reporter but he refused to say whether the white house has seen the full report. Ive said what im going to say about the report today. Reporter even though bill barr made it clear he did not want to release any grand jury information, he sounded a little bit more willing to maybe make some of the classified Information Available at least to members of congress. He also said when he does release his version of the report, the redactions will be colorcoded, explaining the basis of why things are missing from the report. Sara murray, cnn, washington. Josh rogin joins me now, a cnn political analyst and a columnist for the washington post. Good to see you. Likewise. So attorney general bill barr says he will release a redacted Mueller Report to the public within a week, but refused to answer whether the white house had seen it. Why not just say yes or no . What does it signal when he avoids that question . And if the democrats issue a subpoena, will they ever get to see the full, unredacted report . Attorney general barr is doing what hes always done, which is giving congress only the information he believes he is directly obligated to give them, no more, no less. Thats his style. Its making democratic members of congress very unhappy. He shows no signs of altering it. That applies to when he talks about directions with the white house. It also applies to the details of what exactly these redactions will be and whether or not he will explain them once he hands them over. Whats clear is the democrats in congress have no intention of being satisfied by taking attorney general barrs word for this. So you can be sure that no matter what the redactions are, since he has promised not to give congress the full version of the Mueller Report, there will be a subpoena. Whether or not that subpoena is successful depends on the courts. That just means we dont know how its going to come out, but there will be a long, protracted legal battle. Why do you think Robert Mueller declined an offer to see bill barrs summary of his own report before its release . Does that make sense to you . It makes a lot of sense if youre Robert Mueller. His goal, his imperative is to stay out of the political fray and to maintain his own sense of independence. And not weighing in on the letter is the best way for him to avoid becoming entangles in the politics of this. Robert mueller is trying to avo avoid the mistakes that james comey made. When james comey crossed over from being a prosecutor into making political decisions. Robert mueller has learned the lessons of that, and why not let the administration and the political appointees take the heat for whatever it is they decide to do with congress. Robert mueller has done his job and hes standing by that. To immigration now, and President Trump is now blaming his family separation policy on barack obama and denying he has any plans to resurrect it. Lets just listen to what he said tuesday. Obama separated the children by the way. Just so you understand, president obama separated the children. Those cages that were shown, i think they were very inappropriate. They were built by president obamas administration, not by trump. President obama had child separation. Take a look. The press knows it. You know it. We all know it. I didnt have im the one that stopped it. Josh, lets factcheck that statement from the president. What is true and what is false . I mean its a grossly misleading depiction of events. Its true that during the Obama Administration, there were some instances of child separation. Its false that the Obama Administration made this into a policy. It happens to be a fact that the Trump Administration did expand the use of child separation, including by claiming that they believed it was a deterrent. And even today, as the president tries to publicly take credit for ending the policy, all of the reporting by several news organizations, including cnn, has shown that privately hes pushing for a reinstatement of the very policy hes criticizing publicly. So theres a lot of misdirection, a lot of misinterpretation, a lot of spin. But i think what youre seeing here is a struggle both inside the Trump Administration and around washington to figure out what the immigration debate is going to be heading into the 2020 election. The president knows he wants to run on this. I spoke to a senator just an hour ago who talked to the president about the situation. This senator told me the president is convinced that this is the issue that will get him reelected. The problem is he hasnt figured out what the policy is, and he hasnt figured out whats politically possible, and thats why were seeing this back and forth were seeing right now. Yes. We shall watch to see what he does in the end when it comes to this particular issue. A lot of people very concerned. Josh rogin, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Anytime. Well, the fight for Donald Trumps tax returns is heating up. The Trump Administration has until today to turn over six years of the president s business and personal tax returns. House democrats made the request to the Treasury Department last week. The head of that department, steve mnuchin, is now at the center of this fight. He testified before the House Financial Services committee on tuesday and said he consulted the white house on this issue but did not take direction from them. I have had no direct conversations with the president or anybody else in the white house about this. Our Legal Department has consulted with the white house as they would and as i believe would be normal. That is not taking direction from the white house. I dont view that as interference. It was not specific to the president s anything related to the president s tax returns other than the expectation of getting this request. And the treasury secretary ended his long day of testimony in a clash with a top democrat on the Financial Services committee. Steve mnuchin and Maxine Waters got into a verbal sparring match when mnuchin requested to end the hearing because he had another meeting. Take a listen. Ive sat here for over three hours and 15 minutes. Ive told you ill come back. I just dont believe were sitting here negotiating when i come back. Well follow up with your office. How long would you like me to come back for next time . Ive told you im accommodate you. I appreciate that, and i appreciate your reminding us of the length of time other secretaries have been here. This is a new way, and its a new day, and its a new chair, and i have the gavel at this point. If you wish to leave, you may. Can you clarify that for me . Yes. Clarify is this. If you wish to leave, you may. Okay. So were dismissed. Is that correct . If you wish to leave, you may leave. I dont understand what youre saying. Youre wasting your time. Remember, you have a foreign dignitary in your office. I would just say that the Previous Administration when the republicans, they did not treat the secretary of the treasury this way. So if this is the way you want to treat me, then ill rethink whether i voluntarily come back here to testify, which i have offered to do. Mr. Secretary, i want you to know that no other secretary has ever told us the day before that they were going to limit their time in the way that youre doing. So if you want to use them as examples, you have acted differently than they have acted. And as i have said, if you wish to leave, you may. If youd wish to keep me here so that i dont have my important meeting and continue to grill me, then we can do that. I will cancel my meeting, and i will not be back here. I will be very clear. If thats the way youd like to have this relationship. To the middle east now and the race to be israels next Prime Minister is too close to call with more than 90 of votes counted. Incumbent Benjamin Netanyahu and his likud party are hovering at around 26 . The Prime Minister may have an edge forming a governing coalition, but hes in a virtual tie with his main challenger, benny gantz and the blue and white party. Its been a hard fought election and both candidates have claimed victory. So lets get some more on this. Turn to cnns Michael Holmes who joins us live from jerusalem. Good to see you again, michael. So as weve been reporting, both netanyahu and gantz claiming victory, but netanyahu does appear to have the edge here when it comes to forming a viable governing coalition. But it isnt over yet, is it . Reporter no, it certainly is not. And in fact, rosemary, it could be days before all of this is sorted out. You did have that bizarre situation last night where you had benny gantz, of blue and white. We were there at his Campaign Headquarters claiming victory and then Benjamin Netanyahu across town doing exactly the same thing not long after. One of them is going to be right. And, yes, netanyahu appearing to have the easier path. Youve got israels tv channels 12 and 13 saying the right has a 6555 seat advantage. That makes assumptions of course on which parties will go with the main party. Not every party has made its position clear at the moment. If youre benny gantz, youre going to be trying to get defections from smaller parties on the right that are more aligned with netanyahu. It could happen. Deals can be done. But its a long shot, and at the moment you would probably put your money on netanyahu being the one whos going to be able to cobble together a coalition, but nothings written in stone. It most certainly isnt. So once all the votes are counted, whats the next step in this pretty complicated process of forming a viable governing coalition . How will it all work . Reporter yeah. It is complicated. One thing is we still dont know which parties are going to end up with the required 3. 25 of the vote to make the cut and get seats. We should know that within the next day or so. But when it all shakes out, what happens here is the president , hes going to ask a delegation from each party who they think has the best chance of forming a government. Now, that might not even happen until the weekend perhaps by the way, but after he consults each party, then the president , hes got then seven days to do the math himself, work out who he thinks has got the best chance, and then ask that person to come back and accept the job of forming a government. Then the clock starts ticking. That person then has, whether its benny gantz or it is Benjamin Netanyahu, hes got 28 days to form a government. Potentially the whole process before we get a swearingin ceremony of any kind could take weeks potentially. It really is quite extraordinary how close this has been just watching the whole thing. Of course youre there right where its happening. Thank you so much, michael. Lets take a short break here. Still to come, if you thought the brexit roller costar was nearing the end of the track, buckle up. Eu leaders may want to go around again for another year. Well take a look at that when we come back. W do you get skin y 24 7 . 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European Council President donald tusk is expected to propose a flexible extension of up to one year so british lawmakers can agree on a brexit deal. Of course there will be strings attached. Among them, france wants to limit britains influence in the eu in the interim. Cnn has correspondents covering developments across the continent. Isa soares is in london this hour, and melissa bell joins us live from brussels. Isa, lets start with you. The european Council President s proposal to offer this longer extension and allow the uk to leave the eu once a deal is agreed upon would of course take some pressure off Prime Minister may although she did favor a shorter extension. What are the brexiteers likely to think about all this and the likely conditions that will be attached . Reporter and that, i think, is critical. Good morning to you, rosemary. The conditions, the length of the extension will depend very much on the reaction. But let me give you a sense of how the morning newspapers have reacted to a potential extension. The daily mail going with another year in limbo. Thats how theyre seeing this in terms of negotiations. And ive got the guardian here. Mays hoped dashed. Some of the papers already seeing this as a loss for theresa may. But of course as youve pointed out, that will give theresa may more time for negotiating, no cliff edge thats further, further away, giving her more time to reach some sort of consensus and break the deadlock and the impassion here e becaus crucial cross party talks with Jeremy Corbyn, talks that have been going on for five days or so. They have been constructive, but so far it seems that theresa may hasnt budged on her red lines. Wor Jeremy Corbyn wants to see a customs union, something we know the conservative party is vehemently against. In terms of the extension, what we know for sure is theresa may will be going in to the meeting later on today and shell be asking for an extension to june the 30th. The point is that if a deal would get agreed before that, before the European Parliament elections, then they dont have to take part, which is something we know her party also does not want. She wont be going in with a plan because there isnt one, rosemary. But she will be going in with a process, telling european leaders, this is what ive been able to get. This is what im doing right now in the crossparty talks. Although thats a great weight off her shoulder, theres a huge caveat. It depends on the proposals, the length of the extension. If its longer t

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