He says the meeting totally legal done all the time in politics but according to the email that special Counsel Robert Mueller has, this was a meeting to get information from the prosecutor of Russia On Hillary ClinHillary Clintons campaign. How is that legal . The question is how is it illegal . A meeting of that nature constitute a violation of the law . Now critics have pounced on this, anna, suggesting that the president and his legal team are moving the goal posts despite calls for this investigation to wrap up by the president and his attorneys. We did get an indication last week that special Counsel Robert Mueller is trying to zero in and get an interview with one of the key figures that was involved in that june 2016 meeting at trump tower. Hes a russian pop star. His father is actually an oligarch with deep ties to putin. Sources indicate that for more than a year now the Special Counsel is working to secure that interview. Unclear if it actually does take place. It will be interesting to see how that wrinkle of this investigation plays out. Boris sanchez, thank you. Lets dig into this more now with cnn senior political analyst david gergen. Im always glad to have you on our show. The reason jay said trump wasnt involved in drafting his sons statement is because he had bad information. Is he basically saying his client, the president , wasnt even honest with him to begin with . There are so many things strange about this, anna. I think we start with a proposition that this goes back to the old truism from watergate. The coverup is often much worse than what may have occurred, whatever crime may have occurred. In this case, the constant evolution, Constant Changing Of Evolution of this story coming
know, came out to the podium when it was clear that there was a smoking gun and nixon lied all along. You know, he said all previous statements from the podium were inoperative. Inoperative. You knew at that moment this presidency is done. I dont think donald trump is anywhere near that line. Thats not what im trying to argue now. What i would say is this tower meeting achieved a significance far beyond what it first appeared to have. There are other mixed messages about the president and russias election interference, just the heart of the issue and the heart of the investigation where it all began. The president still calling it a russia hoax. When he talks about the hoax, he is saying the fantasy, the campaign i manage for the successful part of the campaign was in cahoots with russians. I think what hes saying about it hoax is the idea that
the russians directed and controlled his campaign or directed control his administration that there was some conspiracy or some violation of u. S. Law in 2016. David, why hasnt the president been that specific if its as simple as that . I dont think its true. The argument is not being made that russians somehow controlled his campaign. The argument is whether the russians attempted to influence it and whether the Russians Interfeared in the National Security people have all now come out unanimously to say that they have. The president is impulsive and wants to be the bold one. He pushes this envelope. I dont think the lawyers take a second seat behind this in their they try to make the best statements they can given the given very odd and unusual circumstances. But to say the least. The Security Adviser, his counsellor, david, i want you to stay with me. I want to talk about attacks on journalists and what it is like to hold people in power accountable. Stay with us. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Feel the compulsion. New Shine Compulsion from maybelline new york. Hydrating oilinlipstick. Color so saturated. Shine so irresistible. Feel the compulsion. Maybellines new Shine Compulsion. Only from maybelline new york. Well, esurance makes it simple and affordable. In fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of 412. Thats auto and Home Insurance for the modern world. Esurance. An allstate company. Click or call. Paying too much for insurance that isnt the right fit . Well, esurance makes finding the right coverage easy. In fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of 412. Thats auto and Home Insurance for the modern world. Esurance. An allstate company. Click or call. Woman it felt great not having hepatitis c. Its like a load off my shoulders. I was just excited for it to be over. Harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of Chronic Hepatitis c. Its been prescribed to more than a quarter Million People and is proven to cure up to 99 of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. Certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. Before starting harvoni
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there are 7 1 2 mistruths a day and the president is telling that you it is the media that is really misleading you. They can make anything bad. They are the fake, fake disgusting news. His messaging seems to be having an impact. A recent cbs poll found that among Trump Supporters, 91 say they trust the president to give them accurate information. Just 11 say that of the mainstream media. Lets talk more about it with david gergen who is back with us. David, what do you see as the impact of the president s 4,000 plus misleading or false statements . He is a viable source in o politics and he can win reelection. He is exploiting it for the own
purposes. He is damaging the presidency and become a real threat to First Amendment rights. That when he was sworn in as president , he took an oath to promote and defend the constitution, the Constitutional Rights of all american citizens and the First Amendment that definitely includes journalists. I must tell you that i think a lot of what he says is just obnoxious. He has given the people the phrase enemy of the people. That phrase has a storied history. It goes all the way back to the French Revolution in the late 18th century. A bloody revolution in which if you were found and declared to be an enemy of the people, you were headed to the guillotine. Violence followed. Im telling you, when mr. Salsberger went in to Seat Publisher of the new york times, what he warned him is mr. President , please understand calling people enemy, calling journalists enemy of the people really can lead to violence. And thats the danger here. That blood will be on the president s hands. He sent out today about the media, david. He writes the fake news hates me saying that they are the enemy of the people. Only because they know its true. Im providing a Great Service by explaining this to the american people. They purposefully caused Great Division and distrust. They can also cause war. Theyre very dangerous and sick. Well, see, that takes it even a step further. And the enemy of the people can cause war . What are we talking about here . I do think the president has a point that he is that a lot of his accomplishments are not making it through the country. Hes not getting credit for a lot of that. Because a lot of the coverage has been, you know, has been negative. And we all sort of try to weigh on what is right here. One of the reasons the president that coverage has been so negative is because of his antics, because of the lies. Going back to that Washington Post study of his lies and misleading statements over 7 1 2 decades, the pace of that is doubled in the last few months. Over what it was last year. So its gotten worse. And, you know, i think that is, you know, that is very, very problematic. I will tell you that he cant get through the fog very well. What our best president s, most memorable president s have done is strike up a respectful relationship with the press. Youre never going to get all positive press. Thats just hopeless. You shouldnt get all positive press. You should be judges fairly. But if you go back and look at the president s we remember Teddy Roosevelt and john kennedy and ron reagan, all of them had very, very positive relationships with the press. And they were respectful and that is possible to do. Look, i work for reagan on the communications side. People say hes never going to get a fair break from the press because the press is too liberal. He is too conservative. Theyre always going to beat him up. That simply was not the case. Reagan had a very, very good relationship. A democrat wrote a book about the press relationships with reagan and called it on bended knee. He was very angry and was angry that press wasnt tough enough. But reagan understood that truth matters. If you have a truthful respectful relationship, the presidency works better, the country works better and youre more successful at governance of this great country. I dont understand why you cant be convincing of your
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immigration policy. She is the mother of two kids both u. S. Citizens and now a florida congressman is waging a battle to bring her back to the u. S. This is the woman on friday at the Orlando Airport moments before her tearful goodbyes to her loved ones and moments before she and her daughter boarded her flight back to mexico. Joining us now is congressman darren soto, a democrat representing the district where w juarez lived. Why was there an order for her removal . Why was she deported . It started with an innocent traffic stop a few years ago. But it was trumps Zero Tolerance policy that broke the family up. You know, she was is the wife of a marine veteran who served in iraq and Northern Africa during that time period she raised two beautiful daughters. It was an emotional scene this week at the airport. Because one daughter has to now go back to Mechl Keen Txico and
remains with the father. We have a family separated with no justice being served. All it was was tragedy. And obviously, our community is outraged. Now i understand she did have a Removal Order that stemmed from an incident in 1998 in which she was deported, had signed some paperwork saying she wouldnt come back into the country. And yet, she did. And so that ultimately was against the law. Created the legal jeopardy situation she was in which she was deemed a criminal and thats why they followed through. Did that make sense to you . Well, certainly that was the justification. But prior administrations including the Obama Administration had given her extensions, deemed her low priority. This is the perfect case where both parties can come together and come up with a solution. They could have simply given her a further extension or a future
administration would finally do the job of giving her residency. But what we saw is just a major blow to the military and its major blow to our community as were still sitting here suffering from this family being ripped apart. You tried to stop her deportation by introducing legislation in support of the family and other military spouses facing deportation. Why where does your legislation stand . We filed a private bill. We also filed major legislation giving spouses of marine veterans and veterans in general that as grounds of country. Its no secret that congress is divided on immigration and has not moved. The real point of the bills and letters in bipartisan fashion were to put pressure on ice to simply give her extensions to be able to stay. And they chose under the Zero Tolerance policy to divide this country. Literally split the family in half and it was just a really
emotional scene this week as cameras circles the family, as they had to break apart and the younger daughter has to go back or is now back in mexico with the marine veteran father is still in poke county along with the eldest daughter. So why did they do that . Why did they split up the two sisters . The one daughter going back to mexico with mom and then the older staying with the father . The older one is still in high school and is able to take care of herself after school. Timo, The Marine Veteran Husband Works in the construction industry. So hes away for most of the day. It was a real practical matter that the younger daughter still being in grade school really needed to have an active parent around during the day. And so she ended up going back with alexandra to mexico to a country she knows neither the language flunltently or the cule well inform. Its going to be a tough situation for them. Yeah, and, of course, i want to give the viewers the context
that the father is a naturalized u. S. Citizen. As you point out, he has served this country in the military. He is decorated war hero. And the couples daughters are both american citizens as well. This story has really sparked strong reaction calling on the president to fix this. I know you have tried to appeal to the president by saying this is about supporting veterans. Do you think the president will act on this issue because of that . You know, im not very helpful. Were going to keep trying. But if there is the perfect case of where this Zero Tolerance policy is failing american families, its this case. This woman protected her family on the home front and protected freedoms abroad in combat and in iraq and in africa. If President Trump says he wants to protect military families, this is a prime example where he can do so. Real quick. Federal judge just on friday upheld the order that doca must be