You usually have an opinion on everything. How on earth do you not have an opinion on aid to americas cities and states. Mr. President , are you going to save new york city or are you telling new york city to drop dead . Which one is it . But you have to speak up now. Also this evening, frustration with social distancing rules is growing across the country. Protests popping up in states like california, texas, maryland, and wisconsin. Heres the house speaker. People will do what they do. But the fact is, were all impatient. We all want out. But what theyre doing is really unfortunate, because what is great, though, is the are the American People. The American People know that the good health of themselves and their families and their loved ones is what is important. And there is news for millions of americans out of a job or struggling to keep their business afloat. The treasury secretary says hes hopeful they are close to a second round of Small Business loans. After all, the initial relief money in that program ran out at the worst possible time. But first, to that growing showdown between the president and the nations governors over testing. The president blaming states for the shortage, but governors from both parties are criticizing him for trying to pass the buck. Jeremy diamond joins us from the white house now. Jeremy, what are they saying . Well, ana, as the president is shifting the blame to those governors, particularly pointing to democratic governors as it relates to the testing shortages across the country, we are hearing with governors speaking with one voice, both democrats and republicans making very clear that they do not have the Testing Capacity needed to begin to reopen their states, and that they need the federal governments help. To try to push this off to say that the governors have plenty of testing and they should just get to work on testing, somehow, we arent doing our job is just absolutely false. Thats just delusional to be making statements like that. We have been fighting every day for ppe and weve got some supplies now coming in. Weve been fighting for testing. It would be nice if we had a National Strategy that was working with the states, so every state knew precisely what was coming in. And as you can hear there, ana, there is a coherent message from those democratic and republican governors on the testing front. The president , though, as insisted that some of these governors are simply unwilling to actually ramp up the Testing Capacity. Something that those governors say is not at all the case. Instead, what theyre pointing to is shortages of critical equipment, from the testing swabs that they need, to the reagent, which is often sourced abroad in order to conduct more tests in their states. So far, the president seems to say, the buck is passing over to the states. Ana . And meantime, jeremy, do you believe the white house will perhaps announce that theyve reached a deal on Small Business funding at todays briefing. Well, things certainly seem to be trending in that direction. We heard the secretary of the treasury, steve mnuchin, as well as nancy pelosi, both this morning saying that they are very close to a deal. Secretary mnuchin even suggested that this new legislation could pass one house of congress tomorrow. And then the next the day after that. So by the middle of the week, you could be seeing this on the president s desk. Those negotiations, though, we are told, are still ongoing. There was this Sticking Point from democrats over some additional funding that they wanted beyond the Small Business loan portion of this. They wanted additional funding for hospitals, as well as for testing. They got the funding for hospitals and theyre still working on the on how much money is going to go towards testing. But on a Conference Call with senate republicans, the majority leader, mitch mcconnell, made very clear that they will not be getting the funding for state and local governments. That was an additional piece of funding that the democrats had been seeking. In fact, cory booker who we just spoke to said hes not ready to give up that fight just yet. Jeremy diamond, thank you. Joining us now, amid this showdown, new mexico governor michelle grichsham. Thanks for taking the time. Does new mexico have the Testing Capacity they would need to reopen . Those are important questions, but they dont sync up quite like that. The answer to the first part, testing. We have considerable capacity for testing. We are now going to be in what the cdc is identifying as a pilot state to raeeally ramp up and that means getting the supplies. We have any number of instruments,ve each of them t different reagents and different efforts, and it means having incredible amounts of Public Health personnel, so that you can have multiple testing sites. We have more than 50 operating in our state, often at any given time, statewide, so that we can actually we can run anywhere from 3,500 with the right supplies, we could run 6,000 tests a day in new mexico. So getting the supplies, having cooperation, having a real focus here, yes. The second thing is, i need to know, because im ramping up testing, what is going on. What were looking for is prevalence and transmission data. What percentage of the population is asymptomatic . Once we have that, then you can make economic recovery decisions and of course, were desperate to do just that. So you said you have significant Testing Capacity and ability right now, but then, you also said, getting the supplies you need as part of all of this, do you have all of those supplies right now, or you still missing pieces that would help to boost the testing and make sure its widespread enough to be able to rope your state . Its a bit of both. We have been i think were the in the top nine states for the amount of testing weve done well over 35,000 tests in the state. But when you look at that, and its 2 of the population, its still insignificant. So i spend an inordinate amount of my time, and i know you hear this by all the governors, ive become a reagent expert. And im on a firstname basis with folks at roche and abbott. Were now looking at a highvolume, highcapacity machine, which means it runs 500 or a thousand samples at once, but can do them in a rapid fashion. So faster than four hours. Faster than eight hours. Can do it in 45 minutes. And that cooperation with the federal government. If im not chasing supplies, then im analyzing data. I know exactly whats missing. I can help my team stand up instruments in any number of labs across the state. And were rocking and rolling. But you have to have that coordination. And that has been missing. And im very interested to see how this pilot operation is going to work. Because, frankly, to your point, why are we all competing . Why is the governors, were federal government with the federal government, the federal government says now that its frustrated with governors. Ill tell you what new mexicans want. They want a simple, productive, straightforward strategy that tells them they can be safe, that can stand up and protect Health Care Workers and first responders, and theres a plan to go back to work. And if we arent working together, none of that will happen. We have to manage now this virus. Its here. This notion that you can stop it or control it, you can manage it. Information is power. Im working diligently to put this state in the drivers seat, to manage this virus productively. This week, new mexico, i know, recorded its highest number of daily deaths. When do you expect to reach your peak in new mexico . So our current modeling, and of course, as you know, it changes literally every day, because we put real, you know Realtime Data into our modeling system. We expect that the surge happens still at the end of april. And weve done an effective job statewide bending the curve. It so looks like midmay, later in may is when we should expect a peak. That could shift and were preparing to, you know, stay the course to the highest degree possible. Because heres what were also seeing. While were bending the curve as a state, thats not happening in our minority and rural communities. Where were seeing significant, right, transmission rates, doubling every day and a half, two days, in some communities, in some days, 50 of our positive cases are in our sovereign nations. That is something we have to get our arms around. And we are working on a brandnew relationship with Indian Health service, so that were actually running the tests, so theyll help us collect samples, but if were running the tests, i can tell pueblos and tribes in four hours how many individuals are positive and we can do Community Containment and selfisolation strategies that are much more robust than they would be if were waiting five days. So you continue to say, the testing is the key. We keep hearing, the testing is what has to come first in order to move to the next step. Youve already extended the states stayathome order until april 30th. But im hearing you say, you dont even think you will have reached the states peak of coronavirus case and the peak of this crisis by then. So are you planning to start lifting restrictions on may 1st, or can you residents expect another extension of the stayathome order. Well, to give you and many new mexicans a sense of that, some of our largest cities have extended their Emergency Powers and orders through the middle of may. We are making that decision in the next couple of days, but look, if you want to manage the virus and make sure that youre keeping people safe, the notion that you can lift all of your restrictions before you peak means that that peak is going to be much worse, more severe, and more salespeople wipeople will. So ill stay the course to keep people safe in the state. But i hope in the next week or so, im going to have more prevalence and Surveillance Data that will put us in the drivers seat to balance these two issues. Keeping people safe, which i dont look for a balance there. Thats a very clear north star. I dont want anymore people dying. I want to protect my Health Care Workers and my hospital capacity. And i want to manage this virus. But without Surveillance Data, i could never make a reasonable economic decision. We should be in a position shortly to be able to do both. But, yes. Unless my peak data shifts, it doesnt look like new mexico is ready on may 1st. Okay, governor, Michelle Lujan grisham, we will be in touch with you and continuing to send our best wishes and strength your way. So that new mexico can get through it, as well as anybody. Thank you very much for taking the time. Thank you for everything that youre doing, which leans in and provides good information to americans and viewers about the severity of this deadly virus and about the impacts that we can all have if we work better together. Thank you. Were doing the best we can. Thank you. New yorks governor says the state will begin aggressive Antibody Testing this week to see if people actually have the virus. 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Antibodies are proteins, developed by your body when youre infected with a virus like covid19, to fight it off. If youve recovered from coronavirus, your antibodies remain and give your immune system a memory of the virus. So if you get exposed to coronavirus a second or third time those antibodies that are floating around in their blood will recognize that virus and hopefully neutralize it. So how can testing as many people as possible to determine who has antibodies against coronavirus and who doesnt help get the economy open again . First, by testing people individually and clearing them to return to work. Whether or not this person can end social distancing, maybe this person should be a frontline worker, because theyve got antibodies to it. But also by testing a whole community or at least getting a representative sample. Antibody testing in a community might tell you that your community was hit pretty hard with this coronavirus and theres lots of herd immunity, meaning lots of people were exposed and this virus is unlikely to find that many victims in your community anymore. Reporter but right now, antibody tests are not the Silver Bullet that will get americas economic engine humming against, at least not as fast as President Trump wants it to. One reason is because according to one Public Health advocate, a lot of antibody tests that have been tried out have been unreliable. The danger in these tests, if you dont understand the quality, is that it could give you a false positive, could give you a false negative. You dont know the accuracy of it and you could really put people in danger by giving them the wrong information. You could let people go back to their lives when, in fact, theyre still infected. Another problem is there are not enough antibody tests available, although dr. Fauci and others say they are trying to get them to the marketplace as soon as possible. The fda has not yet approved any antibody tests, but the agency is expediting its review process in order to get the tests to the public as soon as possible. Still, it could be weeks or even months before the tests are widely available. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Joining us now to d. C. , dr. Gee geebumi and dr. Ivan walks, the former health chief officer for washington, d. C. Dr. Walks, let me start with you. Because the new york governor in his announcement today says they will actually prioritize the Antibody Testing and he does say the fda has approved now these tests theyre planning to use in new york, but theyll do that followed by the diagnostic testing. Does that make sense to you . I think ana, first of all, thanks for having me. And i think that the challenge is that you have to use what you can use. We are seeing so many different stories about what tests are available and when theyre going to be available. And what i like about what the governor of new york has said is hes said, this is what were going to do. Wow, its a clear message with a clear strategy. Is it optimum . Should we be doing the other testing first . This is someone who has said, this is what we have and this is what were going to do. And for so many communities, its refreshing to have that clear message and a clear strategy. I think a lot of people are wondering, can i get a test . Governor cuomo says this testing is going to be, quote, random. That you cant requested to be tested. So how do you see this working . I would have to ask the governor how the governor sees it working. I think that when youre saying to people that its going to be random and you cant ask for a test, and at the same time, youre saying that the illness is hitting different communities differently, im a man of faith and i hold on to that in the middle of a lot of this. What i see is a concern from communities that were getting hit the hardest and i cant ask for a test. Are you going to prioritize my community . Am i going to be the ones that you look at . People who are on the front lines are asking, are you going to prioritize us . Are we going to be the ones that are going to get the kind of help that there are a lot of questions and then theres washington, d. C. Theres mayor bowser working as hard as she has to if she were running a state, but shes not. Shes running a city. So she hasnt even in a lot of these co