On your left, Donald Trump Campaign chair and donald trump pick for white house chief of staff, Reince Priebus. The latter representing party establishment. The former representing not just the outsiders but the fringe, really. These hires leaving donald trump with just under 4,000 executive branch positions to fill, but over the weekend he took time out to talk to z60 minutes about a range of issues including, yes, the wall. Are you really going to build a wall . Yes. Theyre talking about a fence in the republican congress. Would you saa fence . For certain areas. For certain areas a wall is im very good at this. It could be some fencing. My cnn colleague Phil Mattingly joining me from washington. Tell us first, phil, what the president elect is doing today . Reporter its all about transitions in said in jest, only about 4,000 more positions to fill. A very real issue and frankly a very real problem for a Transition Team coming off an election they expected to win. Try being one they werent sure about winning. A fullon blitz. Talking about the two premiere positions, chief of staff and chief strategist. Time to go up and down the list inside the white house, internal positions, deputy chiefs of staffs senior advisers across the board and then move into the cabinets. Each different cabinet way Transition Team assigned to it. What theyre going through now. You can look at people walking inside and out of trump tower. Steve mnuchin, definitely under consideration for perhaps treasury secretary and people like Kellyanne Conway, obviously, Campaign Manager in the running for a number of different positions. Thats the focus now. Filling those positions. Once you get that done you can move on to bigger issues. Until you get that done youre restricted what you can do. You have steve bannon, many folks say, look, this is going to be Donald Trumps karl rove and i remember when rahm emanuel was chosen, signifying what want to get done with congress. Whats the reaction . Take Reince Priebus first. Youre not going to find a lot of people opposed to or upset about this pick in both parties. Because theres a recognition, Reince Priebus, never Held Elected Office understands how washington works, understand negotiating with congress and lawmakers and leaders, understands reality how to get things done in this town. Thats important. Even though donald trump ran an outsiders campaign, having him at his right hand is very important. Steve bannon. Less so in terms of enthusiasm both on the left and those being honest with you, republicans as well. Long a target for steve bannon. Paul ryan first among them. His influence inside the white house is drawing a lot of concern, ringing alarm bells and defended by trump advisers. Listen to what Kellyanne Conway had to say. I think its a great team and will continue to work close with them in some capacity to be decided. They complement each other, both have the most important thing which is the ear of the boss. And criticism of steve bannon because of breitbart and some of its articles and headlines. Whats the resporsponsresponse . Been the general of this campaign and frankly people should look at full resume. A Harvard Business degree a naval officer. He has success in entertainment. Im not sure youre aware of that and certainly was Goldman Sachs managing partner. Brilliant technician. Brianne narcs the defen, the hearing. A tightknit group that led donald trump to a very unexpected campaign victory. Every expectation those individuals would join him in the white house including steve bannon, no matter how controversial hes been. Phil mattingly, thank you so much. A lot more to talk about. Those who followed this election closely are familiar with steve bannon but hes not exactly a household name. Many probably heard that for the first time in august when donald trump hired him to help turned around his campaign. This was a pit that raised eyebrows, because of bannons ties to breitbart. A far right news organization. Senate minority leader harry reid was quick to sound the ala alarm. His spokesman, President Trumps nomination of steve bannon means White Supremacists will be in the highest levels in the trump white house. And this is a concern, because, brian stelter, you have people who say bright bart has become a form for the quote unquote alt right, old school, still repackaged White Supremacists, white nationalists, and there are many people concerned with what harry reid is saying that now there is that voice in the white house. This is not a normal president ial appointment and sometimes on cable news and newspapers all of these sorts of things seem alike. They all seem similar. This is not. This is not a normal president ial appointment. Steve bannon is not someone who would have been comfortable or fitting in, in a Bush White House or an obama white house. He wouldnt have fit into a democrat or a republican administration, goes to show how unusual this Trump Administration is. He is Reince Priebus on the one hand but steve bannon on the other. Kellyanne conway said look at this full resume. We should keep an open mind, but hes a platform for the alt right and some of what that stands for is despicable. Its important as we go along and talk about bannon to recognize this is not normal. A lot of people are not going to know who shhe is. There was a moment we saw him not talking but at a key moment in the campaign. This is right before the second debate. Oh, right. When donald trump had a press conference, there you see him right there. He had a press conference with bill clintons accusers. This was seen as a big political stunt. Also very unsettling, and i think i remember even the clinton folks were surprised that this happened, and you saw him there to witness this, and hes normally i mean, almost reclusive for someone who was an aide at the level he was at in the kpanchcampaign. Yes. How does he message, especially this elent vent, how does he message in the white house . Political dirty trickster. The fact we have individual grow there goes to show he does not do interviews. Normally not accessible. The one time i was able to speak with him during the campaign was because we on the same plane landing at one of the debates and talked how the campaign was going, talked about the rallies, that i had to go to the rallies to understand what americans were thinking nap was one subset of america. Hell be in trumps ear trying to ensure that trumps base is happy with the decisions made in the Trump Administration. He was right, though. The rallies did tell us even more than we knew, than many people knew, than eastern perhaps, Donald Trumps aides knew. Right. Brian stelter, thank you so much for that. And we have, of course, a lot to discuss with our Political Panel as well. We have jackie kucinich. Washington butch reau chief andx berns for the new york times. Both amal sis for us, and jackie, Reince Priebus. Hes defending bannon. Bannon is someone whos very different, of course, than Reince Priebus, but heres what priebus said. The white house chief of staff is always generally responsible for the day to day operation of the white house. Its a its an operations role but also an advisory role to the president. You know, the way weve operated last few months is steve and i have formed a Great Partnership in advising president elect trump together, and thats what it really is. I think youve seen especially over the last few months that donald trump has been very disciplined and also been very comfortable and on message and clearminded. So you look at these hires. Do they bridge the party divide . Do they aggravate it . Do they do both . I think the greatest way you could see that reflected is to the extent that the establishment republicans, the elected republicans, are ignoring the fact bannon is a part of this administration. Last night we started Getting Press releases reacteding to this selection of Reince Priebus and steve bannon, Steve Bannons name was suspiciously left off a lot of the congratulations on the emphasis it was on Reince Priebus. I think a lot of republicans would like to see bannon maybe sink further into the background, perhaps out of the white house, but theyre not going to have that chance. At the same time youve seen Republican Leaders today struggling to answer on why steve bannon, someone who has such a checkered his industry a part of this without and theyll have to continue doing that until they have a good answer, frankly. Alex, hes part of the white house because he was such an essential part of the campaign. You look at transition that this campaign made after donald trump jetsons paul man forte. Steve bannon was big part of that. Hes a big part of Donald Trumps success. Absolutely right. In some respect the kind of figure where the exact title probably matters less than it does for somebody like Reince Priebus who does need a certain kind of institutional legitimacy and sort of explicit authority to operate the machine of government in order to perform his role. If someone like steve bannon, and a number of people in the trump universe fall into this category. Someone like steve bannon frankly were skyle exiled from pous, he would still have Donald Trumps ear and be influential fop jackies point, reaction from folks on the hill, the establishment, folks concerned about passing a traditional conservative agenda look at these two appointments as the equivalent of having an arsonist and a firefighter in the white house together, and calling that balance. Theyre very concerned about what this kind of cocktail of personalities will look like. Some kind of metaphor. Jackie, i know you listen to dnt on s donald trump on 60 minutes. He sn he signaled a lot where he wants to go. He talked about obama care, talked about the wall. Seemed he was adding details that sort of back him off these signature issues . I think at this point you have to, you really do have to Start Talking about policy. You cant take away certain parts of obama care that fund other parts of obama care you agree with. His people will have to start digging into this along with the House Republicans and senate republicans. In terms of the wall, there are realities there sprup to fund this thing and cant just move money around always appropriated. Because its not going to be enough. The fact hes dialing back expectations. This is someone who fashions himself a master negotiator. Seems like, and he said this, at some point along the campaign trail, he was saying was a start and there might be room to maneuver within what hes already said. Its all about, alex what his supporters give him room to do. Will they see this as walking back promises . Trump probably has far more maneuvering space within his base than a president whos normally elected particularly one whos normally elected with, by a really, really small margin, losing the popular vote. Under normal circumstances, either party, an incoming president would feel i am on really, really thin ice and cant afford to slooz eve an sliver of support from my base. Weve seen, brianne narcs the last year and a half, really, trump can do an awful lot without losing much support from within his base of voter support. Alex and jackie, stick around with meep me. More ahead with you. Talking about obama care. Repeal and replace or amend it. What parts of the Affordable Care act does donald trump want to keep and who is directly affected by the overhaul . Whats the best way to get two servings of veggies . V8 or a fancy juice store . Ready, go hi, juice universe . One large rutabaga, with eggplant. Done thats not fair. Glad i had a v8. The original way to fuel your day. Does that mean they have to grow apart from their friends,s older or from the things they love to do . With right at home, it doesnt. Right at homes professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to help with personal care, housekeeping, meals and most of all, staying engaged in life. Oh, thank you, thank you. Youre welcome, are you ready to go . Oh, i sure am. We can provide the right care, right at home. The Trump Administration is taking shape in washington actually before our very eyes and ears. I want to bring back our panel. Jackie kucinich and alex berns. Something i want to talk to you about we have in now. Radio host Laura Ingraham under serious consideration for White House Press secretary. This was something that had been discussed here in recent days, and there had also been, we were hearing from sources, a need for a woman to be prominently placed in the administration. One of the more visible positions. So, jackie, when you look at this, what do you think about a pick like that, and, you know, what are you hearing how much in the running she is . Youre hearing a lot of names at this point, but she certainly has been a vocal supporter of trump and the conservative underdog. I remember she was really behind david bratt when he was facing off against eric cantor. She has, really, taken ricksks backing these folks. An interesting choice by the Trump Administration. Certainly someone who wouldnt be afraid to take it to us in the media as press secretary. Certainly, alex, look at the people discussed its very guyheavy, when you look especially when we dont know whether Kellyanne Conway will be a part of the administration or if shell stay as an outside adviser. Right. We havent heard from this transition or from the president looe elect the typical rhetoric, want to put together an administration that looks like america, or put together an administration where women and minorities are well represented. You can remember others making that clear. Important for Hillary Clinton if she had won. You have an unusual phenomenon unfolding where you have a president who was elected by an overwhelmingly White Coalition who will probably want to be building bridges outside of that coalition, if he wants to, you know, get out of the pit his poll numbers, favorability numbers are in. We havent seen a sign he plans to do that through appointments just yet. Talk about some of his policy proposals. Obama care, for instance. How much does he really plan to change . He was asked that by 60 minutes. Here the what he said. When you replace it, are you going to make sure that people with preconditions are still covered . Yes. Because it happens to be one of the strongest assets. Youre going to keep that . Also with the children living with their parents for an extended period were going to very much try and keep that. Adds cost, but its very much something were going to try and keep. And theres going to be a period, if you repeal it, and before you replace it, when millions of people could lose no. Were going to do it simultaneously. It will be just fine. And jackie, youve heard surrogates say another possible change would be opening up across state lines the ability to purchase insurance. You talked to democrats. They say, sounds fine to us. So whats really going on here . Because this doesnt sound like, this doesnt sound like a repeal. It sounds like tinkering around the edges, keeping things that are certainly very popular and theres nothing hes saying that is very alarming at this point to democrats . The thing is, its very hard to unring the fwhael is obama care. He talked about wanting to keep people who, the preexisting condition. The children who, on their Parents Health ircare until theyre 26. How the insurance system is structured right now has been changed, because of obama care. This is a very, very complicated sort of thing to unwind, and we havent really seen a grasp of that anywhere. Within the Trump Administration. Now, if they sort of throw a lifeline out to House Republicans and help them figure out the policy ins and outs of this, thats something that remains to be seen. Simply cutting off one thing without a way to pay for it, thats not how this works. Its too ingrained already in the health care system. What does that mean, alex, for supporters of donald trump, for a number of i mean i just think of Tea Party Republicans who came into power on the promise they were going to combat obama care . This has been their goal, to repeal this. So if they cannot deliver that, is that acceptable to them and also to republicans across the country . You know i dont think we know the answer to that and brianna, if you thought it was sloppy and messy and unsightly to get this law passed in the first place, as jackie was saying, try unwinding it. This is going to be one of these places you plight see real friction between donald trump and his distinctive base support and traditional ideological conservatives. A lot of the people in the midwest who crossed party lines just economically displaced, blue collar white voters are not necessarily people eager to see government benefits go away. You potentially do have really different shortterm political priorities between someone like trump, who does want to cheap coalition together and frankly has never really shown any particular enthusiasm for cutting government spending, and people like paul ryan and ted cruz who as you said, this h