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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin May 14, 2015

Well first of all, brooke youre not allowed to fly drones in d. C. Let alone around the white house. That is a restricted air space. What we can tell you here and we see a picture of this drone, the small uav that was used in this case. The secret service just releasing this statement basically saying that secret Service Uniformed Division Officers saw this man flying the u uav. He was then detained by secret service and instructed to land the small uav. The statement says that he did comply and the small uav was recovered in lafayette park. Of course that uav was swept by secret service and subsequently declared safe by the metropolitan Police Department. We now know that individual was turned over to the custody of the u. S. Park police. But brooke, this is the second time in a few month where is a drone has been near the white house. We know one landed on the white house lawn back in january. It turns out there was a malfunction with the drone and the operator was not charged in that case. It was a government employee. But this is something the National Security council, the department of justice, the faa are all trying to grapple with how to provide security how to protect places like the white house from drones, from people who may be bad actors. In this case, we dont know what the situation is. Were waiting to find out. But it raises a lot of questions and highlights the issue, brooke. You just dont do this. And you dont do this a stones throw from the white house. Pamela brown, thank you so much. Now lets go to what we know today. New details in this deadly Train Derailment and questions still about what this man was doing in those moments and seconds leading up to the crash. Hes 32yearold engineer brandon bostian. He claims he cant remember a thing. Authorities, including bostians lawyer dont seem to agree on whether the trains driver is cooperating with investigators. We know he handed over his cell phone and a blood sample. Now questions remain about his willingness to talk. His lawyer says bostian spoke to police for hours, but its a different tale from Police Officers who tell cnn that bostian refused to answer questions. The engineer was injured. Again, i want to remind you the engineer of course was in the first train car, the engine component. That car, we believe, actually tumbled over and over and over numerous times, and the engineer survived. Taken out of the vehicle, went to a hospital received treatment treatment treatment, was interviewed by the Police Department and i believe it was a pretty short interview in which he apparently indicated that he did not want to be interviewed. So you just heard mayor Michael Nutter say it that bostian, the engineer here, the person who actually drives the twain, was injured as well as at least 200 other people. We have also learned today that eight people have died. Joining me now, cnns erin mclaughlin. Erin can you tell me about this eighth individual . Reporter hi brooke. Some grim news here in philadelphia. We now have learned the identity of the eighth victim. Hes been identified by his family as 45yearold bob gildersleeve. Now, his family had been sick with worry. They reported him missing following the crash. His wife had said she dropped him off at the train station in baltimore. That was the last time she saw him. Now this grim news that his body has been discovered. The family his wife releasing the following statement saying he has been my best friend for 29 years, and we just celebrated our 18th wedding anniversary and mothers day on sunday. He is a remarkable dad to our daughter ryan and son marc. The statement goes on to describe him as funny, sarcastic, the kind of individual who lights up any room with his presence. Now, we understand that his body was found in the wreckage this morning around 8 00 a. M. Cadaver dogs have been called to the first car, which had been badly mangled. It was in that wreckage that they found his remains. They actually had to pry open the wreckage with hydraulics. They then brought it to the medical examiners office. Now were learning his identity from his family. Brooke . So eight lives lost. So many people injured. Just hearing all these different stories of how people were, you know luggage flung into them or metal seats uprooted or people found hanging upside down. You know i know weve been hearing a lot from hospital officials, erin. Just let me follow up with those injured. I know eight people are still in critical condition. Some of whom still have had surgeries to endure. What can you tell me about those people who have been injured here . Reporter were still waiting for an update on their condition. We now understand from authorities that all 243 people that they believed to have been on board that amtrak train have been accounted for. Here you could see bind me is the crash site. Theyve been working all day to clear it up. Theyve moved, pulled one of the final cars away earlier this morning, one of the final cars we could actually see. You can see crane there is at work. Theyve been inspecting the tracks. Right now authorities are saying theyre trying to prepare this corridor for train traffic. Theyre hoping that at the very minimum, a limited service will be resumed on monday, full service possibly monday or tuesday. Brooke . All right. Erin mclaughlin in philadelphia. Thank you so much. Coming up next some concerning news in the fight against terrorists. What British Intelligence is now revealing about potential terror suspects who leave the war zone in syria and return to the u. K. And just a short time ago, jeb bush took another crack at the question was the iraq war a mistake . We have his answer for you straight ahead here on cnn. music plays throughout the pursuit of healthier. It begins from the second were born. After all, healthier doesnt happen all by itself. It needs to be earned. Every day. From the smallest detail to the boldest leap. Healthier means using wellness to keep away illness. Knowing a prescription is way more than the pills. And believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. Healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care. By connecting every single part of it. Realizing cold hard data can inspire warmth and compassion. And that when Technology Meets expertise. Everything is possible. For as long as the world keeps on searching for healthier. Were here to make healthier happen. Optum. Healthier is here. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Today we learned Scotland Yard is releasing troubling new numbers in the fight against terrorism. More than 700 potential terror suspects have traveled from the u. K. To syria. Of those, nearly half have returned and are now considered to be of quote unquote specific concern. Scotland yard is also warning the suspected terrorists are being arrested in britain at a rate of almost one every single day. So ive got buck sexton with me former terror analyst and with us here officially at cnn. Its not illegal to travel to syria, right. So if youre going from the u. K. You hop over to syria for whatever reason you have at what point does the u. K. Or Scotland Yard say, hm we need to follow this guy and we especially need to follow him upon return home . Theres an additional level of complication because its certainly not illegal to travel to turkey one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world. Turkey to syria. Generally, theres no evidence that theyre traveling to syria, per se. Theyll be traveling to a regional country. You clearly cant stop somebody for that. In this country what weve seen in some cases is individuals who are very loud about their intention to join the Islamic State on social media or elsewhere. The fbi perhaps catches wind of that. Then that step to go to the airport can be enough to get Material Support to a terrorist organization. Absent that just the travel of course is not illegal. So all youre talking about now is looking at essentially a profile of likely Islamic State joiners, essentially, people that might decide based upon where theyre going and other factors to be a part of this. Its very hard to track them once they leave, of course the u. K. You dont know what theyre doing necessarily inside of syria. We dont know. Have no idea. Training studying under whoever, they dont know. Then theres the additional level of even those who come back and we see its a troubling number a large number. Its also different age groups. Well get to that in a minute. But you dont know when they come back you have to be able to prove in a court they did something illegal. Its not even just the suspicion of this looks like somebody who might have been fighting with isis. If kwouyou dont have evidence to put into a court of law, you cant do anything except maybe keep them out of the country, which is something the u. K. Is considering. To your point, we looked at numbers here a stat from britains top counterterrorism officer. He says the new stats indicate more than one in ten of those arrested on suspicion of terrorrelated crimes were female while 17 were under the age of 0 20. This goes to the clairon call from the Islamic State that they want people to join a utopian jihadist society, essentially. Theyre not saying we want fighters. Theyre saying we want engineers, medics women to marry them. We want an entire society to transplant itself from elsewhere in the world and join this burgeoning Islamic State. We have seen individuals who do that and find out this is a nightmarish totalitarian hell hole and they want to get out. Its not what they were promised or what they thought they were joining, but thats the initial pitch. Theyre joining this perfect society. Thats why you have people down to 15yearolds reportedly going to join the Islamic State. Lured by the isis brand, right. Right. They think theyre going to be a part of this grandiose project of caliphate building. Like i said its literally supposed to be the perfect society. So people get there, they realize what this actually is, whats going on. Some of them either die quickly if they try to fight against either assad or iraqi forces or wherever theyre deployed. Others recognize this is a completely dysfunctional state, if you want to call it that. Theyre not able to operate services the way even a thirdworld country would be able to in many cases. On top of that you have amputations and the horrific application of sharia law, which tends to for a lot of people be a reason to leave. Then the question becomes, what do you do with the disaffected who want to leave the Islamic State, which is what were seeing in some cases, and how do you separate the disaffected out from the individuals who are coming back and maybe they decided, im more useful to isis if i strike in my home country . Separating those out is very hard. As im listening to you, i was also getting information here. Im going to turn and do this off camera. I just got handed a piece of paper. As were talking about isis we were discussing earlier this week about the leader of Isis Abu Bakr al baghdadi. Just got this in. Isis media arm has released an arabic audio statement from isis leader al baghdadi. Were working on translating it. Just react to the significance that, you know this man again, remember also that department of state, i believe it was last week put the bounty on four very senior isis leaders heads. The fact that he apparently has spoken and released audio via this media arm of isis tells you what . Well there are oftentimes reports in these sorts of insurgency situations of the leader whoever it may be being killed and they turn out to not be true. Especially talking about strikes against terrorists. This has been the case. If you look at a historical parallel, zar can wee, when he was killed, the iraqi insurgency got worse. I think the history would point in the other direction in many cases. You cant really be sure. Here this is obviously isis trying to say yeah yeah you thought you got him, but you didnt. Keep dreaming essentially. It looks like its unlikely we got him in this case. Eventually we probably will. The coalition probably will get him. The life span of an al qaeda leader tends not to be very long. But getting the leadership doesnt deal with the underlying problem. It doesnt deal with the philosophy. There are plenty of fight who are will replace him if we get him. Al qaeda, or in this case the leader of isis. Buck sexton thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Coming up next we have to talk about jeb bush. Jeb bush having a hard time escaping the legacy of his brother. He was confronted at a town hall event by someone who blamed president george w. Bush for helping create the terror group isis. What his response was and what he recently said here in response to going into iraq. Also an update on the donations that abc news anchor George Stephanopoulos has made to the Clinton Foundation. We have news. Our senior media correspondent will have that information coming up next. Youre watching cnn. Dear stranger, when i booked this trip, my friends said i was crazy. Why would i stay in someone elses house . But this morning a city ive never been to felt like one i already knew. I just wanted to thank you for sharing your world with me. It felt like home. Airbnb. Belong anywhere. Got some breaking news now here regarding donations that abc news anchor George Stephanopoulos has admitted to making to the Clinton Foundation. Brian stelter with me. I think we should back up and explain all of this. You just got off the phone with George Stephanopoulos. This is really evolved quite a lot in the last six hours or so. Ill try to explain the issue at hand. Journalists generally do not give money to political candidates or campaigns, but the Clinton Foundation is kind of one of a kind. Its a Charitable Organization but run by a former president and a possible future president , a candidate for president. So it is something that is very unique. It was discovered by reporters overnight apparently and revealed this morning that stephanopoulos had donated 25,000 last year and 25,000 the year before that to the foundation. This raised a lot of eyebrows. Immediately stephanopoulos apologized, but abc said he made a mistake, were going to stand by him. 20 years ago, he was one of the bill clintons closest advisers. So republicans, some conservatives, have always been somewhat skeptical of him, always wondered if he could be fair when covering politics. Hes done a lot to earn peoples respect and trust. He donates millions of dollars to charities. He happens to give to the Clinton Foundation as well. So hes donated the two times. Then discovered a third. Thats what happened in the last hour. He said actually i also gave another time back in 2012. I forgot about it but its in the records. So actually its a grand total of 75,000, which not a small amount of money. People are automatically and immediately wondering, was this some sort of quid pro quo. Do you give this money to get access to the clintons . Stephanopoulos said absolutely not. He said i gave the donations for all the right reasons for causes i believe in. In retrospect he went on to say, i should have gone above and beyond that to avoid anything that would have even raise any possible appearance of a conflict. Thats why it was a mistake and thats why im sorry to be our viewers and my colleagues. Hes actually going to address this on air on sunday. Obviously he covers politics intensely. How will this affect covering i dont know whether its moderating debates. That was the first question this morning. Can he moderate a republican president ial primary debate . Behind the scenes there was immediate pressure from some candidates and campaigns saying no. We saw rand paul say that earlier today. We saw mike lees communication director say were not going to put mike lee on abc until stephanopoulos recuses himself from all campaign coverage. Stephanopoulos told me he will not moderate abcs february president ial primary debate. He said i dont want to be a distraction. But he said i am going to continue to cover the campaign. And that now becomes this issue thats out there among some republican president ial candidates. They may or may not want to play ball with abc if stephanopoulos is seen as being tainted. This just goes to show, you know journalists are held to a very high standard. Even someone who believes hes doing the right thing by donating to charity can sometimes find himself in a world of trouble. Brian stelter, thank you so much for going directly to him and getting his response to all this. I appreciate it. Thanks. Lets stay on politics of a different kind here and talk about jeb bush. Jeb bush has given his most direct answer yet since back pedaling on whether the u. S. Should have invaded iraq when his brother was president. I want you to listen to what he told reporters today. This was at a town hall in tempe, arizona. So heres the deal. If were all supposed to answer hypothetical questions, knowing what we know now, what would you have done i would have not engaged, i would not have gone into iraq. Thats not to say that the world is safer because Saddam Hussein is gone. It is significantly safer. Thats not to say that there was a courageous effort to bring about a surge that created stability in iraq. All of that is true. Thats not to say that the men and women that have served in uniform and many others that went to iraq to serve did so certainly honorably. But weve answered the question now. So now Going Forward, whats the role of america Going Forward . All week long the likely 2016 president ial hopeful had not been able to escape questions about the war his brother green lighted in 2003. So our chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash is here with me now to sort of really walk through, you know, what he said on Fox News Channel just a couple days ago and how that has, you know, morphed into what we saw today

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