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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin February 11, 2016

Momentum, she gets a critical endorsement from a key democratic group. The Congressional Black Caucus pac. No doubt her campaign is looking to the february 27th democratic primary in South Carolina where, check the numbers with me, as of monday, 28 of registered voters. That includes all parties. Are africanamerican. The lawmakers who endorsed her today also took some digs at Bernie Sanders. Without mentioning him by name. So you judge a person by their results. And there is no question that the person that has obtained the most results and benefits for communities of color and everyone in america, in my opinion, but especially getting democrats elected, theres its not even close, its not even close, its Hillary Clinton. We need a president who doesnt simply campaign and just promise wonderful things. But things that are politically impossible to achieve. Lets take it now straight to the debate and my friend beyawn that ke brianna keilar, at the site of the president ial debate. Heres my question to you. Youve been covering Hillary Clinton for two years now. If were hearing from her campaign she will be more aggressive, what exactly do you think that means . Thats really the question, right, brooke, is she going to really in a sharp way critique Bernie Sanders and certainly the environment is ripe for it, but the other issue is think about leading up into iowa. We talked about this. She was really attacking Bernie Sanders sharply and then she pulled back a week or so before the iowa caucuses. I think there was some concern that maybe that wasnt working for her. What weve seen recently is som husband, bill clinton, and some prominent africanamericans today in her corner attacking Bernie Sanders and doing that for her, but what we do know is she is at least going to be very aggressive in trying to draw some contrast on a number of issues. Gun, for instance, crime, immigration, and talking to sources, brooke, one of the areas she really is going to try to drive home tonight is casting Bernie Sanders as someone who is breaking with president obama and that she is the one who wants to build on his legacy. All right, brianna keilar, thank you very much. Again, the debate, 9 00 eastern. Well be watching. Meantime, senator sanders has gotten some significant support from prominent africanamericans, including activist professor cornell west, ben jealouss who once led the naacp and the famed writer, the latest voice planning to vote for sanders. Hollywood royalty and actor and activist Harry Belafonte. To maybe consider and reconsider whether it is that Bernie Sanders offers. He offers us a chance to declare unequivocally that there is an america, that there is a group of citizens with a deep caring for where our nation goes and what it does in the process of going. Lets dig into the Clinton Sanders race with democratic strategist and attorney angela rye who is a board member of that black caucus congressional pac. Author and essayist Rich Benjamin director of fellows at Public Policy organization dmos. Welcome to all of you. Thank you for joining me. Thank you. I know you are my fellow journalist, youre going to be the neutral person here. The other two dem. With my two dems, show of hands, do you know either of you if youre voting for Hillary Clinton . Raise your hand if you are. Okay. What about Bernie Sanders . Okay. I dont know if we have undecided people or people who dont want to share but let me just begin then, angela, with you, since we have the news of the cbc pac today of which you are a member, you know, endorsing Hillary Clinton. You abstained. Tell me why. Brooke, because im on with people like you. And i think its important for me to maintain my ability to be as neutral and as objective as possible. Particularly in this election where we have so much at stake. You have the rising of black lives matter over the last couple of years of course with the start of the death of Trayvon Martin and i think things have gotten worse. Of course we know that there are white supremists that say for example that Race Relations have gotten bad and worsened under president obama because of barack obama and i dont believe thats the case at all. I think that people are start really starting to show their true colors. I think it is time for us to take Race Relations in this country, Racial Injustice in this country, economic injustice and rage disparities very seriously. For that reason alone, its very important that every candidate on both sides of the aisle are taking black voters and our issues very, very, very seriously. All right. Rich, im turning to you. Do you know i know angela was saying she wants to remain neutral because shes on tv with people like me. Do you know in your heart who you want yet . I have leanings. But i dont have a decisive answer. I wouldnt say it publicly anyway. So im following the race closely. A great race in terms of interest for a lot of democrats. We talk a lot, especially looking ahead to South Carolina, and the nonwhite vote, which is so, so, so important. And when you look at the numbers and how there are some who assume its in the bag for Hillary Clinton just based upon the legacy and bill clinton seen as the first, you know, black president. Youre friends with this writer, with the nation, michelle alexand alexander, she wrote this piece, entitled, why Hillary Clinton doesnt deserve the black vote. She wrote about the crime bill, others, Hillary Clinton supported, decimated black america. Do you stand with your friend on that or disagree . Yes, yes. They decimated black america in terms of unemployment, in terms of the incarceration of black people in prison and some of this are beyond the clintons, when we see how the deindustrialization of this country has led to the loss of employment. Some of these are technical factors that go beyond Hillary Clinton. So the main point of that article is to sort of question really who is supporting Hillary Clinton in terms of black communities and why and not to take for granted that every black person is supporting Hillary Clinton just because her former president clinton was deemed the first plan president. Let me play some sound. Vanessa, i want to tee this up for you, you know, georgia congressman and sort of civil rights icon john lewis was speaking today during the cbc endorsement of clinton and that is what he said. But i never met him. I would chair the committee for three years, from 1963 to 1966. I was involved in the sitins, the freedom ride, the march on washington, the march from selma to montgomery and directed the Voter Education project for six years. But i met Hillary Clinton. He says he met Hillary Clinton. He never saw Bernie Sanders. As we all know, he marched with dr. King, vanessa, do you think that will be damaging to senator sanders at all . Potentially for those who were considering him or thinking about him. Quite honestly, as was mentioned earlier, whats really important in this race is not to kind of look to even the leaders to say how were going to vote, but its for these leaders to actually the candidates to actually address the issues that are of most importance to the voters, right, especially to black women what are you hearing from your essence readers . They want to hear about Affordable Health case living wage, college affordable. Our younger audience 18 to 34 wants to hear about criminal justice reform, they want to hear about Public Education reform. Those are the issues that are critical importance to our audience and the candidates that actually speak to those things that affect our everyday lives are the ones that are really, i believe, in this particular year, are the ones that are going to move the needle. If they really want our vote, they shouldnt assume that the black vote is an automatic. They should see were not all monolithic and they should address the issues were telling them are important to us. Not all monolithic. Im looking at you out of the corner of my eye youre nodding. Because you have to realize whats the average age of the cbc members. We have to consider millennials. A lot of these mill lenles were born after john lewis great feat, after these cbc members were voted into office first. So theyve seen the benefits of the Civil Rights Movement positively and negatively in terms of the backlash that the other guest spoke about with obamas presidency. So how are they going to vote . And the candidates have to address the issues that were mentioned, affordable housing, debt free college, minimum wage. Lets say these millennials, what endorsement do you think matters the most . These lawmakers . Ie, the john lewises . Or the cornell wests, harry b l belafon belafonte, what do you think resonates most with the younger folks . I want to back check something. He was just on with don lemon last night defending his endorsement of Hillary Clinton. Hes also a cbc board member. The thing we have to realize is were now in a paradigm where there is a group of young people rising up saying you dont speak for me, whether youre Harry Belafonte or cornell west or ben jealouss you dont speak for me, inhave the power of my twitter feed and my followers. I have the power of my instagram feed. I have the power of my bull horn on my campus and you dont speak for me because im just as powerful. That has to mean ben jealouss endorsement, when you look at what he has done, that has to mean something. It doesnt mean anything to me. That is someone who respects ben jealous but i still have the power to exercise my own voice, to know the issues that matter to me, to know what resonates to me. What spoke to me more loudly is the fact that Bernie Sanders has this super pac backing him. The nurses super pac. A room full of white women talking about how to talk to black women in carolina. If you want to talk to me, hire people that look like me. If you want to talk to me, get an ad firm that looks like me and can speak in my voice. That is whats most important in this election. That is a powerful comment. Were going to end it there. Angela, thank you. Rich benjamin, vanessa de lucca, thank you all. Its an important conversation and you make an excellent point. Tonight by the way, let me remind you, cnn will be simulcasting the pbs newshour live from milwaukee. You will find it right here on pbs and of course your local pbs station. Just in to cnn, new question also into the investigation over those american sailors briefly detained by iran a couple weeks ago. Straight to the pentagon to Barbara Starr for that. Brooke, were now finding out the Navy Investigation into the incident where ten sailors last month were briefly detained, that investigation expected to be wrapped up in the next couple of weeks. They are looking at the circumstances, the key issue is what led those sailors to actually wind up in iranian waters. What actually went wrong with their gps navigation equipment . Were told by an official familiar with all of this. Theyre looking at three interesting scenarios. Did the sailors actually just somehow misuse, misread the gps equipment, was there some technical fault with it, and a third scenario, is it actually possible that the iranians or some other entities sailing in those waters jamled the gps equipment causing it to malfunction, directing the sailors into iranian territorial waters when they didnt realize thats where they were going. So some really interesting, very hightech questions still about how all of this came to me. The Human Element very much still there. Weve seen the video, the sailors obviously looking distressed and anxious about their situation, and were also told today that the sailors have now reported to their counselors, their military counselors, that they underwent what is being called steady questioning by their iranian captors. Was it a formal interrogation, who knows, but these are very young people that were in a circumstance that was very distressing to them. They underwent steady questioning. That is a typical integration technique of a suspect in Law Enforcement, of a suspect in a war zone, to try and get them to say something. Thats a very well understood fact. It may go a long way to explaining some of the distress that the sailors were feeling. Brooke. As soon as you learn more, let us know. Thank you very much on those american sailors. And that investigation. Meantime, coming up, heres a headline for you. Jeb is not dead. One columnist says hes got a new win as his brother hits the trail with him. Which version of george w. Bush might be see . Plus, a showdown erupting after moscow accuses the american warplanes of bombing a war torn city. Cnn takes you inside syria and the u. S. Response. And my goodness, the cruise from hell. Well speak live with the passenger who just got off this nightmare ship about what happened on board and why the ships crew is in big, big trouble. Youre watching cnn. Well be right back. Right direction, it can be a burden. 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Dana millbank from the Washington Post writes, jeb is not dead, he seems comfortable in his own skin, he no longer hides from his own name, and he acknowledges that im part of the establishment. Dana milbank joins me now. One of my fast lines was actually this, considering bush was ready for embalming before tuesday night, the notion that jeb is not dead is noteworthy. Whats behind the turnaround, you think . Well, i mean, we have to keep it in perspective, first of all. The man got 30,000 something votes, 11 , fourth place in New Hampshire, and were all saying, hey, look at this, jebs the new flavor in town. We were doing that before the end of New Hampshire, by the way, all the snowball fights and the smiles, come on, yeah. Right. We have to keep it in perspective. Something is changing here. I think that, you know, going through that near death experience, hes become a much better candidate, a much better debater. Much better on the stump. And as i wrote, he seems to be comfortable. People are picking up on that. The crowds are drawing. When you see marco rubio faltering, you know, you see christie getting out of the race, fiorina getting out of the race, well, who do you have left . You have john kasich maybe but hes seen as maybe too moderate in a lot of these states. What seemed at one point to be impossible now seems at least plausible, that jeb bush actually could get a second wind. It actually does. Im wondering, you talk about this near death experience, does it stick . Were heading into South Carolina and potentially beyond. The pressure then gets to him. What do you think . Well, the pressure got to him early on. I think he was tested. Think about it, he was really only ton l only the obliterated by trump and he has become the antitrump. Think about it, trump got what, 35 of the vote in New Hampshire. That means a lot of republicans are still not ready to go with trump so he can potentially solidify that piece of the electorate and as you noted, you know, the bushes arent as strong in South Carolina in particular, and hes got a ton of money still. So he can potentially be viable elsewhere in the country, but of course the trump momentum also shows no sign of abating. More on that later in the show. Im staying with bush with you. The fact that his 90yearold mother, you know, who was phenomenal w

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