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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin July 13, 2016

Sitdown with indiana governor mike pence at his place. And the Presumptive Republican nominee brought the kids. Don jr. , eric, ivanka, her husband, jared kushner. A trump advisor says the younger trumps are pushing mike pence but we are told trumps own instincts are telling him to go for another governor, new jerseys Chris Christie, the one guy on earth not in indiana today. But i suppose there in spirit, at least. He did meet with some of the trump family yesterday. So what is going on . Cnn chief Political Correspondent dana bash in indianapolis right now. Dana, tell us everything. Reporter okay. Well, first and foremost, donald trump is still here in indianapolis. Remember, he was supposed to leave yesterday but ended up staying to have dinner with mike pence. He had breakfast as we were report being real time on location with mike pence and his wife, and the adult trump children this morning. Then he came back here and had a meeting with Newt Gingrich. That has wrapped up. We saw Newt Gingrich leave, along with trumps family and his the person whos running his campaign right now, paul manafort. They have all left but again, donald trump is still here. Why is he still here . Well, Jeff Sessions, who is somebody who had been talked about for a potential running mate a while ago but has been more of an advisor type. He is coming to meet with donald trump. He actually flew on a plane with our own Sunlen Serfaty. We havent seen him come in the building yet but that whats going on. Those are kind of the palace intrigue nuts and bolts that have been going on. Again, real time all morning as we have watched. And, john, you mentioned in your intro that this is almost unprecedented. And its true. This is weve kind of been having internal email exchanges about what Reality Tv Show this is most like, whether it is the apprentice, or the bachelor, who is going to get the rose. But im sure in your history and experience covering president ial politics and this very intense vetting process and finalization has done a lot more cloak and dagger kind of behind the scenes quietly. This is not being done that way. It is certainly the Decision Making and the discussions are all in private, but the fact that we know a lot about the meetings is kind of unusual. Im going with the voice. I want to know which candidate is going to get four chairs. Along those lines, talk to me about Chris Christie. Hes not in indiana today but he did get some sitdowns with the family which seems to be key here. Exactly. The thing to remember about Chris Christie is that he is a unique figure in this list of finalists. Because he is genuinely very close with donald trump. Theyve known each other for almost 15 years. And more importantly, he has kind of become his political north star since Chris Christie endorsed donald trump before the primary season was over. So they have conversations a lot. In fact, christie, as we speak, is in washington, d. C. Working on transition issues because his formal role now in the Trump Campaign is to lead up and head up a potential transition to a Trump Administration. So keep that in mind. Having said that, he is very much on the list, i am told. He is very much still in the running to be Donald Trumps running mate. The two of them talked this morning. My understanding is that they did talk about the vp process. But again, i should underscore, we shouldnt read too much into that because the two of them do speak a lot. But more importantly, as you mentioned earlier, i was told that Chris Christie went to trump tower yesterday while donald trump was here in indiana having an event. Went to trump tower and met with ivanka trump, with jared kushner, ivankas husband, and also with donald trump jr. And had a meeting about the vp process. So that kind of gives you a sense of how much he is still in the running. But my understanding is that there are very different kinds of approaches that these finalists are taking. Newt gingrich, i am told by a source, asked to come here. He flew to indianapolis in order to have a meeting with donald trump because trump is actually going to the west coast from here. Hes going for fundraisers in california. So he is being a lot more aggressive in that. And Chris Christie is being more less obvious about it but just being what he has been for some time, which is a trusted advisor. So for somebody who goes with his gut, like donald trump, that might play into it. But then of course, we cant forget mike pence who had several meetings now for the past 24 to 48 hours with donald trump and their families. Stand by, dana. Want to bring in cnn political commentator Amanda Harper who used to be Communications Director for senator ted cruz who is not, we believe, in indiana today. Amanda, former spokesperson for Newt Gingrich, aplan today, who is it going to be . No one knows for sure. Maybe even donald trump doesnt know for sure. But mike pence leads the meal count right now. Hes had two meals with donald trump over the last 48 hours. That, plus what you are hearing from officials inside and outside the campaign. If you had to bet, it seems to be people are saying, probably mike pence. But i would say my money is still on newt gingri. I feel like trump is putting us through a dog and pony show of sorts. Hes sort of parading mike pence around saying look at me meet with him. Will this make it better for me among republicans and conservatives. I think donald trump wants to see who gets a pop, whos going to help him bring unity at the convention. Hes not getting that with mike pence. I understand that a lot of trump insiders think pence is the guy, but people who are in the never trump camp want to see trump put someone around him who has the guts to stand up to him every once in a while, someone who can say, listen, trump, thats not constitutional, you cant do it that way, heres an alternative. Mike pence doesnt fit that bill for me. Neither does Chris Christie. And although i think people have a lot of decent reservations about gingrich, they know he would bring him that advice. So andrew, you use andrea, y work Newt Gingrich. However, asking to fly to indiana to meet with donald trump when he is meeting with other people doesnt look like the guy who wants to turn it down. No, i have no illusion that newt read my oped and somebody decided hes going to pull himself out of contention. But i do think that donald trump is a walking repudiation of everything that newt represents in terms of conservative principles and policy issues. Newt worked for the first balanced budget from a generation and trumps plan would add 10 trillion to the deficit. Newt was a free trade advocate who helped get nafta through and trump needs no explanation when it comes to his threats to start trade wars around the world. Immigration. Newt was looking for some rational reform and voted for it when he was in congress. You go down the list and there are very few issues where the two of them actually came to agree on the policy. Newt for a generation of young conservative activists was a person who led the party out of the wilderness, led it back to taking over the house for the first time in 40 years, served as an inspiration on policy matters, and i hope, and i have written that i would urge him to serve that inspiration in the troubled period thats likely to follow this election and help rebuild the Republican Party rather than joining the trump ticket. Amanda, what do you make of the public process here . Everyones joking, weve all made jokes, everyone here in the last ten minutes about this being like a reality show. But whats wrong with doing this out in the public and trying to generate excitement . Youre trying to win a campaign here and build excitement leading up to your convention. I think this is a fine thing to do because trump does need some buyin from republicans who dont trust him. So this is a fine way to go about it. For all this hype about mike pence, i have such a hard time seeing how there is any chemistry on these dates. These are guys who operate on different planes. Donald trump is a trash talker, mike pence is genteel, kind, considerate, conservative, christian. I dont even know what language they talk to each other in. And so i think this is a big head fake, but there is a lot of people, trump supporters, who want to see him pick mike pence because they think it is going to win people that support a cruise over. That language might it might just be politics. All right, dana bash, andrew weinstein, amanda carpenter. If anyone shows up in indianapolis, call us. Moments ago, Hillary Clinton just unleashed on donald trump over race relations, his comments about the constitution, and more. Plus, an emotional plea from the young son of the man killed by police in baton rouge. What he is now asking americans to do. And a live look now at the white house where president obama is preparing to meet with Law Enforcement. Hear what he is doing today and tomorrow night to discuss race in america. A heart attack doesnt care if you run everyday, or if youre young or old. No matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. If youve had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Bayer aspirin. Vitamin enriched to revive skin and fight 7 signs of aging your Old School Dance moves might show your age, your skin never will olay. Ageless. President obama moments from now will meet with leaders of the black lives Matter Movement and Law Enforcement. Hes going to bring several mayors into the conversation as well about lhow to keep protest peaceful and bring about better relations between police and minority communities. This as Hillary Clinton, the Presumptive Democratic nominee, gives her own message of healing and unity but not all healing and unity because she slammed donald trump. Hard. At a Campaign Event in springfield, illinois. And in times like these, we need a president who can help pull us together, not split us apart. [ applause ] and that is why i believe donald trump is so dangerous. His campaign is as divisive as any we have seen in our lifet e lifetim lifetimes. It is built on stoking mistrust and pitting american against american. Divisive and dangerous at a time she says when the country needs unity. That is her clear message. Brianna keilar, cnns senior Political Correspondent joins us right now. Brianna it wasnt just that message. She went after him on everything, including his constitutional prowess. Reporter thats exactly right. She did. She went after donald trump calling him a divider. She described him as dangerous, something that weve heard her say a lot, john. But she also went after him questioning just how much substance there is to what he said in the wake of a report coming from House Republicans who met with donald trump last week where someone asked limb in that meeting would he defend article 1 of the constitution and he said he would defend article 1. He would defend article 2. And he would defend article 12 even. Of course there are not 12 articles. There are seven articles in the constitution. Obviously some sort of confusion on his part and Hillary Clinton took aim here in springfield, illinois today. Given what we have seen and heard, do any of us think hed be restrained . And he has shown contempt for and ignorance of our constitution. Last week he met with House Republicans in washington to try to assuage their serious concerns about him. One member asked whether hed protect article 1 which defines the separation of powers between congress and the executive branch. Heres the answer he reportedly gave. I want to protect article 1, article 2, article 12. [ laughter ] well, here ats the thing. There is no article 12. Not even close. Reporter but largely, Hillary Clintons comments here today, john, were based around the recent violence that we have seen. The policeinvolved shootings of black men in minnesota, in louisiana, and then the killing of White Police Officers by a black gunman in dallas. That was really what she based her comments on around today. And remember, Hillary Clinton has some vulnerabilities herself. Even as she calls for criminal justice reform. Because of her support in the 1990s for anticrime legislation that ultimately helped contribute to this era of mass incarceration that she now speaks out against. We just lost Brianna Keilar who was in springfield, illinois where Hillary Clinton just spoke. You heard Hillary Clinton was talking about race relations. Also talking about donald trump. Two things she will continue to talk about i think for the remainder of this election, just as he talks about her for the remainder of this election. Well get back to that in just a moment. First, i want to show you a powerful moment from Alton Sterlings teenaged son today. We first saw cameron sterling last week after he broke down in tears just hours after his father was shot and killed by Police Outside a baton rouge convenience store. But this morning standing in the very spot where his father died, the 15yearold offered this message to protesters. I feel that people in general, no matter what the race is, should come together as one united family. There should be no more arguments, disagreements, violence, harms. Everyone should come together as one united family. My father was a good man. That was a sacrifice to show everyone what has been going on in life. And it should give everyone a push that everyone should be together, not against each other. Everyone needs to be on one accord. Not a different note. Everyone needs to be together. Not apart. And i truly feel that my father was a good man and he will always be a good man, but at the same time, he has a lot of loved ones out here that are really here to support me, my mother, the rest of my brothers and sisters, and my father. Everyone needs to come together, not apart. A message from the 15yearold. Joining me now, cnns don lemon and Baltimore Ravens tight end benjamin watson. He is also the author of under our skin, getting real about race, getting free from the fears of frustrations that divide us. Along those lines, you just heard that 15yearold young man talking about being united. You heard president obama yesterday said that the nation is not as divided as everyone has been suggesting. Is he right though, ben . Ive been listening to people the last week. There are a lot of times this doesnt seem like a united nation. It doesnt at all. It doesnt at all. That statement actually reminds me of the young man whose mother was murdered in charleston when he came forth and he talked about forgiveness. I was just amazed at his character. That speaks volumes for him to be payable to say that. But unity is something that we are grasping at i think right now. When you look at social media, you look at things that are happening on tv, you see everyones response to all these things that are happening, you realize that there is a lot of disunity in this country. We are in a much better place than we were but we still have a long way to go. President obamas speech yesterday was like a rorschach test. Some said it was just right. Some said he should only be talking about the police. Some say why wasnt he in baton rouge or st. Paul. Three different responses to the speech. Depending on which side you are on. For people who just want, as cameron sterling says, peace, i think the president hit it just right. I think if the president didnt talk about one he was going to get criticized. He was damned if he did and damned if he didnt. I think he did what was right. He honored the people who died. He honored their service, their family members, the Police Department, and he talk about the issue that we have when it comes to different members of the community and policing. So i think it is sort of your reaction to it is where you are on the political spectrum. If you dont like president obama, then you didnt like the speech. Ben, president obamas meetingality the white house today. Hes talking. Don lemon, you are hosting a town meeting tonight where there will be a lot of talking. President obama is going to another town meeting televised tomorrow night where there will be a lot of talking. How much can the talking. Doing a lot of talking. Thats very important but the talking has to be entered with humility. We have to honestly say how we feel about these situations as a white man, a black man. How do we look at the same situation and have totally different perspectives . What are our biases that we need to repent from and forgive . It is not good enough just to talk about it. There needs to be action. That young man pointed to unity. And unity comes by seeing people the way god sees them. It comes from seeing people with inherent value, that life has value from the womb to the tomb. Life has value and how we treat people is a direct reflection about how our heavenly father treats us. I bet you people yell and get angry on your show tonight. And we want them to. You said unity. That is a big part. But for me the biggest part is empathy. So as i was listening to the president yesterday, i wasnt listening to him as someone who is a republican or a democrat or what have you. I was listening to him

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