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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin May 29, 2018

Star herself, quoting her, Muslim Brotherhood and planet of the apes had a baby, followed by the equal sign and the initials v. J. Who is v. J. . Valerie jarrett, a former adviser to president barack obama. She then said i am truly sorry about making a bad joke about her politics and jokes. I should have known better. Forgive me, my joke was in bad taste. And then the fallout continues and now the show is cancelled. So lets have a huge discussion. Joining me now, brian stelter, who hosts reliable sources. Solomon jones is with us today, a radio host on praise 107. 9 africanamerican, april ryan is with us is with us. Let me just go round robin. First brian stelter, to you on the news and the statement significantly coming from the first female black president of abc entertainment coming out and, i mean, her words abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values. The same as many felt when hethesaw this tweet from Roseanne Barr, abc went silent for several hours. You were sitting in my office ten minutes ago saying i cant imagine, its so popular. Because the show makes so much money. What weve been taught in society for years and years and years is that money speaks, money talks and abc wouldnt walk away from such a lucrative program. But it has. Im just texting with a disney source asking what led to this decision. Theyre saying its just simple, its a question of right and wrong and a question of our companys values. A Pretty Simple answer from disney, a giant multinational conglomerate, all about families, inclusiveness and diversity and they felt they couldnt be associated with her anymore. Solomon, to you next, responding first, reacting to the fact that despite the popularity of this reboot of the show that they have cancelled her and also i read, im not going to read it again, that tweet about Valerie Jarrett is outrageous. It is outrageous. But what it shows is that you have to have diversity in positions of power, not just people who are working at the lower rungs of a company but people in positions of power who can make these kinds of decisions. It is a very simple decision. Its been right or wrong. Are you going to put people over politics and values over money . They decided they were going to put values over money, people over politics and right over wrong. What Roseanne Barr said was wrong and no apology in the world can take away the fact that shes speaking from the heart. She said that because she meant that. You cant have people like that on television influencing where were going as a country. I think abc made absolutely the right decision. April, what are you thinking. I applaud abc. This is more than just a moment because if this were to stand, it would send a message to many of those who like to do that. You know, this weekend, people were saying the same thing to me, it is not okay. And Valerie Jarrett did nothing. And Roseanne Barr attacked her. And Valerie Jarrett, a woman who is a proponent for women. Thats the crazy thing. And then its not about politics, its not about gender, its not about race, its about humanity. And weve got to stop this. And i applaud not only that, brooke, when i found out about it i was furious. I know Valerie Jarrett very well. And i was i was looking on twitter to find out what happened but she didnt deserve that. No one deserved that, especially from that crazy perch that roseanne sits in. Do that was wrong and she knew it was wrong. But, brooke, more importantly, roseanne and her reboot that just got the boot, she wanted to show all of america she has a black grandchild on that show. So what is she saying about that black grandchild and to that black grandchild . We dont need to find out anymore because the show gone. But there is a moment of victory for people who are trying to fight for morality and truth and whats right. Rose answer crossed the line and i applaud abc. She has been crossing the line, though, shes been peddling these conspiracy theories for a long, long time. Brian, my question to you is we sat on the show after the First Episode aired, talking about and put a whole segment together about all these controversial tweets. If we saw it coming, surely someone at abc knew that she specifically would have been a risk. Ive had this folks exactly with people at abc in positions of power and the attitude was you cant roseanne from being roseanne, thats what makes her so successful. They would say we know some of what she posts is ugly, wed rather she not be on twitter, but she is who she is and you cant control roseanne, you cant manage rose answanne. I think thats been proven untrue today, you can cancel the show. Abc has been trying to represent the country. One of the way to reboot roseanne was to speak to trump america, trying to appeal to the heartland. Remember President Trump celebrated the ratings after episode one aired. He said it was our show, theyre talking about us. That was a worthwhile effort to appeal to a mainstream of america that sometimes doesnt feel represented on television. I dont think that should be thrown away. The problem is that strain of intolerance that sometimes comes from celrity like roseanne you never want to judge people based on the worst thing theyve ever said but theres a strain of intolerance in this trump age that roseanne was expressing and that was the tension for abc. Can you get the reward of roseanne and the tens of millions of viewers and take a risk she was going to tweet racist things. It worked until it didnt. Ive got van jones on the phone. I dont know if youve seen this statement. Your thoughts, sir . Well, some things apparently are more important than money, even to a Big Corporation likes abc disney and that is very heartening. Because weve been in a moral freefall for at least three years. To my point of view, one of the great things is it is in fact important that red state america be better represented in the media, but they can have a better representative than a rank bigot who is a conspiracy theorist and who is trashing good people in this country. Valerie jarrett served with distinction and through some of the toughest moments of american histo history, whether youre talking about the great recession, about osama blad i dont knin laden. Im ashamed to say this, i thought she was probably going to get away with it. I was actually as shocked as everybody else when there were actually consequences. Consequences for racism in america . I think youre starting to see like today with starbucks trying to be on the better side of this conversation or what abc did today, it could be this moral collapse is being counterbalanced now by people in mainstream media, mainstream corporations who say we dont want to live in a country when decent people can be attacked for no reason. It not a joke. Its not funny. The dehumanization of people of color, calling us animals, calling us apes and animals, justifying exclusion from busine and universities and this is part of a long and nasty history and apparently abc disney doesnt want it to be a part of our future. And im glad that in some places in america some things are more important than money and im glad. On that, i want to get a breakin. Were staying on this breaking story out of abc today that this incredibly popular, wellrated, how many million 20 million. 20 Million Viewers tuning into roseanne every week, its over because of outrageous, racist tweets from the star herself. 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Because she is reflecting the diversity that has frankly been missing from hollywood for decades. For too long the studios and networks have mostly been run by caucasian men. That remains true today. She is one of the most prominent black women in hollywood and sth surely there were other executives bob, bob iger and p its a sign that how the entertainment world is too slowly but is changing. It plays a role in whose voices are supported and whose voices are not. Lets remind everyone also, two months ago, guys throw the trump tweet up on the screen, the reboot debut and it was inlai insa insanely popular. He said look at roseanne, look at her ratings, they were unbelievable, over 18 million people. And it was about us. They havent figure it out yet. It was about us, they havent figured that out yet. Im wondering, too, about the backlash, this is l. A. And new york and making this decision about trump america, so many people tuned in and now its over. Well, theres a couple levels to this. I guess theyre hearing this. I must be one of those the president was talking about because i watched the First Episode because i was excited to see what she had done. That First Episode was very entertaining and it did deal with politics. One side against the other. It was, i thought it was entertaining. But heres the problem the problem is is the fact that its us versus them. This president says he wants to be president of all america but hes strategically going in for middle america. What Roseanne Barr did, she once again went to that base with that negative comment about Valerie Jarrett. And this is not the first time, we all, to include the president s base, knows what roseanne puts out. Shes made negative statements about africanamerican, saying we look like planet of the apes. She also made negative comments about our jewish brothers and sisters and for all americans, our patriots. What did she do when she did the national anthem, screamed and screeched and grabbed her crotch. She basically said screw america. This is something weve known. A dear friend of mine just sent me a text and its poignant. He said abc just let her go, but will someone or who will pick her up . Thats a question. If they do, it sends a resounding message to that base. Right now shes a hot potato. But if someone picks this show up, it sends a message to us what happened with abc means nothing. A big piece of this, when wanda sykes walked away as executive producer over this, thats saying something. Its a huge moment in this trump error where race is on the table and were trying to figure this out. If i can just add what bob iger just tweeted, he said theres only one thing to do here and that was the right thing. This is another example of Corporate America trying to be on the right side of history but we should examine why is barr so susceptible to these crazy conspiracy theories, why are people so acceptable to george sor soros is a nazi . They get it from the fever swamps from the internet. This is not the only company doing that. Solomon, youre sitting there in philadelphia, right . Thats where the incident happened when those guys were got the Police Called on them for hanging out before their buddy got to the store and todays the day that starbucks closed its stores for racial bias training. With that also in the ethey et. What are you thinking . I think mediawise disney has evolved from a company that started out with amusement parks that did not welcome black people to a conglomerate that has a black woman in charge that says the racism that this Company Started with is no longer acceptable and i am making that decision. And the other part of it is starbucks and them making the decision to say were going to slowly and systematically address what is going on with racism in our stores and how it connects to our policies and how it empowers people to call the cops. This wasnt the first time the young woman had called the police. The Police Presence had increased at that store overtime since she had been there so she had become comfortable doing it because the company allowed her to do it. What abc is saying now is that, no, we are not going to allow this, were going to handle it, not slowly and systematically but were going to handle it immediately. What that says to me concerning starbucks is that racism has to be something that is handled over time, it has to be something that is handled decisively because one afternoon of sensitivity training in starbucks is nice but it doesnt erase hundreds of years of racism. Thats true. I want to get in on this real quick, if i can. That is absolutely true. I believe that race training is great. But you know what, if you have the training, you got have some teeth behind it, too, to say if you do this, youll be suspended or fired. You got to make it so people can say i cant do that. Just talking about it is one thing. Youre not looking for kumbaya moments. You cant just have your blonde latte, you have to put your fei teeth into it. John lewis wrote thank you abc network. Van jones . I want to say abc gets some credit, they brought in Heather Mcgee and incredible leaders going just beyond this one day. I think it gets presented as a oneday thing but i think its more than a oneday thing with regard to starbucks. With regard to what this means and how this might be absorbed, it is in fact the case when it comes to culture, when it comes to media, when it comes to art and increasingly when it comes to Corporate America, the idea that we should treat everybody with respect, we should treat everybody with dignity, that everybody counts, everybody matters, those ideas have gained a big foothold there. In our politics were seeing a backlash against some of those ideas and people who dont run Big Corporations and who dont have a toe hold in hollywood fired back and fought back at the ballot box in 2016. I think abc disney was doing the right thing to figure out ways to better engage and better represent different points of view. They did the wrong thing by picking roseanne in the first place. We knew what kind of a person she was and what kind of views she represented. And there are red state voices that are not being heard that are much more intelligent, much more wise and less bigoted than Roseanne Barr. Now were in danger that Roseanne Barr is the only red state representative of america, she got booted, therefore they dont care about us. Its going to be important for disney to say we want to hear from everybody. But you cannot disrespect and demean whole categories of people. You can represent your group but can you not crap on other groups and have a place in modern life. Yeah, byebye. Thank you all. Plus as a president floats a new Conspiracy Theory, is his strategy against bob mueller working . Were going to discuss that next. Your brain changes as you get older. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. Introducing the worlds first sthe new ego string trimmer. With powerload™ technology. 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