Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201901

CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin January 4, 2019

Collins question and we got dana bash, too. The bit about concrete versus steel because this is so much more than the material, right, this is its a much bigger point. I just want to go back to a tweet from the president from five days ago, kaitlan is saying how are you fulfilling your campaign promise, he says five days ago an allconcrete wall was never abandoned as has been reported by the media. Dana, ill start with you on this. Flash forward to five seconds ago when hes like, no, no, no, steel is stronger than concrete, it will be steel and im wondering to you if this might actually be some sort of opening in a negotiation. How do you interpret that . Potentially. And the reason why he sent that tweet initially was not because of media reports but his on outgoing chief of staff saying in an interview that they werent talking about a concrete wall, nor had they been really since for the past year plus. It could be an opening. So much of this is semantics. So much of this is posturing. He understandably just spent the last hour in the ross garduar r trying to get the political upper hand on the argument for the need for a wall, slats, whatever you call it because of national security, tried to make that case with his Homeland Security secretary right there but didnt exactly have the specifics and the answers to why he believes and he insists that it is the crisis that he has been arguing vociferously that it is to the point where he has promoted this partial shutdown. He has promoted the notion of people who work for the federal government not getting paid, people who need the services of these parts of the federal government not being able to use them, im not just talking about museums but talking about irs and others. It could be a potential negotiating tactic but it also is a sliding political scale, which he uses depending on where he is and who hes talking to and what particular flash point of the moment he needs to deal with. Gloria, let me come to you in just a second. Weve got kaitlan now all miked up in the rose garden. We were discussing your question about steel and concrete and campaign promises. I would like to pivot the president confirming saying that the president said that if he needs to, he would keep this government shut down for months or maybe even a year yet i heard him also say he thinks there will be progress, a group is meeting this weekend. Tell me more about that. Reporter brooke, he did say he confirmed that he said this could be a shutdown that goes on for years. That raised obvious questions what about those federal workers who arent getting paychecks . How are they expected to last that long when they cant pay their rent or car payments . The president said they would feel if asked they would feel it was worth it to go without a paycheck. A lot of them are not going to get a paycheck next friday on the 11th if we are still in this shutdown when it gets to that. A few news points, the president said they will have staff continue to work throughout the weekend and work to find a solution for the shutdown, but it did not sound optimistic. The president said it was productive but the message on the other side of the white house from the democrats who emerged from the meeting said it was a contentious meeting and the president threatened to keep the government open for years. One bit of news that might not have made it on camera as they were leaving the president was going back into the oval office, the Vice President mike pence did say he will not take that raise hes scheduled to get overnight, which he and several other cabinet officials are as well, according to those documents that were reported about earlier from the Washington Post and cnn saying into the only the Vice President but self cabinet secretaries and their deputies are scheduled to get a raise of roughly 10,000 overnight. The president was asked if they should withhold those raises from those cabinet secretaries while there are hundreds if not thousands of government workers going without paychecks and working on furloughs. The president said it was an idea they would consider but did not commit to it. But pence saying he would not take the raise hes scheduled to get overnight. The president kept saying the recently renegotiated trade deal with canada and mexico is going to pay for the wall. That doesnt explain why the government is shut down if that is going to pay for the wall. Thats a trade deal that has not been passed by congress yet. That has stumped not only lawmakers but aides here at the white house said they do not understand what the president means when he says that. He also made a few remarks about these negotiations after that twohour meeting with democrats as you were saying about building the wall out of steel because he said he believes hes done so much for steel companies. Of course i raised a question thats not what the president told his supporters he would build on the campaign trail. One of the big parts of that is how that wall is going to get paid. He promised repeatedly mexico is going to pay for it. Now hes saying mexico will either pay through the trade deal that hasnt passed yet but square it with the fact that the government is currently partially shut down over a demand to have the american taxpayer pay for the wall. One more thing i do want to note, he did say daca was part of the discussions here that they were talking about but then he seemed to back off that at the end when he was saying it was upheld by that court of appeals. Thats essentially what he said yesterday. It doesnt sound like something promising. The bottom line is we are no closer to reopening the government after that twohour meeting right now. Kaitlan collins, rolling through those headlines. You are excellent. Thank you, from the rose garden. Gloria, another headline of bypassing congress to build a wall and essentially saying he can, he can and he would if necessary, what did you think of that . Weve heard this threat before. We heard it or we read it in a tweet in october and i think its a threat from the president. He doesnt ever quite pull the trigger on that. I think its something he kind of throws out there to tell the congress, look, i can do this. They would probably say that he couldnt. I mean, one of the headlines here is the democrats came out and said they told the president , mr. President , lets just open the government and then well discuss the issue of the wall Border Security and each said thats not going to happen in pieces, as he put it, we wont be opening the government until this is solved. He also made the case, he never talks about federal workers personally, but he made the case that if he did interview all of them, they would be happy with what hes doing because hes giving them security instead of their paycheck. Id like to take a poll of those people and see exactly how theyre feeling about that. One other interesting thing, which is sort of off topic, was that he toll us that impeachment came up during this conversation because of the congresswoman who spoke about him in a derogatory way and said that he should be impeached and nancy pelosi said to him, according to the president , we are not looking to impeach you. And he said you cant impeach somebody thats doing a great job, which is what he kind of tweeted this morning. And then he veered over to russia again because there was no collusion, et cetera, et cetera. But it was very interesting to me that pelosi kind of volunteered that, to kind of get that off the table. And shes got a lot of democrats who disagree with her. I also think that noteworthy who said in speaking to a group likeminded folks in washington yesterday that roughly the quote was that were going to impeach this mother fer, and when he was asked about the language that she used, he called it disgraceful and this is President Trump were talking about so its a little bit potkettle, it i may. He said you cant impeach someone whos doing a great job. Thats not how it works. Its less likely because impeachment is a constitutional process but its also a political process. And you have to have the political will among the constituents of the members of congress and the house first to pass the articles of impeachment and then of course of the constituents of the senators, more than a majority of them to effectively find him guilty. You can have a president that is doing great things across the board but also has committed what members of congress consider to be Impeachable Offenses. The two are not mutually exclusive. Youre exactly right. But i agree with gloria. In what regard . If it is true that nancy pelosi said to the president were not looking to impeach you, thats not going to be actually all that popular with people a lot of people who were just elected and made her the speaker and voter for her for speaker and got 40 seats. Some of them will be okay with that, especially the leaders of the key committees who are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, were not giving any credence to the i word, we have to see the Mueller Report and so forth, but David Chalian was saying earlier, 80 of democrats are supportive of impeachment. So thats going to be interesting the way that flies with her constituents. Let me ask the congresswoman who has been patient enough to wait through the last hour. Another freshman congresswoman, the first woman to represent the sixth district in pennsylvania. Congresswoman, welcome and thank you so much for waiting in the wings. Weep get we get a lot of breaking news this time of day. If it is true that nancy pelosi said to donald trump that democrats are not looking to impeach you, if true, how do you take that . So id be happy to answer that question but id really rather talk about what we just saw. If i may, though, can i get you on record on that . The Democratic Party is a very big tent. I was elected by the people of my community to get to the business of the people. The business of the people first and foremost is having a functioning government and right now weve done exactly the opposite of that. And so i definitely am not looking to impeach our president but i am looking for a president who does his job and right now in a job is not being done. What we have just seen over the last hour and a half is a Reality Television show. And we are not in the business of playing with peoples lives. This is reality. And he talked about existential threats at the border. Fund fundamental threats are having food on the table and not to impede their happiness. The president said they have a group that will continue over the weekend. Does that seem like any progress to you . I am grateful for that and i did watch the pres president s conference and havent seen the other coverage. It did seem there were conflicting reports about how that meeting happened and how it transpired. Im interested to see more about that. But it was at least hopeful that well continue to talk over the course of the weekend. I look forward to moving forward on this. I came here to get the business of the people done. Im day two into my job and i really do want to get to the business of why i was elected by the people of my community, which is to worry about health care and make sure we have opportunities and terrific education and wasnt necessarily about building a concrete structure at the southern border. What about, though, yes, heres the but prum did say, he confirmed what we heard from lead are schumer, they contend it was more contentious and lengthy at types, he said that he did hell allow the government potentially to be shut down for months or years. The president said he said that. How would you respond to the president sp. And thats very, very alarming. If were one of those 800,000 people worried about their next paycheck and therefore worried about their rent and their food and their car payments or all of the people who benefit from the services of those 800 these people, would i be very concerned that the government was obstructing the opportunity i had to be an every day citizen. The president does seem to be wavering on his wall or at least his description of it going all the way back to his cam pan. You dont have to call it a wall, you can call it steel fencing. Does this help the case for your party . I actually was fascinated by the way he sort of meandered through his conference and seemed to be wandering from one conversation to another and one set of words to another and i definitely thought i heard some sort of a movement on his part by talking more about steel. I dont know that that necessarily changes anything in the conversation, which first and foremost we have a responsibility to the people who are here to have a government that is working. And right now i come into the congress with a government that is shut down. So im hearing you correctly and then well head off, you did hear an opening in the president talking about steel that could be a potential opening for democrats in negotiations . I dont have any other way to see it when its clear that he has changed the conversation than some sort of an opening. Congresswoman kristy houlahan, good luck. Thank you. I look forward to speaking to you more. 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And go try all of my chicken creations chicken one of the things thats so beautiful to watch is 3. 2 wage growth. That hasnt happened in so long for our country. Thats an incredible thing. That means people are actually getting more money, taking home more money. President trump moments ago touting todays jobs numbers, employers added 312,000 jobs in the month of december and right now the dow, pretty gang busters, up 700 points here on the news but theres Something Else giving stocks a boost. Frank talk from the Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell who said he would not resigned if asked to by the president. Trump has repeatedly criticized powell and the fed for raising Interest Rates saying, quote, it is the only problem with the u. S. Economy. That didnt stop powell from answering questions about trump in a Panel Discussion today. Theres been discussion of a facetoface meeting between you and the president. If invited, would you accept that kind of invitation made . I have no news on that. Nothings been scheduled. I would say meetings between president s and fed chairs do happen. I cant think of any fed chairs who didnt eventually meet with a president. Again, nothing has been scheduled. Cnn Global Economic analyst rana froohar is about us. It not common that you see the fed chief making any comments in the ballpark. Its completely extraordinary. I cant think of a comparable example. And powell was absolutely right to say, look, im doing my job. First of all, a president in order to fire a fed chair would have to have cause. There is no cause here. The president has complained about the Federal Reserve raising Interest Rates, it doing that because weve had a lot of strong numbers, theyre trying to keep the stock market from overheating and keeping inflation low. Hes doing his job. What about the jobs report numbe numbers today . They are strong numbers. The president comes out and touts the strong numbers and says the fed shouldnt be raising Interest Rates. When you have a stronger economy, the fed has to start moving us towards more of a normal monetary policy. Weve been in a really easy money environment for ten years now. Weve been in recovery for ten years. It time to start get back to normal. Rana, thank you very much. Thank you. Let talk more about the notable conference that took place at the white house. Julie pace, one of the most noteworthy bits is the president said he would bypass congress to build a wall if he needed to. What did you make of that . It does raise the question of why he wouldnt just do that and open up the government if he does think thats a viable option. Im sure there are a lot of federal workers who say why dont you go ahead and do that. The reality of the situation is that working through congress, going through the legislative process and the funding process is generally the preferred option because you dont have to tap emergency funds and it does codify what youre seeking. But he doesnt seem to have a plan at this point, a viable way to get what he wants from congress, especially now gnaw have democrats in charge of the house. His best opg wtion was before t new year when he had republican control of congress. April ryan asked about eminent doe ma eminent domain, suggesting land can be taken for the sake of his bored a border wall. Correct me in im wrong, that will not sit well with republicans. Its a very controversial idea. Youve seen a lot of discussion on this. Its not something that people, including the president s own party, favor. You would see a lot of backlash i think along the border in some of those communities. But th

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