Indonesia. Airasia has a very good reputation for safety and the men flying the missing plane had thousands of thundershowers of flight experience. Flight 50 01s captain from indonesia had more than 20,000 of them flying with over 6,000 of them on the airasia airbus. The second officer had more than 2,000 flying hours. The captain has been described as a fan of motorcycles and a devoted member of his local mosque. Last week he reportedly visited the grif of his younger brother who recently died. Its been more than 38 hours since the airasia flight vanished over the java sea amid violent weather. Last months before it disappeared the pilots requested to climb to a higher altitude was denied. Now those leading the search effort can see all evidence leaves little room for hope. If the target is on land, its easier than if its an underwater location. Because of the coordinates that we received suggested it a is underwater our resumption now is that the aircraft is under the sea. If airasia flight 5001 is sitting at the bottom of the sea it could make piecing together what happened just much difficult. Joining me is now is john goglia former member of the National Transportation safety board. Good morning, sir. Good morning. So the search has been suspended because its night fall over the java sea but when the search resumes tomorrow how difficult will it be for authorities to find the this plane . Well fortunatedly ocean at that area of the world is not that deep. 150 to 200 feet deep and its been mapped before. In other words, theres been a survey of the ocean floor accomplished. So it should not be that difficult. Once we get a good fix on the location it will be relatively easy to recover the recorders which will give us a wealth of information about what happened. The two socalled black boxes. The plane itself though, what condition do you suppose it will be in . Most likely its pretty well broken up structurally into the the wings will probably be together and the fuselage will be badly broken up. Much like twa 800 that crashed off the coast of long island. It was pretty well broken up by the ocean, by the impact and as it settled down the pieces were spread out. Will investigators salvage all the parts of the plane and rebuild it like they normally do in an investigation . It depends on what the black boxes say and what they find. Weve done that in the u. S. For a number of reasons, not just to recover the airplane. When it gets difficult to determine how the airplane broke up then you will recover all the pieces. If its pretty clear what happened, you may not recover all the pieces, youll just recover the victims of the accident and leave the rest of it down there. Is it likely well know all the information we need to from these black boxes . High likelihood the black boxes will tell us what happened. Very high likelihood. But sometimes they dont have all the story so we have to wait and see. From what youve observed over these past few days, what do you think happened . Well, thats a lot of speculation. Its probably four or five areas of concern to the accident investigators and this is we could have a problem with the static system because the probes again have had another ad today in issued against them by the european authorities meaning that the first time we tried to fix it we didnt get it all so that theyre back at that. Although we dont know what kind of probes were on this airplane so its premature to say that. That is an area of concern. We also have the pilots expertise flying in icing conditions. Weve had that happen before with pilots having low experience flying in icing conditions and make mistakes. We have also Security Issues which are not the accident investigators role but there are concerns around security that need to be explored as well. All right, john goglia former ntsb thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Lets talk about the role weather played in the this. This plane supposedly went through violent thunderstorms. I want to show you a picture of the type of cloud were talking about. This is a large cumulous nimbus cloud. It can contain heavy thunderstorms, heavy rain and keep in mind its also cold at 32,000 feet so these clouds could contain rain and ice. Chad myers is the expert on this. Heres here to tell us about these clouds and how dangerous they can be for pilots. And they were far to the left and far to the right of this planes path. Theres the planes path coming out of surabaya. I know plane is much larger than it truly is all the way to the left and the right. The plane would have had to deviate left or right to miss these thunderstorms. A large mass of thunderstorms. Now, not a hurricane or typhoon or cyclone but certainly that area that they can form very warm water at the surface, the water wants to rise in a big qume low nimbus thunderstorm develops. You have updrafts downdrafts eddies circulation. Its just like flying through the midwest. You would never want to fly through that 50,000 foot top over oklahoma. That will be a violent right so these pilots has to deviate around this. They either went left or right or it appears they maybe even went up trying to get around this storm or series of storms in a big long line. Its the same type of line that we talked about the air france disaster five years ago. It had to fly through a long line of weather right here at the itcz, the intertropical convergence zone where air converges. When air converges, carol, at the surface, it cant go down because the ocean is in the way. So when the air converges it these go up because theres nothing in the way there. This rising motion creates these thunderstorms and these thunderstorms can get very very violent. Even right here. Thats why we dont even fly. This is the type of the stuff these c 130 Hurricane Hunter aircraft fly through and they get shaken up. Now theyre flying through it on purpose, theyre not flying jets, thatjet s theyre flying props, but they wont be affected by up and down motion that you can get with these big, big thunderstorms, carol. Im talking 2020 hindsight here should plane have taken off that day . I dont think theres any indication that the plane was in danger when it took off or it would havent left. I think these storms develop so very quickly and became a long line so very quickly right in a row that the pilots just saw it and went where do we go now . Well either turn around or weave our wayedly this line of storms and most of the time 99. Something number of times flying around and through thunderstorms is absolutely fine. 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The navy reports 419 people have been rescued but the nightmare is not over for the frightened passengers who have not reached port in the Stormy Weather and may be suffering from hypothermia or burns. The fire blamed for seven deaths started early yesterday morning in the adriatic sea. Cnns monkeypoxax foster has more for you. Reporter its 24 hours these ferry passengers will never forget. Theyre the first group rescued by sea and after a full night of waiting its their first glimpse of daylight and dry land in the italian port of bari. Pulled from danger on sunday after the ferry caught fire off the greek island carrying 478 people. Treacherous seas Gale Force Winds and thick smoke acting as a wall between rescue teams and the passengers. As helicopters circled above, the painstaking and risky extraction began. Hoisting passengers one by one to safety and then lowering them back down again on to some of the surrounding merchant ships which were also batting the seas. On board, the fire raging. Officials believe the inferno sparked in the ships garage. One passenger describing to italian media the rubber on the soles of the freezing temperatures whipped through those waiting for their turn to be airlifted. One passenger saying its like the titanic. Italian Authorities Say at least five people have died one man after he jumped or fell off the ferry. The injured were airlifted straight to a hospital in southern italy where medics have been on standby. The fire on board now under control with all remaining passengers now accounted for. Max foster cnn, london. Joining us now live from athens greece, a cnn reporter. Can you bring us up to date on the passengers . Where are they now . Well, a number of the passengers have been taken to the island of in greece and a number have been taken to bari in italy. I was just talking to someone in greece they were assuring me the health of those on board is quite good. Most of them have been taken to hotels rather than just hospitals on the island. They will be spending the night there. As you can understand most of them are extremely tired. We saw the images of them getting out of the boat covered in blankets taking really small steps, not yet being able to walk. I mean for most people its been an ordeal of about 35 hours of standing out there in the cold. Most of them seem to be in good health. Just some minor problems mainly to do with the smoke that they have inhaled and just being extremely overtired or suffering in some cases from hypothermia having been outside for so long but overall it seems that theyre in good shape and many of them are planning to go home tomorrow for from what i understand. Any word on how this fire started . Well there have been all kinds of speculation that maybe the ship had not been loaded properly. What we do know is that italy is has actually launched an investigation, a criminal investigation to see what the motives not the motives but what happened in this case what the causes of the fire might be. But its going to be a while before experts can actually assess what has taken place and before we have a final outcome on this. And i know the seas were too rough for authorities to deploy life rafts so should this ferry have been on the water at all . Its difficult to say. I mean its a ferry that has made that journey very many times and certainly not always in very good weather conditions. But its true that in terms of the lifeboats and then the rescue operations the weather has been really the main problem in all this. The rescuers got there quite quickly, the ships gathered around trying to get access. The helicopters were there but it took so long to get all these people out because of the Severe Weather conditions. All right, thank you very much. 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Cnns Paula Hancock is at the staging area for the search. Reporter the searchandrescue operation for the missing airasia plane has grown in size this monday. We are at the airport on the island of belitung. All day search and rescue helicopters have been coming in. Theyre going out on sorties, come back here to refuel have a briefing to find out where they should be going next and heading off. This is becoming one of the staging areas for this searchandrescue operation. Now, this island is one of the closest areas to that last point of contact that the plane had and this is the area that much of the searchandrescue operation is focusing on. According to one official we just spoke to, the search area now is 240 by 240 nautical miles so a very large area. Theyre cordoning it off, sectioning it off to make sure theres no overlap, to make sure they dont miss any areas. Theyre doing this very systematically. I spoke first to marshal sipcypriot cyprioti and he says they havent been able to narrow the search down. Translator were searching all areas. Later if we get new data we can narrow it down. I asked the first marshal if he believed the possibility of any survivors still. He said that if the plane crashed in water it is unlikely but if it managed to crash on land neighbor the jungles to the east of here then survivors are possible. Paula hancocks cnn, beliton island indonesia. Still to come in the newsroom, were taking your questions about the disappearance of disappearance of airasia flight 8501. Go to twitter. You give. And you give. And then you give some more. But sometimes you get. And so you take. Tylenol® cold is Strong Enough for you while childrens tylenol® is gentle enough for them. We give you relief from your cold and flu. You give them everything youve got. Tylenol®. Many people clean their dentures with toothpaste or plain water. 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Joining me now to answer your questions, a contributing editor at flying magazine and mary schiavo. Welcome to both of you. Im glad youre here. My pleasure. Thank you. So a lot of people have been tweeting this question if the weather was so bad, why was that plane allowed to take off . Want to tackle that mary . Absolutely. You know, thats an excellent question and a question that really has to be asked by the investigators of the airline because the theories on that have changed dramatically now that we have on board weather radar and weather facilities in the airlines. And a lot of u. S. Carriers will opt to cancel flights rather than not just risk the lives but also risk the schedule. And thats a very good question give than wall of red, that horrible weather. I think the answer is they shouldnt have been there but that remains to be seen by the investigation. As far as the equipment on board the plane, les, did the pilots have enough information to determine how to get around that storm in they . Theyre the ones making the decision not air Traffic Controllers. Of course. They probably had very sophisticateed radar on the a320. It has the ability to adjust the radar automatically and manually. They can see where where the cells are left to right. Deviations, what is the appropriate way to go. So they have systems available to them. So they have systems available and we know mary, that the pilot asked to ascend so he could get higher so he could get through that terrible cloud with the thunderstorms included but air Traffic Control said no there were other planes in the sky. The other curious thing is there were other planes in the sky around this plane and they made it past that cloud safely. But the difference in the weather can vary dramatically particularly in a building thunderstorm situation. And if they were heading in the particular parts of the cloud, especially the parts on the thunderstorm its the area off what they call the area off the end of the anvil. A thunderstorm builds up in an anvil formatio