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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello February 3, 2015

Its easy to solve. Get your children vaccinated. If you got your vaccination before what 1990 you should get another one . If you were vaccinated before 1990 you only got one shot instead of two, and you may possibly be vulnerable to measles. If you were exposed, if you know people in some of these 14 states you are hanging out with them go to your doctor and ask what you should do. Many doctors will say, look you may be immune. May not be. Lets be safe and give you a second shot. Elizabeth cohen, many thanks to you. I appreciate it. Vaccinating your child is not medically controversial but it is an emotional issue. Its your kid after all. The antivaccinators are wealthy, educated and liberal. The face of the movement is Jenny Mccarthy who said my son is my science who saidlater backed away from claims that vaccinations caused her sons autism. Welcome to you both. Thanks for being here. You sally, you wrote an oped for the daily beast saying i didnt vaccinate my child and i regret it. You said that we were focused on keeping our daughter safe and little else. That was a mistake. Sally, why . Its not the first mistake. Its a confession. Im getting a lot of wtfs from my friends this morning. I havent talked about this. The story people can read the piece but its simple. When i was a new parent my partner and i were new parents. It felt like a million decisions to make. Everything felt overwhelming and my mom who is a very smart, wonderful, caring person hi mom, i love you very much felt very very strongly about this for reasons that ultimately i came to look into on my own and my partner and i came to disagree with but in the beginning she felt incredibly strongly. Laid out the evidence against it. And it was one less decision to make. So we delayed. So this oped must have been hard for you to write. It was hard to decide to write. It wasnt actually hard to write. Its been several years since we had a change of heart, change of mind got our child fully vaccinated. You are confessing to something and even a lot of people who really really like you are saying wtf, right . And sometimes they are spelling it out. You know i have to say, the biggest regret for me is you know look is it a failure of logic . On some part i didnt look into it enough on my own. It also feels more like a moral failing. As a progressive, as a liberal, as a patriot, i believe in this notion that we all do better when we all do better. I believe in community. Were all connected. Its part of the values that made me want to send my kid to a Public School because i want my kid to do well and invest in education that helps all kids. All those values made sense to me and yet somehow i didnt connect that to this decision to not vaccinate my child, which seemed only about my child at the time but now i came to realize and, doctor sally isnt alone. A lot of educated liberal people are out there who decide not to fax vaccinate their kids because they find this Information Online and discount what their own doctors tell them. Why is that you think . There are a lot of sources of information. A lot of moms and fathers. Its like when a baby is born its a fast moving train. Theres a lot of information coming from all sorts of sources. The internet individuals, family and friends, et cetera. In our group what we are focusing on now is providing education about vaccines during pregnancy. The breastfeeding people do that. The safety people do that. And so why not talk about vaccines . Why not have that discussion when someone is pregnant and when a family is making all sorts of other decisions that are assimilating other information, we believe thats the time to talk about vaccines. At least to start the conversation and then continue it after the baby is born. As a father myself i had a 4month jet lag after my son was born. My wife i guess, was even more involved but still the time to talk about it is in pregnancy. To Start Talking about it in pregnancy. With your doctor right. We have to talk about the political angle. Measles vaccines have become political which is perhaps understandable since you write why trust the government and pharmaceutical industry when it comes to vaccines. That skepticism doesnt seem selfish but smart until it isnt. Is that what senator rand paul was getting at when he said you should have the freedom to decide whether to vaccinate your kids . Awkward when i agree with rand paul. There are two camps that break down and folks skeptical about vaccines. One is folks who are skeptical, they are skeptical about government and government intrusion and what they see as government intrusion and then sort of liberal progressive well to do folks like myself who have this sense we live in a Bubble Community and were protected from other things and are thinking too selfishly. I will say that theres a conversation we should have here which is more than just partisan about the indictment that both sides seem to suggest of government and governments coziness with the pharmaceutical industry with the medical industry that when my partner was pregnant we were being told to schedule a csection. You shouldnt schedule a csection. A lot of doctors in new york push for scheduling csections. Theres a lot of hormones in milk are safe and hormones in chicken are safe and a lot of that where government is on the wrong side and cant be trusted feeds into a lot of skepticism when government is taking the right position. Along those lines, doctor would you prefer that politicians just not talk about vaccines . Politicians not talk about vaccines. I think we have a democracy. Everyone has a right to talk about it. I think how we talk about it is important and vaccines are a science based product. We should give a little bit of deferens deferens deferens. Not necessarily the government. They are some of the smartest experts with the National Institutes of health or cdc, et cetera but also this is not even a controversy within the medical or Public Health community. The American Academy of pediatrics have come out strongly in favor of vaccination. So i think politicians should give a little bit of deferians to people who understand it from multiple aspects to clinical to even policy aspects as well. Thank you so much. Especially to you, sally. I appreciate it. If you want to read the rest of sallys oped, head to the daily beast. Com. We see more cases of measles and whooping cough, one michigan mother says enough is enough. Let organized a group of parents to wipe down desks at a local Elementary School to try to stop a growing whooping cough outbreak before it got worse. She also operates a day care and she joins us now. Good morning, beth. Good morning. So just your general feelings about this controversy surrounding measles vaccines when there shouldnt be a controversy, right . Right. Im a vaccinator. My children are vaccinated. Its a real fear for me because i have an infant right now that cant get all of those vaccinations and im just trying to safeguard my children from these preventible diseases. I dont know if you heard the conversation with sally kohn did you . Yes. What did you think . I understand that its everybodys decision to decide what they want to do for their family and what the right choice is. I think its up to the parents to do their research to gain a knowledge that they need to make that decision. But their decision does affect their community. Especially yours. You were so concerned about it you organized a group of parents to go wipe down desks at school. Tell me about that. Well it started out with a small text to some friends asking if they could donate some clorox wipes and spend a few minutes at the school to wipe down some lockers. I decided that it got some good response so i made a Facebook Page and within 24 hours we had more than 30 containers of wipes brought to the school to the teaching staff, to the office area and within the next 24 hours we had a group of moms and children wiping down every single locker in the school. The computer labs. Art rooms. Desks, chairs. Anything that we could do to try to help eliminate and prevent the spreading. Is it kind of irritating to you that you had to take matters into your own hands . No. I think that you know these things happen. And we just do our best to continue forward and try to stop it in its tracks. You know this couldnt have been done without the help of the community, the families at our school mill creek, coming together and stepping up for the kids. Beth thank you for your efforts. 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Just moments ago in boston the citys mayor vowed the parade will go on for the new super bowl champions. Sanction lining the parade route have been buried under several feet of snow so boston will honor the hometown patriots tomorrow. The mayor promises. Alexandra field is in boston to give us a little tour. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. Were waiting for an update from the mayor who is about to speak to let people know if the parade will go on as planned at 11 00 tomorrow. It was supposed to happen today but if you look at the conditions around me you can understand why the city said lets delay this a bit. People are shoveling trying to clear off roads and sidewalks. Massive amount of snow thats on the street is a big problem considering the fact that they expected thousands of people to be out here pressed up against these snow banks and nowhere to stand on some parts of the sidewalk but also its the brutally cold temperatures which really contributed to the decision to call off the parade. That sunshine youre seeing outside of the windows is deceptive. People are just truly bundled up even for boston were in Single Digits here. The thought of standing out on the street for the parade probably too much and not a safe idea. In order to take some precautions, the city planneded to have emts and firefighters out here because conditions were so bad but again at the last minute they decided lets take another day and wait for temperatures to climb and wait for a little more cleanup to be done. The plan for now for this parade to kickoff at 11 00 tomorrow. Those 25 iconic duck boats that the city is known for will make their way up the route that were following right now. Theyll wind up at city hall. Yesterday the mayor said that once the duck boats got to city hall that would be it. Parade over. No rally in place at city hall which is the tradition of this city because of the cold temperatures. So well have to see whether or not that remains the plan carol. I just want to look at the roadways once again. Kudos to the city of boston. 41 inches of snow over the past several days and those roads are clear. That is amazing. Reporter the mayor said that when this storm was in the forecast and of course it came on the heels of the last blizzard that crews were working already to start to clear this route. Hes wanted to be clear they are working all over the city. They were certainly working to get this parade route clear. They didnt want to jinx anyone but they did know patriot fans would be expecting to welcome this team home as super bowl champions. They wanted to give them this parade. They said it was important to have the parade today because so many of the patriots leave town at the end of the season. Ultimately it was decided it would be best for everyone to just go ahead and do it tomorrow. Theyll clear the roads and hope ice isnt an issue. I hope not. Alexandra field reporting live from the beautiful city of boston. Thanks so much. Still to come in the newsroom, the Aaron Hernandez trial delayed. What happened in the courtroom this morning as it resumes. Well take you back to boston next. Meet the worlds newest Energy Superpower. Surprised . In fact, america is now the worlds number one natural gas producer. And we could soon become number one in oil. Because Hydraulic Fracturing Technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. Supporting millions of new jobs. 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This is only the second day of testimony. Expected to be a very long trial. First, there was what appeared to be a juror who was brought up to the judge to answer some questions. Its not clear what the judge spoke to this juror about previously. The judge had said jurors could watch the super bowl. There was some concern that during the super bowl there may be talk of Aaron Hernandez but said they cannot research hernandez or research the case and you have to beware that if there is discussion about hernandez during the super bowl you have to turn away and not watch it. Its not clear if this individual, a woman in her 40s, was dismissed or not. Well learn more about that. Aaron hernandez went up to the judges desk while this juror was being questioned and then there was a discussion about evidence that possibly the prosecution wants to bring in more evidence. Something regarding an evidentiary hearing that the judge wants to hold now. Hernandezs lawyers argue that hernandez could be there for that hearing. The judge saying no citing case law. Turned into a big legal discussion. The judge said were suspending this for now awaiting that evidentiary hearing. We should know more hopefully in the next hour or so. Carol . All right. Miguel marquez well let you gather more information. Im joined by criminal defense attorney ann bremner and criminal defense lawyer danny. Lets start with the juror issue first, danny. What do you make of it . This kind of thing happens all the time. One of two things could have happened. Im just speculating. Sometimes a juror comes in and says im so sorry. I read the paper. I wasnt aware. Accidentally i saw something. I want to know if its okay. I want to know if im in trouble. Sometimes in highprofile cases ive seen where jurors dime out other jurors and it often happens that we were by the coffee machine and juror number 5 started talking about i would never believe that witness. I heard shes a big fat liar. I have seen that personally in my own cases. What happens then is that juror gets called to the side and the judge finds out what exactly they heard. These are just two possibilities. It frequently happens during a trial that some question is raised about what a juror may have seen or said and the judge has to investigate it. The court has to look at it in side bar and question that juror to find out if they are fatally tainted. Fatally tainted. You heard miguel marquez. Jurors were allowed to watch the super bowl. If anything about Aaron Hernandez came up they had to turn away. Is that really that serious that you would dismiss a juror over . No. Everybody watched the super bowl. Its the most watched super bowl ever except for Aaron Hernandez. All of the jurors were allowed to do it. He wasnt mentioned. I dont know what would come out of the super bowl that would lead to a hearing on a juror. Something came up where this juror might have information that might taint their ability to be fair. Well see. Well learn soon enough. It does happen all the time in highprofile cases because everybody talks about these cases except for the jurors. Thats why they made alternate jurors. Thats why we have them. We foresee this situation. If the juror is no good anymore, the next one moves up and takes the place. Lets tackle the evidence issue that prosecutors have new evidence to bring into trial. Thats normal too, right . Absolutely. Whats interesting here carol, is the confrontation clause. They are fighting about whether or not the defendant can be present during the hearing on the evidence. That leads me to believe this could deal with the immunity issue with his fiance and whether or not she would be granted immunity was a secret hearing back in the beginning of the month and may yet be continued during the course of this trial where there will be an argument hes not allowed to be present because think about it . How intimidating is that for her to have a child together they have a life together a future together supposedly and yet she may be turning on him at this late stage in the game. Thats interesting. As we told you earlier in the last hour are newsroom, odin lloyds girlfriend was going to take the stand and testify against her sister who is Aaron Hernandezs fiance. Maybe that all fits. It may. Believe me each of the prosecutors have gone to these witnesses and told them this is what youre facing and if you want to save yours

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