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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield June 28, 2015

Hello. Thanks for joining me. Im suzanne malveaux. We begin with new autopsy results on escaped inmate richard matt. They show he died from three gunshot wounds to the head fired by a local Law Enforcement Tactical Team. When police say matt had bug bites and abrasions consistent with living in the woods for three weeks. Meanwhile, the search for the other prisoner david sweat, now focused on a 22square mile perimeter near malone new york. This is new video of the officers going through the property near where it ma itmatt was killed. Governor cuomo says the search is costing the state millions of dollars. He said that police are running down all possible leads. Mr. Sweat, the evidence is interesting here and informative. Were looking through all the leads because, really he could be anywhere. The last time he was seen was at the time of the escape. Literally the night of the escape was the last time he was seen. The local sheriff says that sweat is tired, hungry. He is confident that sweat is going to make a mistake. Our own jean is live in malone new york. Jean weve learned about the other one who died from gunshot wounds but weve also learned there were signs that richard matt was living outdoors. The condition of his body. What can you tell us the details about that and what it suggests is a condition we might find sweat under in those woods . Reporter extremely interesting. Were here at the search area and beyond that is where matts body was found. Its raining hard this afternoon. The conditions are not good. Difficult for searches but obviously difficult for anyone hiding in the woods. We learned through the autopsy report results released a short time ago that he had bug bites to his lower extremities, blisters and abrasions on his body consistent with living in the woods for three weeks. Obviously, difficult and tough conditions. Something thats not conducive to enjoying yourself out in the woods. That search continues beyond me 22square miles of some of the most difficult wilderness areas in the country. We do know today that there are tactical units. There are canine units which, by the way, have difficulty and can have difficulty when the weather conditions and the rain is difficult. Then also aviation units. The helicopter units are out. Beyond this 22square miles of wilderness they are also going door to door. The town of malone the town of duane, this is about just 30 minutes away from here. These are areas that they have searched before. They went back again today. I just spoke with one homeowner minutes ago that had her home searched. Some state Police Officers came to our house, went up in the back. Used the four wheeler and our next door neighbors four wheeler and checked the woods in the background and our out buildings. Whats back there . We have two buildings, a play house and storage building. They checked those out. And the old railroad in the woods. Reporter this is country living. Behind them is forest railroad tracks. Another homeowner told us there was a cabin actually beyond in the woods from where they are. The new york state whether i say, when i asked them do you have a tip, a special lead to take you back to this area . They said no, just checking everything. But they had their clipboards their guns. They were ready for anything they might find. One question that everybody is asking since david sweat is still on the run here what about his dna . Where has that been found . We know processing has been going on in cabins and things they found in the field. The governor said that david sweats dna was only conclusively found at this point on a water bottle he said. A water bottle in one of the cabins. David sweats dna was there. Richard matts dna was there. As the governor said that could mean a number of scenarios there. It was an old water bottle that sweat used before they split up or that they had remained together. So its interesting information from governor cuomo. Dna can help lead them in particular directions. In this horrible weather, theyre still out there. We understand 1,300 federal, state and local Law Enforcement today. Even more than yesterday. Whats interesting about that information about the water bottle i guess it depends when his dna was on the water bottle would suggest the last time he might have had a drink of water and how long he can sustain himself without water for the next days ahead. Thank you very much for that tip. Appreciate it. We spoke to the man who called police after items were found inside the place, inside the cabin. The phone call led the officers to richard matt. I want you to listen to this. Bobby, how did this start . Your son called you . He called me 12 20 on friday afternoon. He went down to check the hunting cabin and noticed something out of place. Called me and asked me if i was up there. I said i havent been there since sunday. I said wait. Ill go up and look with you. Well decide if well call the troopers or not. When i was talking to him on the phone, there was a gunshot then at 12 20. He told me he said there is a gunshot. I heard it through the phone. Reporter what was your thought . Youre talking to your son, he notices there may have been a disturbance and you hear a gunshot. Whats going through your mind as youre heading there . First, i hung up and tried to call him back and couldnt. Either the cell reception didnt work or something. I got kind of nervous. I came home and got my shotgun. I went up to the camp. Before i got here he called me. I said, wait and ill be right up. Him and another friend came up. We all went down and checked the camp. He showed me what he seen. I said this is out of place. Its not right. I think we should call the troopers. Reporter did you think it was one of the fugitives . In a way. We were weary up there walking around. You never know. I had to get back to the repair shop so i told bob, call the troopers. They had paul go to the road and he waited for them and i came back to work. Reporter what happened when the troopers got there . What did your son tell you . They were looking around the camp and heard another gunshot, possibly when they shot the trailer. Within an hour or so more they were multiple gunshots. Reporter what was missing in the cabin . Just the bottle of gin that moved from one counter to the other. It was split. A thing of toothpicks in the cub cuboard. Reporter was that all in. Two pairs of boots missing. One anyway. Reporter what do you think that you and your son were key to leaving the police to richard matt . Its overwhelming. Im glad they got one. Too bad they didnt get them both. Reporter were you afraid for yourself for your son, as youre hearing that gunshot over the phone, getting there . Yeah, i was worried for him. Yeah. I went up this morning and checked it. Brought a gun and checked again. The trooper got done and i havent been in there since they were in there. Reporter did he go to check on the cabin in the first place because he was aware of the search and suspected maybe . He lives the hunting cabin is behind his house. The driveway comes out by his house. Hes concerned they might get in there. Feels better at night, to sleep knowing nobody was in there. Thats why he checked it often. Reporter what did he sound like on the phone, when he realized something was wrong . He was excited. He really knew something was out of place. Didnt know what really to do. Now you hear it all the time any tip, no matter how small, call. Thats what we did. Reporter could you tell if anybody had spent a significant time there . Not there long. Didnt sleep in the beds or anything. Reporter what did the police tell you . Was it clear if one person or two had been in there . They know matt was in there. They dont know about sweat. Reporter what did they do to investigate investigate . They dusted the whole thing, fingerprinted, dna, took the bottle of liquor. Reporter have you been able to get back in . I went in today and checked. Everything was pretty normal. Next our experts will join us with a look at what police need to know now to find david sweat. We call ourselves the freedom hikers. Hiking brought us together but thats not the only thing that keeps us coming back. Heres to friends who reach for better. Fewer carbs, fewer calories, superior taste. Michelob ultra. The superior light beer. When cigarette cravings hit, all i can think about is getting relief. Only nicorette mini has a patented fastdissolving formula. It starts to relieve sudden cravings fast. I never know when ill need relief. Thats why i only choose nicorette mini. If you want a paint thats more than just easy to scrub. If you want a paint that actually repels dirt and grime. If you want a paint that stands up to lifes wear and tear. 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I dont know if we verified that or not. It would make sense if they were on the run, they got in there and this stuff was in there. If in fact matt was intoxicated and sick again, along with the stuff that theyre talking about with the autopsy about his feet and the abrasions, i think its starting a picture is starting to develop that they were actually moving quite a bit in the woods and not just hanging out in the cabin, which i was kind of thinking that maybe they got in the cabin and stayed. All this stuff is actually painting a better picture for Law Enforcement. The thing thats missing though is sweat. Was sweat a part of this . Was sweat in the cabin with matt . We know matt was there. Thats the part thats i wouldnt say its concerning me tremendously right now, but thats something i know has to be on investigators minds right now. Jonathan, well let you and the audience know that has not been confirmed, whether or not matt was intoxicated or sick. The toxicology report hasnt been given to us yet. Tom, i want you to address this. Since its been two whole days since matt was killed but the search continues for sweat, so are we back to the beginning here . Back to square one . Is that what the searches are dealing with now . I think possibly that we could be back to square one. Theres so many different possibilities of what happened here and when it happened. We dont have the complete picture. Weve heard from the cabin that they entered eight days ago that thats where they gained the shotguns and several hunting knives. That was the last time supposedly both of them were confirmed at the same location. We dont know that theyve been together since then and were near each other or together at the time matt was killed two days ago. Theres a lot of questions we still have. Ill throw out theeranother theory out. Theyre both homicidal killers. They could have gotten in an argument and fought and matt could have killed sweat a week ago or more. Because the whole escape plan was botched. They could have argued over who trusted joyce and whose fault was it. You told me she was okay and she wasnt. Yeah but you were sleeping with her, too. They could have had a falling out that ended up in the murder of sweat. Thats a messy scenario, but anything is possible. Jonathan i want to go to that point. I asked about this earlier today. Is it possible that sweat also died . That because of the conditions out there, because its been so tough, its been three weeks or so that something might have happened to him, aside from his partner killing him, where he did not survive in the woods . I mean absolutely. The scenario that tom was just talking about is not far from the truth. Along with and this is what would make it difficult, if he is now a corpse and ive been harping on this since day one, he has a green jump suit on. I dont know why the prison gave that to him. If he is a corpse laying in the woods right now, they could easily walk right by him and never, ever find him. Meanwhile, theyre spending 1 million a day on the search. Wouldnt a search dog or bloodhound pick that up . Eventually yes. Depending on if he died in the water. I mean dogs are not infallible. Theyre a very good tool but they can miss things. Id love to see if tom saw this picture, they showed a picture of the command post. It was crammed full of people. One of the reasons i think theyre having difficulty getting people to the locations quickly is because the command post is overwhelmed with chiefs. You have to back this out and you have to have a chain of command that works with all the agencies that come together so it flows smoothly and quickly. If thats not the case and sweat was with matt theres a potential that he could have eluded them in the time it took them to respond to the leads. Very possible. Jonathan and tom, thank you very much. Well get back to you as soon as we have more developing on this story. Appreciate it. After three terror attacks around the world, there is a new warning about possible terror threats here in the united states. Just before the 4th of july holiday. We have those details straight ahead. Only tmobile has americas best unlimited 4g lte family plan. Thats right. The best in the game. 2 lines of unlimited 4g lte data for a 100 bucks a month. And for a plan this big, you want a killer phone. Get the lg g4 for 0 down. Add lines for only 40 bucks a pop. So give your carrier the boot. Get the lg g4 and full speed 4g lte data that really is unlimited. Switch to tmobile today. Back to our breekaking news. Escaped inmate richard matt died from three gunshot wounds to the head. He also had bug bites and abrasions consistent with living in the woods for three weeks. Meanwhile, a search for the other prisoner david sweat, is now focused on a 22square mile perimeter near the town of malone new york. Officers are going door to door literally looking for sweat, who has not been spotted since he broke out of the clinton correctional facility. The local sheriff says sweat is tired. He is hungry. Hes confident that sweat is going to make a mistake. As americans prepare for the 4th of july holiday, the u. S. Now bracing for possible torre rorerror attacks. Agencies are to be on the alert, especially in light of the three recent terror attacks in france, kuwait and tau any wayunisiatunisia. Joining me is a former cia covert officer. Thanks for being with us here. Were just getting ready for the holiday. People are thinking about picnicking, thinking about fireworks. Theyre not thinking about a possible terror attack. What are you looking at . What are Law Enforcement folks saying about the potential for this holiday being dangerous . Well theyre concerned. Federal authorities have been as you pointed out, advising local and state personnel of the heightened threat. There is a high volume of whats described as chatter. The Technical Communications intercepts picked up from terrorists overseas. Yes, this is a major problem. We know from years and years of this fatiguing war on terror that the other side the hostiles al qaeda now with the Islamic State and others they like to target big dates. Anniversaries, special events. Naturally, july 4th coming up is a major concern. Not just for us though. Over in the uk theyre preparing for wimbledon. As the same time its the 10th anniversary of the horrific 7 7 attacks. The bus attacks and train attacks that killed 52 citizens. Mike are the big events the 4th of july holiday, are those the ones that are at greatest risks, or the shoft targoft targets . If youre in the mall the grocery store, you should be vigilant about looking around . Absolutely. Shortly after 9 11 this has been evolving as the terrorist threat has evolved or adapted to our counterterrorism efforts. After 9 11 the thought was, theyre looking for the next big one. They want to raise the bar higher. Create a massive event bigger than 9 11. What were seeing now, particularly through the Islamic State and all the efforts theyre making on social media to recruit westerns and they have recruited over 4,000 of them is that they dont necessarily its not the same. They dont want their people to come to syria and iraq. Theyre saying join the dark side and do whatever you can do. Weve seen that in these past three attacks. In tunisia, france and a shia mosque bombing in kuwait city that killed 27. Theyre looking at whatever it is theyre happy with it. Real quick, what can we do to protect ourselves . Very quickly. Well, the biggest thing we can do to try and prevent this in the states is working with the communities. Your best opportunity is catch what is sometimes described as a lone wolf is through the family of those individuals. Trying to get them to talk about the behavior of the individual who may be turning, becoming radicalized. Thats difficult. The other thing is what we do so very well as a local, state and federal authority, is we have a lot of practice unfortunately at this now. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Obviously, just kind of a heads up to everybody to look out, to be vigilant in your surroundings over the holidays. Thank you, again, mike. Appreciate that. Next well return to the new york man hunt. Find out what happens to a persons mental state when theyre on the run for more than three weeks. Across america people, like Basketball Hall of Famer Dominique wilkins, are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes. With noninsulin victoza. For a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar but it didnt get me to my goal. So i asked my doctor about victoza. 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