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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield September 1, 2018

I think so. I think that remember, after 9 11, on the steps of the capital, you have members of congress singing together. And you havent heard that. You havent heard that since. Also, dana, i dont know about you, but i learned a couple of things during this. One was that barack obama invited john mccain over a bunch of times for private conversations about all kinds of things they disagreed on. But president obama felt that he wanted to hear from john mccain and i can only imagine how john mccain appreciated that. Id like to have been a fly on the wall for those conversations. And of course ironically as it turned out while john mccain was against the Affordable Care act, in the end, his vote saved the Affordable Care act. As obama said, he was unpredictable i think it was obama who said it was unpredictable. I think they both did. But they were honest, theyre saying, you know, some of you heard john mccain had a temper. Oh, really . We have clips of both president s, bush and obama, sort of feeding off john mccains signature humor. Moments before my last debate ever with senator john kerry in phoenix, i was trying to gather some thoughts in the holding room. I felt a presence. Opened my eyes. And 6 inches from my face was mccain who yelled relax, relax. After all what better way to get a last laugh than to make george and i say nice things about him to a national audience. I dont know what was funnier, president obama making a joke or president bush laughing so hard that it kind of continued with his laughter and making everyone else laugh. Obviously watching it. But in the cathedral, there were big screams where i believe they were getting the feed from the camera pool so it gave an additional round of laster. You know what was also revealing to me, in addition to the fact that there had to be humor in a Memorial Service about john mccain, was his old buddy Joe Lieberman devoted to him really for the first time i think talking sort of publicly about their discussions about the vice presidency as you know, mccain has admitted it to you and to me and to others that lieberman was his first choice, but it was kind of interesting, the way that lieberman raised it today at this Memorial Service, letting the world know that it was something that they had contemplated together and they figured out, well, we really cant possibly do this. Well, they were told to figure that out by john mccains political advisers. But also, just as i toss it back to wolf, the humor there, even in, you know, liebermans speech, talking about how john mccain has the last laugh by somehow passing away on a day that made it so this was on the jewish sabbath so he had to i liked which is something that john mccain ended up having to do with Joe Lieberman so many times as they traveled together and observed the sabbath. And couldnt go to dinners because Joe Lieberman couldnt do so they sat in a hotel room instead. Wolf. It was funny, it was poignant, all of the above. One especially moving moment that Meghan Mccain shared with all of us when she was speaking about her dad, how much she loved her dad, how much respect she had for him, how much she learned from him. She told the story of how she once fell off of a horse and she learned some lessons from her dad, the way he responded. Watch this. Meghan, he said, his quiet voice that spoke with authority and meant you had best obey. Get back on the horse. I did. And because i was a little girl i resented it. Now that i am a woman i look back across that time and see the expression on his face when i climbed back up and rode again and see the pride in his eyes as he said nothing is going to break you. For the rest of my life, whenever i fall down, i get back up. You know, maeve, you got to be moved. So much her fathers daughter. You think about those 5 1 2 years in captivity, the stories we all know about him being tied up and in incredible physical pain. He imparted that grit to his children. You know, and throughout his life, didnt wouldnt even show that people around him how much pain he was living in, you know, not being able to comb his hair or put on his jacket but he never let that physical pain show and he didnt complain about it and thats clearly something that he wanted to pass on to his children. All of us saw that in action. Those of us who covered him over the years. No question. You could see his physical pain, but also his joy at being a bell able to run. He considered it a privilege to run in 2000 but certainly in 2008. Ill never forget him conceding in 2008, saying it was a privilege to concede, because he, you know, reached those highest levels. But i thought an interesting historical takeaway from today, a lesson, was really viewing the 2000 campaign, the primary, and the 2008 campaign through todays lens of history. To hear president obama, i dont recall him ever talking about this specifically about that moment weve seen replay so much this week about the woman in minnesota at the end in the waning days of the 2008 campaign when she was standing up to besmirch obamas character and saying she was afraid of him, mccain grabbed the mic and say no, no, maam. The president said he was grateful but he wasnt surprised. It was johns instinct. Defending americas character, not just mine. I think that is a takeaway from today. A bit of what senator mccain was trying to do was perhaps put his final stamp on what really was an ugly side of that 2008 campaign. People questioning barack obama, Barack Hussein obamas citizenship. And i think when we look at this 10 to 12 year period of history here, certainly interesting to see john mccains role in it. This ties into dougs point about the absence of sarah palin. Right. And Joe Liebermans story about their conversation and the reality of 2008 was he couldnt do what he wanted to do. He couldnt be the candidate he wanted to be. Because he had to deal with forces within his own party that wouldnt allow him to do it. There was a statement in who was invited, wasnt invited. Lieberman spoke to this moment. Thin reckoning with that period in our history. This is barack obama talking about how important telling the truth is for politicians. Something that also will resonate especially right now. He understood that if we get in the habit of bending the truth to suit political expediency or party orthodoxy, our democracy will not work. Thats why he was willing to buck his own party at times. Occasionally work across the aisle on Campaign Finance reform and immigration reform. Thats why he championed a free and independent press as vital to our democratic debate. And the fact that it earned him some good coverage didnt hurt either. John understood as jfk understood, as Ronald Reagan understood, that part of what makes our country great is that our membership is based not on our bloodline, not on what we look like, what our last names are, its not based on where our parents or grandparents came from. Or how recently they arrived. But on adherence to a common creed. That all of us are created equal. And endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. In other words, jamie what president obama was saying, that john mccain believed that honesty is the best policy. Dont lie. Always tell the truth. Also, the press is not the enemy of the american people. I dont think there was anything subtle about his choice to say that. I think, as we discussed earlier this week, i think weve had three audiences for all of these eulogies, to comfort the family and friends, to celebrate the man and the third audience is donald trump and that was directed at him. It wasnt mentioned here, but we ought to also recognize another you know, president obama said he knew and that selfawareness made him all the more compelling. He also spoke to those moments where he felt he had fallen short such as the South Carolina moment in 2000. Right. When he for reasons of trying to win the primary grudgingly upheld the confederate flags hanging over the State Capitol there and he went back and addressed that later and said he made a mistake. How many politicians do that now . He believed that was a necessary part of politics. This week also went to the 40th co commemoration of Martin Luther kings birthday at the lorraine hotel. Even barack obama didnt go that year because he felt the need to apologize for having voted in 1983 not to make that a federal holiday. He believes that is what honor was about, admitting your mistakes. I think the message that came out over this last week is john mccain wanted to solve problems. He wanted to reach across the aisle. And that he was tired of all the bickering. But john wanted solutions. And i think in everybodys tributes and in their eulogies, thats what we heard. That he wasnt going to stand there and just because somebody says something, he would listen to you, he would listen to your complaints or your congratulations or your ideas, but he wanted to know both sides and then Work Together collectively. Today, after looking at this funeral, we all need to come together, all together, and, remember, we all are americans. We have problems. On the forefront. And if we dont all come together, its on both sides. Governor we all have to come together to solve them. How many conversations did you have with him about the issues in our politics and the difficulty of trying ive had a lot of conversations with john mccain. I travelled with john mccain. We started our careers together. He ran for the house of representatives. I ran for the house in phoenix. He ran for the senate. I ran for the senate. And for 33 years, we ran parallel so we were on buses, trains, planes, and we discussed these things. And he was a Problem Solver. And i, you know, i took a lot of bullets too. No bad pun intended. But because i would defend him, because i knew john mccain. I knew what was in his heart. I knew he wanted to do what was the best for our country and i knew that he listened. But there was just like such a pileon all the time and nobody wanted to talk or there was so strong differences. And that caused him to be people want to call him maverick but he was a Problem Solver and he loved our country and he was a man of greatness. I think the question is the reality to all of this. Theres no question, you know, that a week in here, after seven days of mourning, the lesson is politics is broken. Theres little civility. But as the audience sort of needs to hear this listening. President trump was at the golf course today which is, you know, certainly his right to do so. But a lot of his supporters simply thought john mccain was a rhino, republican in name only. My question is will this change politics in washington. Will this change politics in america. I hate to be skeptical here but i think theres a little sign it will, at least in the short term. While we watched this moving Memorial Service, the president was at his golf club outside of washington, d. C. But he was also tweeting. Tweeting about the absence of canada, nafta and other issues including the mueller probe. Give us an historic perspective. I thought that was disrespectful of President Trump to be tweeting during the Memorial Service. I might be oldfashioned in that regard. I think he should have taken a timeout with it. I thought dr. Kissinger made a point that maybe we havent reflected on. That dissidents all over the world loved john mccain, means dissidents for freedom and democracy. And who this week hasnt fallen in love with john mccain, russia, the moscow times beating him up as a relic of the cold war and writing nasty things about him. But anywhere around the world where people are fighting for democracy, the name john mccain meant something. He was exported our american ideals all over the globe. One of the paul bearers was vladimir karamurza, who was here the other day, still fighting for democracy, a protegee of the slain Opposition Leader in russia. When i went into senator mccains center office, a little bit ago, he had a photo of boris nemsef in his office. So dissidents around the world had him in mind and he had them in mind. There was even a reading by former senator kelly ayotte that spoke to that, the destiny of the righteous. When i was talking to some of john mccains friends this week, they said he wanted that to be part of the service because its a message to every dissident around the world. Dont give up. Believe in what other people might see as lost causes. I think it was also kissinger today who said this was a much needed moment of unity for the comfort and something for us to honor and sustain and to zelenys point, well see whether that is what happens going forward. Jamie, i think if senator mccain were watching, he would have been pleased with what he heard. Yes, he would have. Ill tell you, i apologize for my phone just going off, but it was a republican trying to text and what he said was obviously an older republican. Did you hear, ill never have emergency bypass on my phone again, but what he said was, did you hear what president obama said, and the part he was talking about was when president obama said that john mccain made us better president s. Meaning the three of them there. Just as he made the Senate Better and the country better. And i think that sums up a lot of what we heard. He certainly did. What a really moving, moving moment in american history. Cnns special coverage of the funeral of senator mccain continues right after a quick break. Experience a blend of refined craftsmanship. And raw power. New innovations. And a tradition of excellence. Luxury. And performance, engineered to take the crown. The lexus ls 500 and ls 500h. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. As moms, we send our kids out into the world, full of hope. And we dont want Something Like meningitis b getting in their way. Meningococcal group b disease, or meningitis b, is real. 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That service radiated the values close to john mccains heart, pride, patriotism, his strong relationships as a beloved colleague, father and husband. And a reminder that theres more to washington than your personal politics. His daughter, Meghan Mccain, giving a heartfelt, powerful tribute to her father. That sentiment echoed throughout the service. I am here before you today saying the words i have never wanted to say. Giving this speech i have never wanted to give. We gather here to mourn the passing of american greatness. The real thing. Not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly. Nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served. America does not boast because she has no need to. The america of john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was always great. [ applause ] love defined my father. As a young man, he wondered if he would live up to his distinguished li eed lineage. I miss him so badly. Dad, i always love you. I always have. All that i am, all that i hope, all that i dream is grounded in what you taught me. You loved me and you showed me what love must be. My father is gone and my sorrow is immense. But i know his life and i know it was great because it was good. Some lives are so vivid, its difficult to imagine them ended. Some voices are so vibrant and distinctive, its hard to think of them

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