Here by arresting and prosecuting these Police Officers. And i say thats ridiculous. Im not choosing sides. Cnns Vanessa Yurkovich joins me now. What kind of reaction comes from this . The two officers have been charged with seconddegree assault. They pled not guilty. And thats after it was seen on video. They were pushing 75yearold man to the ground. He lay on the ground bleeding as the two officers passed him by. But just last hour, there was a large group of Law Enforcement here who were here in support of these two officers. They were released on their own recog zkocogni recognizance. They were arraigned and released. The crowd erupted in cheers. You could feel they were here to support those two officers. Now this came after the community, governor cuomo, the county executive called for these two officers to be fired and charged. The District Attorney here moving very swiftly, bringing those charges. This happened thursday night. This incident with Martin Gugino and they were charged this morning. Now last night here in buffalo, there were black lives matters protests. And it was very peaceful. The officers, the cops and the state police were here. They were monitoring the situation but there were no incidents. Today we are expecting more protests here in buffalo. And they are expected to again be peaceful. But there is that 8 00 p. M. Curfew, fredricka, and after that curfew passes, after 8 00 p. M. , police and Law Enforcement will be asking folks to go home. That incident that we saw with Martin Gugino where he was pushed to the ground, that did happen after curfew. Last night was rather peaceful here and organizers are hoping for the same thing tonight here in buffalo. Vanessa in buffalo, thank you so much. Joining me to discuss, areva martin, cnn legal analyst and civil rights attorney along with charles ramsey, former Philadelphia Police commissioner. Good to see both of you. Morning, fred. Areva, the District Attorney says hell hand it to the grand jury and intent will be key. Listen. The analysis that the grand jury has to consider is whether or not there was intent to cause physical injury here. Thats the legal analysis here. So i think there is, obviously. I thought there was i clearly think there is. But at the end of the day, the way our legal system works is that im not a king. I dont decide it. So i will put this case in front of the grand jury. 23 members of society. From at large. So areva, intent. How will that be proven . Will it be a big challenge for prosecutors . I dont think its going to be a challenge at all, fred, when you look at that videotape. The prosecutor is going to present this evidence to the grand jury. And we know the standard with respect to grand juries is pretty low in terms of how the prosecutor presents the case. If he presents the case, the case that we all witness before our very eyes, i dont think theres going to be any issue with this grand jury coming back with an indictment against these two officers. One thing really bothered me, fred, listening to the press conference by this District Attorney. He said that he was being accused of choosing sides, and he gave statements to me trying to justify even the charges that he filed against these officers. Thats so much a part of the problem that we see in these police cases. If police commit a crime, if the crime is videotaped, like in this case, those officers should be held accountable. And the justice the District Attorney shouldnt feel any need to justify why hes moving forward with charges. We have to end this system where the Police Expect to be treated above the law or to have some kind of special favor as it relates to District Attorneys. Thats the symbiotic relationship we keep pointing to which is so problematic in so many of these cases. What does that say about the current climate as it pertains to that. We heard from vanessas reporting that there were people cheering for the officers, and we also know that what, some 57 officers walked off the Riot Control Team as a result of the two being suspended and now consequently, you know, facing charges. So there was a lot of empathy that is going to these officers. I say good riddance to those 57 officers that stepped down from that team. If they cant protect and serve, if they cant conduct themselves as professionals, if they cant engage in crowd control without resorting to the kind of violence that we saw in that videotape, they should not be officers. They should not be on the streets protect anything citizens. And as it relates to the cheering, i find that utterly disgusting. Thats the kind of culture that were trying to break. Thats why millions of people around the world are protesting. And they continue to protest even after the officers in mr. Floyds case have been arrested because those arrests dont end the injustices that permeate our criminal Justice System from policing to prosecution, even through trials and actual convictions or the lack of convictions that we see in so many of these cases. And that those officers would cheer, rather than hold, respect the decision by the District Attorney to hold those officers accountable is disgusting to me. Chief ramsey, your thoughts on the cheering, the support that some of the officers are giving to the two who are now facing charges . And also do you think that these charges are fitting . Well, as far as the charges go, obviously, thats something that the District Attorney reviewed and made a decision to move forward with charges. When i watch the video, i, too was appalled with what i saw. When they pushed the man, who is clearly a senior citizen, i dont know if they intended to push him to the ground, but that was the result. Thats what happened. And also what disturbed me which i think also may have influenced the charges is the fact that they failed to render any first aid. Several other officers just walked right by the man even though there was blood from around his head. It appears that one wants to but then another officer right, and hes pushed away. Discourages it. Hes pushed away. So that certainly didnt help their cause when it comes to a review by the District Attorney. And later as it is presented to a grand jury. As far as officers in support, listen, if 57 officers decided to resign from their positions, which to me, you dont get a vote in that. Thats where i need you, thats where i put you. But theyre not doing us any favors. And i agree it would have been better if they just resigned from the force. If thats what they feel, then we dont need them as Police Officers. In todays job climate, i guarantee you, you fire 57 people willing to take on a new job and do a very good job at it. And quickly, chief ramsey, were seeing so many contrasts now. Caught on videotape. And you see the world now. Justice is for everyone. That videotape, the 75yearold white man being pushed down by Buffalo Police officers. And then you see some officers, Police Leadership hugging protesters in solidarity. Which is it . Is this a turning point, or are these reminders that change is going to be slow if it comes at all . I would like to think that the majority of Police Officers bend toward what youve seen with the Florida StatePolice Captain that you just showed. And officers walking arm in arm or taking a knee and things of that nature. But having said that, it doesnt mean we dont have some officers who just dont conduct themselves properly. They use excessive force. They have no business being Police Officers. And we have to root them out. You put more pressure on Police Leadership to root them out . Well, it is up to Police Leadership, but you also have other issues you have to deal with. Police unions, for example. Way too powerful in my opinion. I cant tell you how many people i fired and they just got back through arbitration. Ive got a couple i fired more than once and they were able to get their jobs back. And a lot of that is done behind closed doors and the light of day isnt shown. So we need to be able to read those cases and have that arbitrator stand it up and say y did you let this person back on knowing this is an individual not fit to be a Police Officer. All right. Well leave it there for now. Chief charles ramsey, areva martin, thanks to you both. Really appreciate it. Still ahead protesters are gathering in washington, d. C. , rallying against Police Brutality and racism. And the death of george floyd. Well take you there live. 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This africanamerican young man. He just read this to this crowd. They all listened intently. They were all saying, sure, of course, man, go ahead. And he made his remarks. He read this oped about Race Relations and then he started to sob. He started to cry at the end, and people just came up and hugged him. Just started hugging him. And it really brings a tear to your eye when you see what is happening here. And it is happening organically that people just want to talk. They want to share. They want to be with each other. And there is no program. Theres nothing really formal here thats going on, just people passing around this bullhorn that have something to say to each other. And that is whats taking place here on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. As you know, very historic and symbolically significant location. 57 years ago where Martin Luther king gave his i have a dream speech. And 200,000 gathered for civil rights and Racial Justice and workers rights. And this is also going to be another gathering. Another place where the anniversary, the 57th anniversearies, august 28th, there will be another march on washington. That according to the reverend al sharpton to acknowledge and appreciate so many black families who have had relatives slain and killed and abused by police authority. And many of the allies here who say enough is enough. And so it really is kind of very touching and extraordinary moment that is taking place here as young people and various athneat ethnic backgrounds and diversity among people who just want to speak to each other. And thats exactly what theyre doing right now, fred. They are just speaking to each other, hoping that each other will understand what they have to say. And there have been so many pivotal moments, you know, over the last 12 days in particular. But even far beyond that. Pivotal moments where people just need to hug each other. Theyre feeling very emotional. Sometimes people are weeping and they feel like they cant put a finger on why, but this is definitely a moment where its a touchstone for so many of us. Suzanne malveaux, thank you very much. As tens of thousands continue to protest Police Brutality in minneapolis, a City Council Member has taken a stand against rebuilding a Police Station in order to honor the protesters message. Cnns Josh Campbell joins me from outside the Police Station ravaged in minneapolis last week. Many of us watched it live on television. You were there. Not far away from it all. Josh, what are you learning now about this movement to is it almost like to preserve, you know, whats left of that building . Thats right, fred. Whats left of the building is still being sifted through right now. You can see behind me that fire, forensic investigators are still trying to pick up the pieces here and identify exactly what happened. As you pan up, you can see that now there are some boarded windows there. They were shattered. This was that scene we were at that night when fire was set to this building. But as you mentioned, there are people here in the community who are questioning what should happen next, including one City Council Member who said in her view, this building behind me should become a symbol. Lets listen here. As the Council Member for that area, i will say that i do not support rebuilding the 3rd precinct as a Police Headquarters or operations. I think that it is extremely important for us to symbolically and physically respect the legacy of the moment by ensuring that that area is reclaimed by community and by healing and by justice. Her comments there are being echoed by other members of the community we talked to. I talked to one man who has been a resident of this area his whole life. He doesnt want to see a Police Station here. He wants this building to stand as it is. Burn marks and all so that people in this community as they go by and Police Officers, in his view, will remember exactly what happened here. The response from the community at the death of george floyd. What happens next will yet to be seen whether they rebuild. But again, some members of this Community Want to see it become something else, fred. Josh, what more can you tell us about the city of minneapolis voting to implement a chokehold ban among other reforms. Yeah, so there are a number of investigations under way right now into the actions of these officers, including by the state, by the federal government, by the Human Rights Commission here in the state. But city officials in minneapolis, they dont want to wait for an investigation. They are instituting reforms now in an Emergency City Council session that was called yesterday by mayor jacob frey. He signed a temporary restraining order instituting new reforms, including a blocking the use of these chokeholds, these neck restraints. The same type of restraint in the video with the officer on his knee on George Floyds neck. Thats now going to be banned. In addition to that, there are a number of other processes that theyre instituting. One of which is if you are a Police Officer and you see a colleague using one of these techniques, its not enough for you to verbally tell them to stop. You must physically intervene. And, in fact, for officers that dont intervene, that dont stop their colleagues from using these types of tactics, they themselves will be disciplined the same amount as the person who actually used the technique. So theyre trying to send a message through the department that these techniques are going to be banned. They are trying to institute these reforms that so many members of the community here have continued to call for, fred. Standing by and equally culpable. Josh campbell, thank you so much. Many others are gathering today to honor the life taken which started all of these protests. A second memorial for george floyd is expected to begin in the next few hours. Its happening in North Carolina where he was born. But this one will look very different from the public display held in minneapolis on thursday. Cnns Dianne Gallagher is in rayford, North Carolina. What more can you tell us about whats expected . You are exactly right. This is not going to look like what we saw on thursday and probably not like what well see next week in houston. The w