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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow June 20, 2017

What we do know about the race in suburban atlanta, is being seen as a referendum on the Trump Presidency in a district thats been in republican hands for a long, long time. So rn po the president weighed in not once but twice this morning. Democrat jon ossoff and Republican Karen Handel, they are neck and neck. We heard from both of them within the last hour. Cnns Jason Carroll joins us live from marietta inside the most watched Congressional District on earth this morning, jason. Wow, thats quite the leadin. Youre not far off the truth. You look at how many votes were cast early in this election. 140,000, john, those are the types of numbers you normally see during a president ial campaign. This is the most expensive race of its kind in u. S. History. 50 million spent between both candidates if you also add in super pac spendinged an pac spending as well. When you look at the lay of the land in terms of what happened here, the sixth Congressional District has been reliably republican for decades but during the 2016 campaign, trump barely eked out a win here. Democrats saw an opportunity. Thats where you had a man by the name of jon ossoff entering the race. Early on, very much making it about President Trump making a very critical of President Trump. On the other side, saying ossoff doesnt have the political experience, hes basically just a liberal doing what hes been doing. Now what you have is him saying the race is about each other and not about the president. The people of sixth district want this to be about the sixth district. Theyre not interested in hollywood and california coming in and buying this seat and they are very concerned about an individual who does not even live in this district. He is a liberal in just the same along the lines of nancy pelosi. Hes going to be their vote in the house. What the people of the sixth want is a voice for them. The contrast in this district is between a career politician, my opponent karen handel, who is notorious for cutting off funding for life saving Breast Cancer screenings at planned parenthood or a fresh voice who wants to work to get things done, work to make health care more accessible and more affordable for wel aomen and fo with preexisting conditions. Lets look at the implications here. If ossoff wins, thats going to be a symbolic victory for democrats Going Forward. Hopefully giving them momentum they think they need going into midterm elections. If hand l wins here, again, symbolic victory for republicans because what it does is it shows that what the president has been doing is working, gives gop lawmakers in washington a mandate to move forward on his agenda. The problem is, for both sides, john, the race is just too close to call, john. I got to tell you, jason, both those candidates look simply exhausted. Probably almost as tired all as the voters in that district where you are this morning. They are tired, yes, no doubt. Its a big day for secrecy on capitol hill. In a few hours, Vice President mike pebs will meet behind closed doors with Senate Republican leaders to talk about their Health Care Bill that practically no one has seen and for which there are virtually no details. But whatever is in it, it is promising enough to leaders they want the senate to vote on it as soon as next week. Incidentally, what does the Vice President think about secrecy . Listen to this. Its simply wrong for legislation that will affect 100 of the American People to be negotiated behind closed doors. He wrote that. Of course he wrote it back in 2010. I guess times have changed. Democrats, who have almost no power over these developments, held something of a ventathon overnight. Cnns Suzanne Malveaux live on capitol hill with the very latest. Good morning, john. Democrats are seizing on the Vice President s comments there. They also, while many of us were sleeping late last night, they were on the senate floor. It was kind of a talkathon if you will, waging their own protest to at least call attention to the super secret process going on behind closed doors to craft this legislation by Senate Republicans. Theyve asked for a number of things. All of them rejected. One of the things that wed heard about was whether or not theyd make the text public and available. There is no text to this bill so far. Public hearings. That has always been lee rejected. So Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell saying none of those things are on the table. Earlier this morning, i spoke with senator dick durbin, democrat, and asked him what can democrats possibly do, why did they wage this protest, and are they going to slow or try to slow the government down. Heres his response. It takes three republican senators. If three republican senators say this is the wrong way to change the Health Care System in america, we can stop this and move toward a more constructive process. One thats more bipartisan. One thats more open. More public. So the American People know whats going to happen. John, some republicans are pushing back, saying that the democratic process, as you mentioned back in 2010, was not completely open. I did put that to senator durbin. He said, well, at least we had some public hearings following that bill. At least the writing of that legislation. And 25 days of debate. If you look at the calendar and republicans side, they certainly will not be offering that. It will be more in the tune of hours and not days for that to be public. But what we will see today is Vice President mike pence who in the course could be a tiebreaker in all of this. Will be meeting behind the scenes with republican lawmakers to talk about what they have so far. A temperature check, if you will, in terms of some of the details, john. They may not get 25 hours of debate, lettate lone 25 days, but it might be the best way to get it passed. Suzanne malveaux, capitol hill, thank you so much. Joining me, jason miller, former Communications Director for the trump transition team. David swerlick, assistant editor at the washington post. And jeff weaver, former Campaign Manager for Bernie Sanders. Gentlemen, lets play a game of what if with the georgia six special election. Jeff weaver, in 20 seconds or less, if ossoff, the democrat, wins, what does he win, what does it mean . Well, what it means is that the American Public are sick and tired of this trump agenda of an attempt to take away health care from 23 Million People and as weve seen over the course of three special elections, democrats are far outperforming how they did in the president ial election year. I think john os so ofs going to put it over the top today. All right, what if he loses . Look, this has been a very close race. The previous incumbent price i think won this seat by 23 points. Its a staunchly republican seat. The fact that ossoff has gone toetotoe with his republican opponent i think is a testament to the strength of the democrat message at this particular moment. Jason miller, you get to play now. What if karen handel wins, what does that mean . I think with this will show is voters in georgia and largely around the country, as this race is becoming nationalized, do not want to see another vote for nancy pelosi being sent up to congress. I think theres a backlash were seeing going on right now thats really galvanizing and firing up the Republican Base where voters are upset with the Kathy Griffin treatment toward President Trump. We see the terrible witchhunt going on against President Trump in washington now. We even see the fake art in the park thats dominated some of the headlines. I think Republican Voters are really fired up about this. Theyre going to show up in big numbers today. One other critical point going on here, i think jeff is really someone who can speak to this as well, its important to point out that the Democratic Base really has been demotivated and in shambles ever since the dnc and secretary clinton and others stole this election, the primary election, from Bernie Sanders last year. The democrats have not been able to get their footing back ever since then. You went over your 20second allotment there. In 20 seconds or less, what if then the Republican Karen Handel loses . I dont think shes going to lose today. I think shes going to win bigley. I know everyones saying its close going into today, election day. I think handel probably wins upwards 4 or 5 points. I think she wins it running away. I just dont see her losing at all, even though its a tight district. Jason miller, not playing the expectations game. Youre supposed to say it would be an amazing upset if she wins. We appreciate your honesty. David swerdirck, obviously this is a race that people are trying to nationalize here, people all across the country looking at this as some kind of referendum. When we wake up tomorrow, will it tell us something Going Forward . Well, if ossoff wins and the democrats finally get a win, i think it will just mean a faeve broke. Republicans won the special in kansas. Those were republican districts they were supposed to win. If democrats can pick it of, even if its a close race, i think that suggests that they have something to build on, but i think it will be getting ahead of ourselves to say they can all of a sudden start dreaming about taking back congress or taking back the house. If handel wins, i think it just suggests that a republican won a republican district even though she was facing a wellfinanced democratic challenger, and democrats really have to go back to the drawing board and realize that part of their message is an antitrump message, john, but part of their message has to be a prospective message heading into 2018 about what they want to offer voters that theyll do rather than what the administration wont do. I say this as an assistant Little League coach here, democrats are running out of participation trophies. I mean, sooner or later, jeff weaver, you know, youve got to win somewhere, right, so do you believe the Democratic Base . Jason miller suggested the Democratic Base is not energized. Is that for real . El wiwell, nothing could be further from the truth. I think youve seen it in the et stroos of this country with the womens march and other marches across the country. The base is very energized. I would say this, this is the first of the three special elections where youve had financial parity between the candidates. In the case of montana, quist received very little money where he was pounded with 5 million of koch brother and other money on negative ads. Thompson, kansas, got no outside help. This is the first time weve seen a democrat candidate in one of these special elections get the kind of Financial Support they need to go toetotoe with the republicans and surprise surprise, theyre going toetotoe. Ossoffs going toetotoe with handel in georgia. If these other candidates have had the same kind of resources, not taking anything away from ossoff, i think you would have seen similar results in those places. All right, jason miller, lets turn, jason, if we can, to health care, to all the details we know inside the senate Health Care Bill. I was silent there because we dont know any of the details of the bill because its being knee gosh negotiated behind closed doors. You were listening as we read the pence tweet from 2010 where he said its wrong for legislation that will affect 100 of the people to be negotiated behind closed doors. Will you grant its at least a little bit ironic, jason, that this is happening in complete secrecy . John, of course the republicans are going to go and put together what they want to move forward for the legislation and then of course theyll be some floor debate over this. The exact time parameters, we dont know. The republicans have every right to negotiate their own plan, what they want to put forward, and then get that out for people to debate. I think the fact that the democrats are seizing on the process aspect of this and not the fact that obamacares failing in the fact that democrats dont have their own legislation or real bill that will go and help people and turn around this cliff were heading to with obamacare i think is really telling the lack of direction and the rudderless aspect of the Democratic Party now. Youre talking about the same process that republicans are talking about back in 2010. No one likes it when the other side negotiates between closed doors, david, and to jason millers point, yes, there will be floor debate. Maybe a few hours. 10 to 20 hours. Two days if were following the time frame were getting a sense of right now from republican leadership. It does seem as if theyre trying to get this through very, very quickly before these senators have to go home for the july 4th recess, david. Theyre trying to get it through, done quickly and without a lot of rancor on either the house or the senate side. Look, jason is my man, 100 grand, but jason, you know this is exactly the argument that republicans made in 2009 and 2010 about the democrats process. Partly this idea that democrats were, you know, cooking this up in secret. Look, republicans have not been consistent on this issue. And thats actually been a problem for them as they try to get their own version of this bill passed. If democrats had done Something Like medicare for all back in 09, republicans would probably be doing something right now that looked very similar to the romney care obamacare plan that used to be a republican plan. Now that they have to replace that plan, theyre looking for alternativings. They cant agree between House Republicans who want it a little more conservative, house senators that want it a little more in the middle. Jeff weaver, quick last word though, democrats, though, they vented last night, but can they do much more than vent at this point . Well, the process is difficult with this Senate Reconciliation procedure thats being used to pass this bill. But i do think, look, on this topic, john, the American People, the polls are all consistent. I mean, huge majority of the American People are opposed to what the republicans are doing. Thats why theyre trying to do it in secret and sneak out of washington before they go home for july 4th. They know if this thing is hanging out there, when they go home, theres going to be a lot of angry constituents at their town meetings. Jason miller, david swarlick, jason weaver, youre all 100 in my book on a tuesday. New information about former security adviser Michael Flynn, potentially controversial trips and meetings that democrats say he did not disclose. Plus, a u. S. Citizen dies after being in activity in north korea. John mccain calls it murder. This morning, how will the president respond . And forget mixed messaging, how about no messaging . 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Later, interestingly enough, he did disclose an october meeting where he went to saudi arabia for some meetings and it appears, at least to these congressional leaders, he did not disclose key details in this security clearance form. Weve heard a lot of talk about this security clearance form where it seems consistently some officials now working for the Trump Administration did not fill out certain contacts they had with foreign officials. In flynns case, it seems he left out key details about why he was there, who he was visiting, who paid for the trip and the other thing thats really interesting here, at least according to these congressional leaders, is that he didnt the hotel he disclosed he stayed at does not exist. So they have now sent a letter to his attorney, a sevenpage letter, requesting more information on those meetings and also, finally, you know, the fbi is continuing to look at these meetings, to look at his business transactions as the investigation into the russia meddling continues. All right, a hotel that doesnt exist, thank you very much. Joining me now, the former assistant special Watergate Special prosecutor. Hes also a partner at dorsey and whitney llp. Nick, thanks for bein

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