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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Martin Savidge July 9, 2014

Looking at here, members are about to demand answers. They want to know why thousands of immigrants, mostly women and children are suddenly flooding over the border. Youre looking at live pictures here from the border as well. Both at Border Crossing filtds and places like here, testimony from Government Agency heads, its expected to be pretty fiery as you can manage, as well, there will be questions coming from key lawmakers. Meanwhile, president obama will address the crisis later today, taking a break from fund raising to talk to one of his most vocal critics, Texas Governor, rick perry. That meeting is going to take place in dallas, but its hundreds of miles from the u. S. Mexico border, a place that the president will not be visiting on this trip. All eyes are on this meeting to see if the two can come up with any workable solution to this crisis. Earlier this morning, Democratic Texas representative henry celluar says the president needs to travel and see the crisis for himself. Look, if hes afraid if he goes down to the border and hes going to own the situation, let me tell you, he cant hide from this because he can do this Long Distance the way hes doing it, hes still going to own the situation. And like i said, a leaders going to be defined by how he or she handles a situation, a crisis, and this is certainly a humanitarian crisis that were facing down at the border. We are covering the story as only cnn can from washington all the way to texas. Chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash has more on the show down meeting between president obama and his onetime president ial opponent, Texas Governor rick perry. Reporter oh to be a fly on the wall, president obama will meet with gop Texas Governor rick perry, obamas chief antagonist on the crisis at perrys border. My message to president obama is to secure this border, mr. President. Finally address this issue and secure this border. Reporter what perry really wanted was not a private meeting, but a public trip, together, to the boarder to give the president a firsthand look at the affects of thousands of children flooding to the u. S. Illegally. Obama will be in texas in part for a pair of political fundraisers. Meeting with perry is a compromise of sorts. Following public sparring. Including the president s spokesman mocking the governors message from the white house podium. The truth is its hard to take seriously governor perrys concerns. Reporter perry has been so outspoken against the immigration policies, he even floated conspiracy theories. I have to believe that when you do not respond in any way, that you are either inept or you have some al tier your motive of which you are functioning from. Reporter he never expanded on what that obama al tier your motive would be. With all eyes focussed on his state, perry is seeing the political stars align, taking on the president on an issue, immigration that sources close to perry tell cnn caused him the most political damage during his last run for president. I dont think you have a heart. Reporter defending state funded tuition for illegal imgraduates turned off gop primary voters, and allowed the nominee to take a devastating shot at perry. You say you have the experience, its a bit like saying the College Coach thats lost 40 games in a row has the experience to go to the nfl. Reporter who can forget one of the most memorable gaffes in modern political history . Commerce, and lets see, i cant, the third one, i cant, sorry. Oops. Reporter perry told the lead earlier this year, back surgery and pain medication were to blame. Anyone who watched that campaign knows a very humbling time for me. Reporter this is the new rick perry, openly trying to redeem himself as a smart, capable politician. And panther have i open that hes considering another president ial run in 2016. He realizes a big problem four years ago is that he wasnt prepared on a policy level. Not only does the border crisis and the state allow him to get on the right side of his gop base on immigration, brianna, he also is working hard to bone up on other issues. Sources ive talked to close to perry say that hes multiple believes, you name it trying to be as prepared to take the job of the man who hes going to meet with today and that is the president. He wants to be ready just in case. Its just clear how Many Political forces there are at play here, dana, youre spelling it out there. Stick around, were going to bring in senior White House Correspondent right now. We have, we have so many folks i cant keep up, the camera cant keep up with me. She is along the board in mission, texas. Todd gillman, he is Washington Bureau chief with the dallas morning news. And we have cnn political comment at a timer maria cardona. Jim, you, president obama is asking for 3. 7 billion to handle this crisis, but then, you know, saying that kids who are coming across the border, they cant stay if the money isnt going to really deal with them. Well, some of it is being used. What are the other things we see this funding request, what would it be used for . Well, almost half of that 3. 7 billion, brianna, would go for caring for those unaccompanied minors. They need a place to stay and the administration at this point cannot say, definitively how long theyll be staying in this country because as you know, brianna, the law is different when you talk about migrants coming from mexico, the law basically says they can be turned around and sent home immediately, but if they come from Central America or noncon tig white house countries, they can be allowed to stay and entered into the refugee system in this country. That takes longer, thats where these kids from honduras and guatemala are in right now. Now, the administration is also talking about devoting resources to its stepped up Border Security, and even some surveillance. They want to fly unmanned drones over the Rio Grande Valley there and across the southwestern border where all these folks are pouring in. So there is a lot of money being thrown at this problem, but quite honestly, and danica talked to this as well, its pretty shocking to see the president unveil this proposal and within hours, republicans up on capitol hill are saying, high profile republicans are saying this is not going to happen. Theyre not going to give a blank check as theyre calling it to this white house to deal with this issue. And so the president is in a very, very big fix beyond just this question of whether or not he should go to the border. All right, and ed, lets talk about this. Right now the president says hes not going to show up at these border facilities. What is the sense there in texas of whether he should . You know, its a good question. I dont, i think people who live down in the border would very much like to see that youve heard several congressman from that region whove expressed that over the last few days. But i think, you know, by and large, people are much more focussed on how does this crisis come to an end now . And if that requires the president , you know, traveling to the border region and going through some of those detention centers, then thats what needs to be done. But i think people are much more focussed and concerned about where we go from here. Maybe theyre not getting hung up on all the is he going to the border, is he not going to the border . Thats where you are, youre along the rio in mission, texas, immigrants risking their lives. Talk about the kids in this situation. The president says they cant stay, but obviously they stay for a while before having a deportation hearing. Whats that pros like of sending an unaccompanied, say fiveyearold back to their country . You know brianna it is a complex pros. And i think thats why everybody is talking about it. Nobody really knows how this process is going to work. How these children are going to be sent back or, you know, if theyre going to be sent back or anything like that. What i can tell you though is that here in the border it is the talk of the town, everybodys talking about the situation, we are seeing a lot of Border Patrol activity here. The presence is very heightened here, were on the river, and weve seen a number of Border Patrol boats and also helicopters pretty much all morning long just going through, looking to see if anybody is trying to cross. And its, its really not nonstop here, brianna. All right, and dana, lets bring you back in here to talk about this. The president wants 3. 7 billion for this problem. Thats what hes proposing to congress, but hes not just having problems with republicans, hes having problems with democrats. Like congressman cellar, heres part of what he said. All right, i guess we dont, i guess we do not have the sound there, but basically it struck me what the congressman said because he was saying the president needs to come down and he needs to lead and come down to the border. We have the sound now, lets go ahead and roll that. Ive been very straightforward on this, i as appropriate rater, i want to review what hes going to give us. We cant trust the president and say were going to give you every penny you want to, but do i want to support him . Yes, of course i want to support the president of the united states, but we have a right as congress to review the proposal that hes given us. Because keep in mind, this didnt happen last night. This is something thats been happening over a year, and therefore, we want to review exactly what hes talking about. So dana, talk about this, you see him there saying he wants to support the president , but even a democrat is having miss givings about the fine print here in the president s proposal. Not just that, brianna, he said we cant just trust the president. This is a democrat saying we cant just trust the democratic president. Boy if they dont sum up whats going on and the things that the president is up against on capitol hill, nothing does. Look, part of the reason why this is so complicated is because the president is asking for this money and both sides are wanting policy changes to go along with that. The republicans want policy changes that are traditional on their kree toe when it comes to immigration. Be more robust on Border Security and so forth. Democrats, many of them are concerned that the policy right now that jim was talking about that allows kids or anybody who come illegally from mexico or canada to go right back, but those who come from Central America to have a hearing, Many Democrats are concerned about that policy changing. They dont want the kids from Central America to be able to, as one told me, just go through a revovling door and sent right back. Thats why you have all of these forces that are contradict ri. You see up there this hearing we were talking about thats beginning right now. Tom coburn who is the ranking republican on this committee who said on cross fire last night that this is so much money if you look at it the, its 0,000 a kid, he said we could spend money on first class tickets to fly them all back to their homes and it would cost half as much. Not even half as much. That gives you a sense of where some of the republicans are with regard to just the actual money. Can you fact check that for me real quick, thats a lot of money, but, when you look at that, some of it has to do with, you know, tampaing down the miss information that smugglers are giving people, deterring smugglers, cracking down on them, its not fair to say its 60,000 a kid, right . Thats right. I mean, like jim was saying, the money is going towards some of it, is going towards dealing with the refugee crisis and dealing with the children who are already in this country illegally, but a lot of it is is aimed at going for Border Security at going for bringing them back to their countries, helping to get them ree mercied in their countries and so forth. Youre exactly right, but the reason why i brought that up is because it really illustrates and speaks to the very, very deep divide over, not just the policy, but also the money that the president wants. Yeah, no doubt, it is a lot of money when youre asking for almost 4 billion. Hang tight guys, were going to continue this conversation. Right now as we speak, the Senate Homeland Security Committee wants answers on the border crisis testifying at the hearing will be the heads of federal emergency, fema, the federal Emergency Management agency, Border Patrol, several very ranking members, high ranking members of the Homeland Security and health and Human Services departments. We will be monitoring this hearing all morning, and well be back in adjust moment with some of it. Nineteen years ago, we thought, wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad . So we gave people the power of the review. And now angies list is revolutionizing local service again. You can easily buy and Schedule Services from toprated providers. Conveniently stay up to date on progress. And effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our snapfix app. Visit angieslist. Com today. He cadillac summer collection is here. During the cadillac summers best event, lease this 2014 ats for around 299 a month and make this the summer of style. All right this is what we are monitoring right now, happening on capitol hill. This is the Senate Hearing on the border crisis. We are just beginning to watch the opening testimony here. Were monitoring this, and we will bring you what should be a fiery, certainly very interesting hearing. Well bring you some of that. Now i want to get back to our discussion on the border crisis. Lets bring in todd gillman, hes the Washington Bureau chief from the dallas morning news. Todd, you are pretty familiar with this topic because of the outlet that you work for. This is not an overnight crisis. Do you think the government should have seen this coming . Well, they absolutely have seen much of this coming. And the white house has been trying to spin this for the past week or so since it really erupted as we did see this coming and thats why weve been pushing reform and thats why in their version of the finger pointing, theyve been pointing at the republicans and trying to shift some of the heat on to the republicans for having blocked comprehensive reform. You havent played the clip just now, but josherness said a josh earnest said a few times if rick perry would pick up the phone and put some pressure on Texas Republicans in the house who have helped block comprehensive reform. Now you know theres finger pointing in both ways, this specific crisis was not really anticipated, but if we had more resources on the border, maybe some of this could have been mitigated earlier. Theres an argument made that we are nabbing all of these people coming across the border, doesnt that mean the that the Border Security itself is in place. Maybe theres a more cyst termic problem going on in Central America and we havent been doing now diplomatically or in terps of Economic Development down there. And maria, one of the things that president obama is dealing with today is, and its clear the white house realizes they have a problem with the visuals. Hes in texas, hes not going to the border, what, there is a calculation being made here. What does he have to lose by going to the border . Well, i think the focus right now for the white house, brianna, is on actually trying to solve the problem at hand to try to take politics out of it which is nearly almost impossible to do, but also to make sure that the resources that are being put at the border to focus on this problem continue to focus on this problem. Brianna, you know better than anybody what it takes when the president travels. The president goes to the border right now, its going to be incredibly disruptive, theres going to be resources that are going to be pulled from the problem at hand to make sure that this trip will be able to happen. Thats not what the white house wants right now, they want to focus on the solutions. I think hit does need to go, i think he will go, but right now, he wants to focus on the solutions at hand, and republicans need to work with him to make sure that the, the 3. 7 billion in resources that hes asking for is given in its totality, or at least close to its totality and you know republicans cant have it both ways. They cant scream about the house being on fire, and then cut off the water supply to try to put that fire out. So they need to work with this president to make sure that solutions are happening. Yeah, washington certainly does need to get something done, but i will say the outlook is not good here. Todd gillman, maria, thank you so much to both of you. 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