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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow And Jim Sciutto November 27, 2020

Ignored the pleas from Health Experts not to travel this weekend. What are the concerns that youre hearing now . Reporter you know, experts are very concerned about the surge that theyve been talking to us about and theyre expecting there to be a surge upon the surge. Now, you were talking about travelers, according to the tsa 6. 8 million americans crisscrossed airports in the week before thanksgiving, thats of course what the cdc was not recommending people to do. So here we are the u. S. Shattering its covid19 hospitalization record, reporting more than 90,000 hospitalizations and that means that more than 90,000 americans are waking up this morning in a hospital room. As for cases, for the past 24 days the u. S. Has reported more than 100,000 coronavirus cases. Now, yesterday that number was more than 110,000, the number of deaths more than 1,200. Now, that is a dip in the numbers and we expected this, we are actually expecting for these numbers to dip for the next few days. Why . Well, we know that at least 20 states did not report their covid19 numbers and they didnt report the number of deaths, either. So we are expecting these numbers to go down for the next few days. Also because testing sites were closed in some states. Now, after the numbers dip a bit we are expecting a spike. That is not the surge that experts have been telling us about, that surge will come later. Now, here in the state of florida where i am this is one of the states that did not publish its numbers yesterday but Miamidade County did publish its hospitalization numbers and here they are. Ventilator use is up 48 in the past two weeks, icus 37 and hospitalizations 26 . Now, bianna, we know that Hospital Systems across the country are being tested right now and what we hear from experts is it gets to a point where they can convert beds, regular beds into icu beds, but at some point they are going to need the staff to be able to provide that care. And we are also hearing stories of people putting off elective surgeries as well. These are grim figures. Rosa flores, thank you so much. Well, President Trump suggesting deliveries of a covid19 vaccine would start in the next two weeks. Cnns senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is following the latest. Elizabeth, is he right by suggesting that . Bianna, it does not appear that he is right. It may be a couple of weeks after that and of course, bianna, that is the question on everyones mind, when will we get a vaccine . So lets take a listen to what President Trump said yesterday. We are rounding the curve. The vaccines are being delivered literally it will start next week and the week after and it will hit the frontline workers and seniors and doctors, nurses, a lot of people. Now, in order for vaccine to be delivered we are told by the cdc in order for vaccines to be delivered the fda needs to issue an emergency use authorization. The fda needs to actually do that. The fda cant do that until they meet with an Advisory Committee of independent experts. So lets take a look at a calendar because i think this will help lay it all out. That fda Advisory Committee is not meeting until december 10th. December 10th. So thats not next week, thats the week after. And then we are told by the head of the fda branch that does all of this work, he said earlier this week that it will take weeks to make a decision. He said its possible it could be done in days, but more likely in weeks. So even if it were done in days to weeks it still doesnt get to the timing that the president is looking for. So the bottom line here is what dr. Anthony fauci told cnn last week and that is vaccines will most likely be getting shots into arms the latter half of december. Again, we will most likely see the First Americans vaccinated in the latter half of december. Thats what dr. Fauci said. That timing up until now is Still Holding up. Bianna . And of course the first recipients are expected to be First Responders as well. Not the general public. That will be months ahead. Elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. Good to see you. Well, joining me now to discuss is the senior director for special pathogens at new York City Health and hospital. Thank you so much for joining us and happy thanksgiving to you. Lets start with thanksgiving because its black friday. What is your advice to those who are considering going out shopping today . Are they fine if they just wear a mask or are there still some risks by being in stores with others . Well, i think, first, individuals that are newly infected yesterday are not going to start showing signs and symptoms basically three to five days from now. Individuals that were tested before getting together are going to now basically be the contagious period. So the blanket recommendation is everybody should be quarantining for 14 days. Youre going to see a number of people with being able to spread the disease through pre symptomatic and asymptomatic spread. The numbers the statistics are very, very high. And so we want to make sure people dont go to black friday deals and shopping and what we want to avoid is basically the three cs, crowds, confined spaces and basically areas with, you know, poor ventilation, close contact settings. That is the advice were trying to give to everybody right now. Thats typically what you would find in a shopping mall. So your advice is to not go out now. You mentioned the 14day quarantine. I want to ask you about that because there are reports that the cdc may lower the days, may lessen that the days to perhaps ten days that americans would have to quarantine. Would you subscribe to that, because when people hear 14 they get alarmed. That is not something practical for most people. Fewer days would be better, but does that work medically . Yeah, so if you look at the scientific lit do you remember does it support it . It does support it in the sense that individuals are most contagious earlier on in their infection. Looking at some of the studies that were conducted, you know, basically, you know, samples that were taken from upper respiratory symptoms of individuals showed that no live virus was cultured essentially after day ten. So the science does back it up, however, you know, youre going to have maybe seven individuals that are outliers that will essentially still be able to spread the disease but that number is still very, very small. So a large number of individuals that essentially will start showing signs and symptoms the large bulk 50 will be within day three to six and that number continues to decrease to almost 10 after day ten. We want to have something thats practical that people can actually follow and comply with so i generally do agree with that. You also are a big subscriber as most medical experts in wearing masks. You say youre thankful to have that and to have that ability now that we have the data that shows that masks does help reduce the spread of the virus. What is your message to americans now who are home together perhaps for thanksgiving but perhaps for weeks longer through the rest of the holidays, how important is it to continue to heed the warnings from medical Health Experts to continue to wear masks . Mask wearing is so important and science proves it. The data is out, the verdict is out. We know that masks work. Even something as simple as a cloth mask thats multilayered we know it has the ability to, you know, essentially protect an individual and those around them from inhaling and exhaling by 50 to 80 percent. Its really important. I think the big kicker is this is not medical equipment like a ventilator that requires over 600 items to build or a pharmaceutical drug that has a long supply chain component. This is a cloth mask that all of us can do to protect ourselves and loved ones. Certainly something thats a high impact but, you know, basically something that everyone is able to do day to day. Of course just to reiterate the university of washingtons ihme study shows more than 40,000 lives could be saved over the next two months in 95 of americans wore masks. It really isnt a big ask if you think about it from the larger perspective. Let me talk to you about what we heard from Elizabeth Cohen and the president suggesting that vaccines are just a few weeks away. Lets take a listen to the president answering questions about that. Dont let joe biden take credit for the vaccines. If joe biden you know, joe biden failed with the swine flu. H1n1. Totally failed with the swine flu. Dont let him take credit for the vaccines because the vaccines were me and i pushed people harder than theyve ever been pushed before and we got that approved and through and nobody has ever seen anything like it. And youve got a big resistance in the fda from years and years of people working there. Given how polarized the country is right now from a Health Perspective would it be better if the president took himself out of the equation in terms of vaccines and just promoted the efficacy of it and the importance of people being vaccinated . 100 . The political theater absolutely has to stop because everything has been politicized and, in fact, what is happening is that because politics is trumping the science and the data, you know, behind these results, people are much more reluctant and hesitant. Even Health Care Workers. Im in a Health Care Setting and Health Care Workers are hesitant even though they will be the First Priority group because of all of this politicization of everything thats been going on. We need to focus on the science, focus on what is being provided to us thats evidencebased, we want to make sure were hearing from the scientists not a politician and then we want to follow the Public Health guidance. We know that a vaccine will be made available soon, nothing has been approved, we havent gone through anything yet and so certainly we are thinking that if all goes well we will have a safe and efficacious vaccine by end of december, but thats through a process that weve established and so, you know, im not going to follow trump and i know that a number of my colleagues are not as well. Well, a vaccine only works if people are vaccinated. Thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate your expertise. Thank you. Thank you. Well, a black friday like weve never seen before. Many americans choosing to shop online. Still plenty of major retailers moving away with big instore shopping promotions today. Cnns alison kosik is live in new york. Ive been watching you over the past few hours, ive seen more trickles of people coming in as the sun is coming up. What are you seeing . Reporter there are more people that have come in since weve been here since 6 00 a. M. But ive covered many black fridays and this black friday is certainly different from the others. I could easily say this mall is pretty empty considering its 9 00 a. M. On black friday and usually it would be crowded with people. Retailers are ready just in case crowds alive, theyve got those safety protocols in place, you see the stickers on the floor here to keep customers 6 feet apart when they wait to go into the store. Here at this store you have to wear a mask and if you dont have one they provide one for you. Once youre in the store theyre limiting the occupancy to 65 only. These are the ways that consumers are adapt to go a new way of shopping on black friday during the coronavirus pandemic. Its not just consumers adapting its retailers as well. They have a balancing act. They want to go ahead and keep their employees safe and keep customers safe but bring in revenue as well. Shoppers came out and they came out early, believe it or not, to avoid the crowds. Listen. I feel good. I feel safe. I feel comfortable. I like t theres nobody out here. Its perfect. Perfect for a shopper like me. Were wearing our masks and we should be, we decided to come early so we dont catch it at a very busy packed time. So thats the main reason why we got up as early as we did. I figured the earlier you go, the less crowd youre going to have to face and i dont know about you, but i think im right in terms of the crowds here, theres very few crowds here. And despite the fact that millions of americans continue to struggle during the coronavirus pandemic the National Retail federation is expecting a strong Holiday Shopping season saying that they expect to see sales up between 3 and 5 versus last year. Bianna . It is good to see that the retailers are promoting and encouraging safety protocols and measures. Alison kosik, a black friday like no other. Thank you so much. Still to come, President Trump finally says he will leave office if the Electoral College votes for president elect biden. But will he attend the inauguration . And with some colleges and universities closing their campuses for the rest of the semester, many students are forced to travel home for the holidays despite warnings from the cdc. Plus, millions are out of work as we head into this holiday season. When will those americans begin to see relief . All eyes are on congress. With this seal, this restaurant is committing to higher levels of cleanliness. 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Kristen, there was, as usual, a lot of behavior unfitting of a president including berating a reporter who was just doing his job, but the headline that he will leave, though that was followed by him insisting he will still win, that that does stand out, though. Reporter yeah, absolutely. I mean, a lot of what happened last night stood out, particularly, as you said, the president hasnt taken a single question since election day. Now, this was a 25minuteish rant, most of it was that baseless claims of widespread election fraud. I do want to point to that sound that you just played of him talking about how a lot could happen before january 20th. He has no doubt there, again, talking about these baseless claims of fraud. The important part here is that he has an entire team of lawyers who is trying to prove this, but yet has provided absolutely no evidence. We have seen court case after court case get thrown out here. Now, lots of other things he touched on as well. He said that biden should not be picking a cabinet just yet and here is what he said when he was asked if he would attend bidens inauguration. Take a listen. I dont want to say that yet. I mean, i know the answer, i will be honest i know the answer but i just dont want to say it yet. Reporter so clearly there not answering the question, saying he knows the answers but hes not going to say whether or not he will. This is of course a president ial tradition here. Now, the other thing i want to point out that he said is he said hes going to be traveling down to georgia to campaign for those two senators, loeffler and perdue, who are in a runoff. The election there on january 5th. And even though these coronavirus cases are spiking across the country, he indicated that they were looking for a venue where they could hold a very large rally. Bianna . Some things never change. Kristen holmes, thank you so much. Well, my next guest is very familiar with peaceful transitions of power and the inner workings of the house, john podesta served as chief of staff for president clinton, he was also a counselor to president obama. John, thank you for joining us, happy thanksgiving to you and your family. And to you, bianna. So President Trump says that he will leave the white house if electors do choose biden, but hes not letting up on conspiracy theories and he is still predicting his own victory. John, at this point it really is less a matter of whether he thinks he won, but are you worried about the 70 Million People who voted for him hearing that and maybe actually buying it and believing it . Well, sure, weve seen very high numbers of Republican Voters who think that biden won, but biden won because of massive fraud. Theres absolutely no evidence of that, but this is destructive to the democracy and its harmful to what you introduced the piece with, a peaceful transition of power. I think people are ready to get on to a new administration, someone who can bring people together rather than constantly tearing them apart, but hes, you know, kind of lacked maturity and any kind of gracefulness since the election. I dont expect that to change in the next 54 or 55 days. So lets move forward. President elect biden and Vice President elect harris elect are expected to see their first president s daily brief on monday. You are very familiar with these briefings. What will president elect biden be gaining now from this moving forward . Well, he has up to the minute and deep intelligence, the collection of intelligence from all 17 intelligence agencies will be available to him. He can ask questions of the briefer if he wants more information to go back to those agencies and they will provide that to him. And he will ultimately, again, have the ability to begin to shape his National Security and Foreign Policy based on the best analysis and the best intelligence. He made history this week when he named the first woman to head to be the director of national intelligence, avril haines, who is terrific, i worked with her in the obama white house, and, you know, that team wi

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