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CNNW CNN Special Report October 7, 2015

And outside the courtroom for reaction. People said, either hes as guilty and terrible as can be or hes guilty. Theres no in the middle. The o. J. Verdict, shock of the century. Its minutes after midnight june 13th, 1994, Los Angeles Police arrive to a crime scene at bundy drive in upscale brentwood. They find no witnesses, no murder weapon. Just two victims. Slashed, stabbed, everything else. Nicole was nearly decapitated. It was a very bloody scene. Nicole is Nicole Brown Simpson. Lying dead beside her, 25yearold ron goldman. The prime suspect, nicoles exhusba exhusband, football legend o. J. Simps simpson. Simpson promises to surrender and then disappears. The Los Angeles Police Department Department right now is actively searching for mr. Simpson. Gasps from the press room. Only a sign of what is yet to come. Highway patrol . Yeah, i think i just saw o. J. Simpson on the 5 freeway and hes heading north. You have everybody scared. The famous lowspeed chase, covered live for hours, rivets the nation. And ends with simpsons eventual surrender at his home on rockingham avenue. It was just the beginning. This was the perfect soap opera, the o. J. Simpson murder case was the first true reality show for the country. This was the first walltowall televised trial. July 22, 1994, a month after the murders, the Legal Proceedings against o. J. Simpson begins when he enters this defiant plea. Absolutely, 100 , not guilty. And to help him prove that, simpson assembles a legal dream team. Each one of them was famous. Jeffrey toobin covered the trial for the new yorker. There has never been, in american history, more prominent defense lawyers on a single trial than in the o. J. Simpson case. Theres harvard law professor, alan dershowitz. An ideal intermediary between the ivory tower and the gritty world of trial practice. Famed criminal attorney, f. Lee bailey. The person you go to when you are really in a lot of trouble and can afford it. And, of course, Johnnie Cochran, who would take the lead. Flamboyant. Outgoing. Approachable. Fun. And extremely charismatic, while also having considerable mastery of the details of the case. And known for defending celebrities like child actor todd bridges, football legend jim brown and superstar michael jackson. But would the allstar strategy work . The o. J. Dream team was not a dream team. It was a nightmare team. Most of the lawyers didnt get along with each other. There was a lot of competition for the limelight. But despite all that competition, consensus doesnt emerge. The key Defense Strategy racism. This is not just any city where an allegation of a racist cop is being made. This is the lapd. And simpsons attorneys know they can strike a cord. With secret knowledge of scathing recordings about to surface, they seek permission to ask lapd detective mark fuhrman if hes ever used the n word. Ill use the word because im quoting him, all of the niggers put them together into a big group and burn them. But prosecutor chris darden wants no part of it. Its the filthiest, dirtiest, nastiest word in the english language. It will upset the black jurors. It will issue them a test, and the test will be, whos side are you on . The side of the white prosecutors and the white policemen, or the side of the black defendant and his very prominent and capable black lawyer . Cochran immediately fires back. Not every africanamerican feels that way. Its demeaning to our jurors to say that africanamericans cannot hear these offensive words. The battle lines are drawn. Ing and race will have now determine this trials outcome. January 24th, 1995, the trial of Orenthal James simpson gets underday. There was a forest of satellite trucks, satellite dishes. People working in trailers. All built so that this trial could go out to the world. Walking into the courtroom everyday, it was like the red carpet on an arrivals line at the oscars. How are you feeling today, o. J. . Marsha, how are you doing . How are your kids . What are you wearing . It was ridiculous. It was crazy. Outside the courthouse, its a circus. Inside, a real life drama unfolding. With millions of people watching. The simpson case combined everything that obsesses the american public. It had violence, sex, race, sports, and the only eyewitness was a dog. And the prosecution had it all. Opening with a story of love, lust and loss of control. He killed her because he couldnt have her. That trail of blood from bundy through his own ford bronco and into his house in rockingham is devastating proof of his guilt. But Johnnie Cochran opens with a very different story. The evidence will show that this careless, negligent collection, handling, and processing of samples, by basically poorly Trained Personnel from lapd, has contaminated, compromised and corrupted the dna evidence in this case. Coming up, behind the scenes. Its the first time ive ever really seen a heisman trophy. And in court with a juror. How did mark fuhrman play a part in your decision when it came down to the verdict . You tuck here. You tuck there. If youre a toe tucker. Because of toenail fungus, ask your doctor now about prescription kerydin. Used daily, kerydin drops may kill the fungus at the site of infection and get to the root of your toe tucking. Kerydin may cause irritation at the treated site. Most common side effects include skin peeling. Ingrown toenail, redness, itching, and swelling. Tell your doctor if you have any side effect that bothers you or does not go away. Stop toe tucking. And get the drop on toenail fungus. Ask your doctor today about kerydin. Because at t and directv are now one which means you can access your dvr at the dmv. Change channels while he changes pants. You dont have to be a couch potato, you can be a train potato and let them watch all the shows they love, inside the ride that you really kind of hate. Introducing the all in one plan. Only from directv and at t. This is how we knew o. J. Simpson. Football icon. Celebrity pitchman. Nobody does it better than hertz. And movie star. But prosecutors say that dashing public persona hides a much darker truth, that simpson is a violent man. Who beat his wife. And it didnt take long before a Police Detective testifies about an incident in 1989. A woman came running out of the bushes to my left, crossed the driveway. She was a female caucasian, blond hair, wearing a bra only as an upper garment, and she had on dark, lightweight sweatpants and started yelling, hes going to kill me, hes going to kill me. Then, jurors hear it for themselves, another chilling 911 call from simpsons wife in 1993. My husband broke into my house, and hes ranting and raving. Less than a year before her murder. Broke the back door down to get in. Okay, whats your name . Nicole simpson. Okay. Is he the sports caster or whatever . Yeah. What is he doing, is he threatening you . Hes going nuts. I was like, wow, he can be pretty bad. 20 years later, juror number 4, david aldana, remembers that moment vividly. So that 911 tape made an impact . Yeah, it did, because when you hear someone pounding on the door like that and hearing nicole say, i think you know his record by now. Nicoles sister denise tells prosecutors she has seen simpson beat nicole, in person. Hes grabbed nicole, told her to get out of his house. Wanted us all out of his house. Picked her up, threw her against the wall. Picked her up and threw her out of the house. However, defense attorney Robert Shapiro counters with a completely different image of o. J. Simpson. Here he is with the brown family just hours before nicoles murder. We played for the jury the june 12th videotape, where you saw o. J. Simpson at 6 00, 6 30 in the evening of june 12th. He was kissing the brown family, shaking hands with lee brown. He picked his son up. Didnt look bitter and raging. So was simpson a warm family man or a violent attacker who cornered and killed two innocent people . The jurors and simpson take a field trip to his house, and the crime scene. It was very good for the jury, i think, to see the evidence better, the testimony better and how the victims were essentially cornered. What do you remember the most about visiting o. J. s house, actually going to the crime scene . I was like, oh, wow, thats the first time ive ever seen a heisman trophy. We couldnt ask questions. Nothing was told to us. Dont talk amongst yourselves and dont touch anything. And its this home visit that leads to the very heart of the prosecutions case, the physical evidence against o. J. Simpson. Can you please describe the appearance of the gloves . It appeared a dark leather glove, appeared to be somewhat moist or sticky. I didnt touch it, but it appeared that parts were sticking to other parts of the glove. We dont know it just yet, but detective mark furhman was about to take on a starring role in this unfolding drama. And now mark fuhrman came up to you and told you he made some discoveries, correct . Yes. So were clear, it was mark fuhrman who allegedly found this spot on the outside of the bronco, is that correct . Thats correct. And then came this unforgettable witness. I heard a thumping noise. How many thumps did you hear . Three. Simpsons shaggy haas guest, kato kaelin. Did you ever expect what was going to happen when you got up there and took the stand . No not at all. That was my first time in a courtroom in my entire life. And i think i was 35 at the time. Kaelins four days on the stand thrust him into the national spotlight. I even come up with a thing saying never has a man done so little to be recognized by so many. Today he testified, he said that o. J. s maid never really liked him. Sure. She had to work for her room and board. Why was kato kaelin so memorable . Hes an idiot. Really . Hes so full of oh, sorry. Thats pretty harsh. As a matter of fact, when we were doing our deliberations, he was like a nobrainer. The guys an idiot and nothing we says, we cant go with or against it. Hes null and void. I was called so many things. I was called a celebrity, a pariah, a traitor, a dummy, a freeloader. So it seems like you were pretty much misunderstood for a really long time . 100 misunderstood. This was something i took so serious that i was making sure i answered everything correctly. So i was in deep thought going, okay, answer this right, kato and that was it. If you pause, people go, hes making something hes lying, hes doing this. Furthest thing from the truth. Its for me to become even more honest. For me to make sure i answer this thing 100 honest. Which brings us to the night of the murder. Kaelin and simpson make a mcdonalds run. About what time was it when you got home . It was about 9 40. Kaelin goes to his bedroom and prosecutors say simpson disappears. A crucial hour passes before kaelin hears a loud noise outside. [ pounds ] where did the noise seem to be coming from . From the back of the wall. That, prosecutors say, is simpson hitting an exterior wall and dropping a bloody glove. At 10 55, a limo driver waiting to take simpson to the airport spots a black person, six feet tall, 200 pounds. I saw a figure come into the entrance way of the house. Allen parks said he was buzzing the intercom since 10 40 and received no response. Proving, prosecutors say, simpson had not been home. This time, there was an answer, which was mr. Simpson. He told me that he overslept and he just got out of the shower and hed be down in a minute. Both park and kaelin notice a dark duffel bag near the rear of simpsons bentley. He came out and kato offered to get the bag. He said, no, thats okay. Ill get it. Ill get it. What was in the bag . And what did simpson do with it . Detective tom lang has a theory. You want to know what happened to the knife and the clothes, we know that from a witness at the airport. I believe. Saw him getting out of the limousine the night of the murders and had his arm buried in a trash container. Next, with so much evidence, what went wrong . Thats peoples 77. Chris darden blew it. Whatever youre doing, plan well and enjoy life. Or, as we say at unitedhealthcare insurance company, go long. How you plan is up to you. Take healthcare. Make sure youre covered for more than what just medicare pays. Consider an aarp Medicare Supplement Insurance Plan insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. 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Simpson has that are also found in the bundy walk bloodstain are only found in approximately 1 out of 170 million caucasians or African Americans . Yes, approximately. And thats not all. Blood consistent with both victims was found in simpsons bronco, on that glove discovered behind his house, and on these socks in his bedroom. You described that material, that bloodstaining as matching nicole brown, is that right . Thats correct. And then there were the bloody shoe prints in the bronco and nicoles dress. Fbi expert William Bodziak says those prints came from bruno mali designer shoes, in simpsons size, 12. Can you include him as a candidate who could have worn the shoes that created the impressions in this case . Yes, i could include him as a candidate for having possibly worn the shoes. As the trial goes on, attention turns from socks and shoes, to gloves. One found at the murder scene. The other . Behind simpsons house. Together, prosecutors believe they have proof that simpsons caught redhanded. Handing mr. Simpson the glove. Thats peoples 77. What were you thinking when you heard prosecutor Christopher Darden request that simpson try on the gloves . I was sitting in the courtroom, i couldnt find a seat, so i was kind of in the back. And when he did that, f. Lee bailey came up to me and he grabbed me and whispered into my ear, he was kind of laughing, why the hell did you let him do that . I didnt know he was going to do anything. Chris is a good man, a good prosecutor, a bright man. He should have known better. I remember watching the gloves in the courtroom and thinking to myself, hes not going to ask o. J. To put on the glove. Thats too much of a risk. You never ask a question in a courtroom, much less do a demonstration where you dont know what the outcome is. And it was like a slow motion disaster movie for the prosecution. As o. J. Milked the moment for all it was worth and pretended to try on the gloves. After the trial, Christopher Darden would admit to larry king it was a mistake. When it happened in court, did you know you were in trouble . I knew that it hadnt gone as well as i had hoped it should have gone. Did you regard it as earth shattering to the case . No, not necessarily. Not particularly. It wasnt until i went upstairs and left the courtroom that i realized people thought it was a monumental failure, a monumental mistake. Was it chris darden that blew this case . Chris darden blew this case. Marcia clark contributed pretty heavily, too, but chris darden blew it. When o. J. Was able to walk in front of the jury and say, its too small, he didnt have to testify. Because he had testified in front of the jury and he wasnt crossexamined. So for us, it was a winwin. He appears to have pulled the gloves on, counsel. But to juror david aldana, it didnt seem like a big deal. O. J. Simpson was in front of you when he put on the glove. He was maybe about two feet away from me. What do you remember from that moment . You know, a lot of people make a big deal about it, but i was a truck driver. I wear gloves all the time. I know that when my gloves get wet, they shrink up. After 92 exhausting days of testimony, 58 witnesses and 488 exhibits we ask the court to receive all the peoples exhibits and the people rest. Next the lapds laboratory is a cesspool of contamination. The defense unleashes a blistering attack. How about that, mr. Fung . Just like eddie, the first step to reaching your retirement goals is to visualize them. Then, let the principal help you get there. Join us as we celebrate eddies retirement, and start planning your own. When youre not confident your companys data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. Thats where at t can help. At at t we monitor our Network Traffic so we can see things others cant. Mitigating risks across your business. Leaving you free to focus on what matters most. Just like eddie, the first step to reaching your retirement goals is to visualize them. Then, let the principal help you get there. Join us as we celebrate eddies retirement, and start planning your own. We think the evidence will show that he did not, could not and would not have committed these particular crimes. Johnnie cochran on the attack. And on the offensive. The lapds laboratory is a cesspool of contamination. Citing police incompetence. Some had gloves, some didnt have gloves. Picking up the evidence. Even suggesting a conspiracy to frame o. J. Simpson. The fact that blood mysteriously appears on vital pieces of evidence is devastating evidence of something far more sinister. But the fireworks really begin here. Defense lawyer blasts lapd criminologist dennis fung. Confronting him about not wearing gloves while handling evidence. And picking apart inconsistencies in his testimony. So you did begin evidence collection before the coroners left . Yes. So what you said before wasnt true . It was the best of my recollection at the time. What do you remember the most about fung getting torn apart . Oh, man. Does that refresh your recollection . Is that a concern of yours snf sure of that . Barry scheck is one heck of an attorney. You truly believe that evidence was planted . Yes. From this day until the day i die, i think it was planted. Did you find a glove in the bronco, detective furhman . Is. And who do they accuse of plan plan

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