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CNNW CNN Special Report January 25, 2021

You have to be strong. Usa they are the faces of insurrection. I think we should have gone on in and yanked our senators out by the hair of the head and drug em out and said, no more. Extremists. Hang mike pence hang mike pence conspiracy theorists. Freedom and lawmakers. Were in. Usa were in the capitol many are now wanted by the fbi. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol Building. As american patriots, we have to do what we can to take back this country. Were going to walk down, and ill be there with you. What are you going to do . Whatever we have to do what do you think 1776 was . On january 6th, thousands of Trump Supporters came to washington, d. C. From all over the country, believing the president s false claims about election fraud. But some of this crowd would soon become a mob, launching an attack on the u. S. Capitol. Theyre absolutely domestic terrorists, it is very clear that these are groups that engage in violent criminal acts for a political purpose. It is that combination of Violent Crime and political ideology or social ideology or a racial ideology that turns this activity into domestic terrorism. Who planned the assault and how were they able to incite hundreds of people to willfully break the law . No one leader has so far emerged, but Fringe Groups were clearly front and center during the attack. Im here to support trump. Im here to stop the steal. Im here because q sent me. You guys know what that is . And im here to fight for freedom. Q stands for qanon, a rightwing conspiracy whose followers believe, among other things, that politicians and celebrities work with governments around the globe to engage in child sex abuse, and they worship satan. They are fervent supporters of President Trump. Qanon is a little more difficult to understand because its comparatively newer, but the thing which is concerning about qanon is the speed with which radicalization seems to happen and the number of people who are being brought into this. Freedom this qanon supporter with the horns and the painted face was filmed and photographed all over the Capitol Grounds. Usa he clearly made no attempt to blend into the crowd. His name is Jacob Chansley but he is also known by followers as the qanon shaman. He has been seen at other trump rallies in the past. He has been charged with knowingly entering a Restricted Building Without Lawful Authority and with violent entry and Disorderly Conduct on Capitol Grounds. Chansley told the fbi he was in washington as part of a group effort with other, quote, patriots from arizona at the request of President Trump who called on patriots to go to washington, d. C. On january 6th. His Attorney Says the president should pardon him and said chansley did not break into the capitol because the doors were held for him by capitol police. Chansley is a veteran. He served in the navy from 2005 to 2007. Now hes in a detention center. I think theres no question that the qanon adherents will be looked upon by Law Enforcement and by the fbi as a potential threat unto themselves. I think theyve proven that, not just with the crazy things they say on the internet but in the way that adherence to that ideology expressed their identification with it. So whether thats, you know, driving up from North Carolina with your ar15 and shooting up a pizza restaurant in d. C. Or joining with 8,000 of your friends and attacking the capitol, this is clearly a serious threat, a pervasive, extremist ideology that we have to keep an eye on. Chansley isnt the only qanon supporter arrested and charged. Watch as this Police Officer faces a mob heading toward the senate chamber. The officer runs up to the second floor. The man in front of the mob follows him and is lured away from an entrance to the senate chamber. This man is wearing a qanon tee shirt. His name is doug jensen from des moines, iowa. His twitter page shows he has tweeted about qanon and has also retweeted other qanon supporters. Jensen was arrested back in des moines, iowa. The charges he now faces, violent entry, parading in a Capitol Building and blocking Law Enforcement during the riot. Both doug jensen and Jacob Chansley traveled to d. C. From out of state. Whether they came intending to break into the capitol is still unknown. Every time we talk about the attack on the capitol of january 6th, 2021, we need to keep in mind what their purpose was, and their purpose was to delay or prevent the certification of the vote in the president ial election of 2020. This was not random acts of violence. This was not a crowd that just happened to get out of control. This was a planned event. You really dont end up with a crowd of that size, of that direction, of that cohesiveness without a significant degree of preplanning and premeditation. You know, that takes all sorts of forms, but primarily it is communication. Communication to likeminded individuals to recruit people to travel, in many cases very long distances, to draw people to spend their own money, to spend their own time, to travel here to the capitol to engage in that activity. So that doesnt happen spontaneously. I think we know from many of the people who have been arrested and who the fbi is looking for, many of those folks live far away from the d. C. Area. So theres clearly a high degree of planning and premeditation to pull together a crowd like that here. Capitol hill Police Officers were vastly outnumbered by the crowd that day. Officer Michael Fanone was in this group of police at one of the entrances to the capitol. The attackers there eventually pulled him outside where he said he was tasered several times. I remember, like, guys were stripping me of my gear. These were rioters pulling my badge off my chest. They ripped my radio off my vest, started pulling like ammunition magazines from their holder. And then some guy started getting hold of my gun and they were screaming out, you know, kill him with his own gun. At that point, you know, it was just like selfpreservation. You know, how do i survive this situation . I thought about, you know, using deadly force, i thought about shooting people, and then i just came to the conclusion that, you know, if i was to do that, you know, i might get a few but im not going to take everybody and theyll probably take my gun away from me and that would definitely give them the justification they were looking for to kill me, if they didnt already have that made up in their minds. The other option i thought of was, you know, try to appeal to somebodys humanity. I just remember yelling out that i have kids and it seemed to work. This video shows the mob storming into a tunnel of the Capitol Building where they were crushing d. C. Metropolitan officer Daniel Hodges at the door. There was a guy ripping my mask off. He was able to rip away my baton, beat me with it. And, you know, he was practically foaming at the mouth. So just these people were true believers in the worst way. Ahh ow things were looking bad. Obviously i was calling out for all i was worth and an officer behind me was able to give me enough room to pull me out of there, and they brought me to the rear so i was able to extricate myself. Officer fanone says there were some in the mob who tried to help him, but he also says they never should have been there in the first place. I think the kind of conclusion i have come to is like, you know, thank you, but [ bleep ] you for being there. There were Early Warning signs online from extremists. This post talks about operation occupy the capitol and called on others to help attack the buildings on january 6th. It reads, we will storm the government buildings, kill cops. Kill security guards, kill federal employees and agents, and demand a recount. One post read trump or war today, that simple. Some of the attackers on january 6th did seem to be ready for war. This is eric munchel from tennessee. He was photographed with zip ties, plastic restraints, and Law Enforcement said he had an item in a holster on his right hip and a cellphone camera attached to his chest. He was wearing paramilitary gear. Hes been charged with one count of knowingly entering restricted grounds without authority and one count of violent entry and Disorderly Conduct on Capitol Grounds. This is larry brock from texas. He is a retired air force reserve officer and was also seen holding a white flex cuff, which is used by Law Enforcement to detain suspects according to a Court Document supporting his arrest. The fbi found brock after a woman who said she was his exwife recognized his photo from the capitol. Prosecutors say he may have intended to restrain lawmakers who had been evacuated from the senate floor shortly before he and other rioters broke in. He told the new yorker magazine he simply picked up the flex cuff from the ground and he was opposed to vandalizing the capitol. He has also been charged with unknowingly entering restricted grounds without authority and one count of violent entry and Disorderly Conduct on Capitol Grounds. You dont bring ballistic armor and a kevlar helmet to a conversation or even to a first amendmentprotected political protest. You know, you bring that sort of gear with you, you bring handcuffs with you because you expect to have to take people into custody. You bring a kevlar suit and kevlar armor because you are worried about getting shot. I think it is a great indicator of what these folks expected to encounter during the riot. Not every rioter in the capitol belongs to a Fringe Movement and not every rioter came ready for war. The doors to the capitol are open. But there were enough of them to cause concern to Law Enforcement and those who study extremism. I think what we saw at the capitol was really the coming together of several different strands of political affinity. One is sort of the dyedinthewool trump protesters. Another is the recently radicalized qanon conspiracy believers. And then finally we have a third group, which is the subject of my research, which is the more radicalized, longer term activists in the White Power Movement. And that Movement Since the late 1970s and early 1980s has attempted to overthrow the government through violent means, has brought together extremists from neonazi chance, skinhead and militia groups and has really helped to create this sort of celldriven leaderless milieu of activism on the far right. Its really a fascinating aspect i think of President Trumps appeal to such a broad Cross Section of extremists. So in these crowds and in that crowd on january 6th, you have White Supremacists, you have the proud boys, you have antigovernment groups, you have just rightleaning political groups, you have the conspiracy folks from qanon and other groups. On the domestic terrorism side, we are much more used to seeing divisions between those niche groups. It seems theyve all now been united behind a common cause, and that common cause is President Trump and holding him up as their leader, not just politically but spiritually and emotionally. It is a really fascinating, and i think dangerous, combination of different groups. A dangerous combination of different groups and individuals that led to death that day in the capitol. Authorities have arrested more than 40 people on federal charges in connection with the riots. They are asking for more help from the public. Tips, videos, photos, anything that can help them build their case against those who have been charged and those theyre searching for. There are hundreds more that are still on the loose and theres a manhunt underway for some who may have been planning violence in the very near future. We cannot do our job without the help of the american people. If you have information, contact 1800callfbi or submit photos and videos to fbi. Gov uscapitol. ] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. Try boost glucose control. The patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. 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We are protesting for our freedom right now thats the difference. For about three hours on the afternoon of january 6th, attackers who broke into the capitol roamed relatively freely throughout the building. You want to fight . You Better Believe you got one most were able to leave just as freely, to go back to wherever they came from. And the fbi is now searching for a number of them, asking the public for help with information on anyone they know who participated in the breakin. It shouldnt be too hard to identify them. Many of the attackers made no attempt to hide their identities, even though they were caught on video or photographed destroying property and breaking into offices. This video from cbss 60 minutes shows what it was like inside a room in House Speaker Nancy Pelosis office when rioters were trying to break down the doors. She is captured on a recording by one of her staffers. Her staff hid inside that room for more than two hours. Rioters made it into the speakers private office where they damaged property and stole items. This man, Richard Barnett of arkansas, was photographed with his foot up on a staffers desk and was later filmed outside with some of Nancy Pelosis stationary. I didnt steal on it. I plan on it [ bleep ] me and i couldnt see, so i figured, well, im in the wrong business. I got it in the wrong business. I put a quarter on her desk even though who she aint [ bleep ] worth it. Barnett also told a local news station he had a right to be in the speakers office. Im sitting down here at my desk. Im a taxpayer. Im a patriot. We loaned her that desk. She aint appreciating the desk so i thought i could appreciate the damn desk. Im a taxpayer. I threw my feet up on the desk. Barnett has been arrested and charged with knowingly restricting grounds without lawful entry, violent entry and Disorderly Conduct on Capitol Grounds and theft of money, property or records. Stop the steal stop the steal stop the steal this man posted a selfie, smoking a cigarette with the caption hello from the capitol, lol. He also spoke with media after the riots admitting he was in the Capitol Building though he claimed he was there as a journalist. His name is nick oaks and is founder of the hawaii chapter of the socalled proud boys. Proud boys is a farright extremist group. Some of its members espouse White Supremacy ideology. Those are markers. We can think of that group as sort of an armed white power group that has become a de facto Security Force for various trump rallies and an ontheground force of violence in some other places. The socalled proud boys say they reject the label of White Supremacy and reject racism. Other groups at the capitol that day were clearly affiliated with the White Supremacy movement. Experts say signs of white power activism were all over the capitol during the riot. What we have to remember is that white power is designed not as a rigid system of groups that will distinct from one another, but as a social landscape that people regularly move through. Those kinds of connections and that circulation of activists is part of the reason that it is critical not to look at any one of these events as isolated but to think about the White Power Movement as something much bigger and more diffuse and also much more interconnected. So the action at the capitol, which included a variety of these activists, probably also included some people who wouldnt affiliate with any group but do contribute to them and probably also included some people who dont make their affinities known. Come on up. Tell nancy pelosi what you think. This rioter was clear about his affinity with his display of the confederate flag. So although there are clear traces of White Supremacy and extremism in what we saw january 6th, it went far beyond anyt

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