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CNNW CNN Tonight January 30, 2015

Reconciliation. And now an oscar winner is taking on race in america. Kevin costner is here. Our problems didnt start in august and they didnt start in ferguson. We have a whole lot to get to the night, but i want to start in a massachusetts e court courtroom, and miles away from phoenix where the super bowl will take place. Aaron hernandez is behind a table where his murder trial is under way. Susan candiotti has been following the trial, and two vastly different portraits of Aaron Hernandez. What stands out to you some. You rare right about that, don. Aaron hernandez to hear the defense talk about it, he was having a time of his life, and star for the new england patriot s patriots patriots, and big time tight end, and he had just signed a 40 Million Contract extension, and did he like to party . Sure said the defense attorney but this is a good friend of odin lloyd and he could not have done this to him, after all, he said that he was his friend in his opening address 40 times. And the lawyer said that Aaron Hernandez could not have possibly been a coldblooded killer. Why would he kill his friend . Aaron hernandez had the world at his feet. He was planning his future and not a murder. And you got a poe p lar opposite view from the prosecution in the case. The lawyers, the prosecutors in the case saying that Aaron Hernandez is accused of being a coldblooded killer who orchestrated the execution of odin lloyd along with two other codefendants wo are being tried separately in the case. This is how the prosecutor described what happened after lloyd was murdered and the three men he said that came back to the house, and they are seen on videotape. Listen. Ernest wallace and carlos ortiz come down to the basement, and then you will see on the surveillance tape that the defendant is moving around and, and he comes down from the first floor into the basement, and moving around on the first floor, and you will see, ladies and gentlemen, that the defendant is standing outside of the entrance of the basement holding a gun. So in part, don, this could be the tape of the tapes. We will have to see how the jury thinks about or what they think about all of this. And interesting, susan, that odin lloyd, the victim was dating the sister of Aaron Hernandez fiancee, and they were both in the courtroom. Yes, that is right. You have the tale of two sisters here. You have the sister of Aaron Hernandez shayanna jenkins, and then on the ther side the girlfriend of the victim odin lloyd who is sitting next to the victims mother ursula ward shane shaneah jenkins, and it was almost up comfortable to watch the lack of interaction, don. And i want to bring in judge glenda hatchet, and also i want to bring in the judge who presided over other cases. I want you to hear this part of the case where he had been shot. Odin lloyd had been shot six times, and he had been kill ded and when the defendant and carlos ortiz and earnest wallace left are pr that spot, and they left odin lloyd there and left the evidence at the scene, they took the evidence with them and they created evidence of the cooperative effort and tried to and in some cases they were successful in destroying evidence. And judge sideeidlinseidlin, what will they have to do to prove it without a gun . Well, it is a tough case and tough for the state or the prosecutor. Usually the prosecutor they want a case with a smoking gun, and where there are witnesses observing the shooting of the victim. Im surprised and almost shocked that the prosecutor could not cut a deal with the other two defendants that are going to be tried later on and im sure they promise edd with one of the defendants a cruise to the bahamas, and all kidding aside, i am thinking they would offer them a light felony or the misdemeanor, and the prosecutor would have loved to have one of the defendants to say, yes, hernandez was there, and he intended to kill the victim. Even if he was not the shooter. Judge hatchet, it does make it tougher, because there is no gun. It is going to make it really tough. They have to rely heavily, don on that videotape. Of course the defense says it is not the gun, but it is a cell phone, but i agree with the judge. This is going to be an uphill battle because it is really a circumstantial case. It is gogoing to be hard, because at the end of the day, they have to prove, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. All the defense has to the is to keep poking holes and creating doubt. And susan, as everyone watched today, everybody could not help but notice and you sat in the courtroom behind the mo mother, and you could not help but notice that the mother was cry manage the open ging statements, right . E yes, and when they showed the photographf her dead son, you can imagine and when the description came as he was shot execution style, six times, and then apparently in the front as he lay on his back, she did start to cry, and she did leave the room but she cried quietly and left the room and yet, it was clear that you could watch some of the jurors, and they leaned forward and they watched her walk out, and then come back into the courtroom again. So it did, and the jurors did have a reaction then right . They did. At least they were observant, lets say. They didnt show any emotion ooet, but they were paying attention. And judge hatchett this jury is made up of 12 women and six men, and when they see odin lloyd for example, his mother ursula as susan said walks out, how does that affect the jury . It is going to affect the jury and not just along the lines of the sexb and just affecting the women, but people are human beings, and that is my experience is that people are touched, and you cant expect them not to have some kind of reaction even if it was not visible in the court today. And some of the video of never before seen that was taken by hernandez extensive Home Security Surveillance System moment s moments after the murder, and they say that he was holding the murder weapon that was never found, and the defense saying it was an iphone and it is not looking particularly like an iphone, and why would that video exist though if he were a killer . The video, the police think that the prosecutors theory is that it is a glock. The glock is a gun of choice of the many of the police in america. And it is a gun that i used to wear on my ankle when i was in the courtroom and i thought that there was potential danger. It is hard to make out on the video what it is if it is a phone or weapon and some of the other evidence is hard against the defendant. The fact that the footprints are at the scene where the killing took place, and also, there is other physical evidence but be that as it may, the jury normally wants someone to say, i saw it take place. And they dont have that now in the prosecutor and they dont have that direct correlation be between the shooter and the victim. And also, i would say, too, to you, don, if i were the defense counsel in this case if i were planning a murder i surely would not come home knowing that i have a defense video system, so you will hear that a lot in the trial of the practicality of this and again, pushing the theory, that he was his friend, and we heard it over and over again in the Opening Statement s statements and the argument to the jury, and if you are going to be planning a murder why would you be so sloppy, although we have seen people be sloppy a lot. Na has to be the last word of it and speaking of the jurors i wonder if the judge and the others wonder if it adds to the pressure as well. Susan is going to be sticking around because we have a lot more to come on the Aaron Hernandez murder trial. When we come back i want to get the legal panel to weigh in on this, and why does the defense claim that the police targeted in on Aaron Hernandez. And why is there attention on the flashest super bowl commercial. 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Mark, i have said your names hundreds of times, but tonight, it did not work out as i wanted it to. That is okay. And susan, tell me about hernandez demeanor in court today, suesan. Well, he didnt change his expression much, and he was attentive to what was going on but interestingly i thought that when his own defense attorney was making his Opening Statement, i was watching him quite a bit, and oddly, he was rocking in the chair back and forth and back and forth and he did that for an extended period of time. I id like to add this don, one of the guests was wondering, gee, wouldnt it be important p the prosecution would be able to you know flip one of the other codefendants in the case who have e pleaded not guilty but long before the gag order was put in place, i was speaking with the lawyer for one of them carlos ortiz, and he said that he had not been approached by the prosecution, and they dont seem to want to flip them. And mark geragos, i want you to listen to defense attorney michael fee. We are here because the police and the prosecutors targeted aaron are from the very beginning. As soon as they found out that Aaron Hernandez, the celebrity Football Player the new england patriot, was a friend of odin lloyds, aaron never had a chance. It was over. So mark they are claiming that hernandez had been targeted, because he was a celebrity and a patriots player and you have defended some high profile celebrities, and how does that change things . Well, when you have a celebrity or someone who is famous famous, they do get a presumption of innocence once they have been charged, but they also come under a great deal of scrutiny during the investigation, and people want to attach their case to a celebrity, because obviously, it raises the profile of the investigation. But once the jury is in there,r then you do get the presumption of the innocence when you are famous and not so much when you are infamous, and he is clearly famous, and the makeup of the jury being predominantly e female is going to be extremely helpful to him, and all case ss if not most cases are decided in the jury selection, and this is all of the earmarks of the pro defense jury from what i have seen so far. And harkening back to what susan said there was the ray lewis and another famous Football Player who was on trial for murder, a a murder, and they ended up flipping him in the trial, but in that case, he was on trial with the other two codefendants who were ultimately acquitted, but many this casein this case the great thing for the defense, they can sit there because they are not on trial with him, and they can point to the other two and say, those are the guys that did it and he had no motive. And mark just because it is a jury made up of women and they are not that sensitive and he cant bat his eyes to the women, and the women say, okay, you are not guilty. Well right. I ag i agree with you, that is never going to happen, and it is not going to be a malefemale thing, but what you do have is that you are going to be having females, i think that are going to take a look at the guy who is famous and somebody who by all accounts who is very presentable, and he has got the resources here to combat a prosecution which is expended an incredible amount of resources to prosecute him. All of those things come into play play, and they are helpful. And michael, hernandez was cut from the patriots less than two hours after he was arrested and bob kraft and the head coach Bill Belichick are on the prosecutions witness list. How could they be used in the case . El well, don, we will see them used, if they are used at all to provide some evidence following the murder of odin lloyd. There were reports that there were conversations between hernandez and kraft and belichick. Those are not that instrumental. To me what would be more significant is if Aaron Hernandez makes the use of drug cans or the concussions part of the defense. As a way of saying that he didnt have the mental wherewithal to plan a murder. It is possible in that context both belichick and kraft could be called to testify, and it would be important to hear what they have to say about his health as a player and did he suffer psychological injury, and today, we heard michael fee talk about odin lloyd and Aaron Hernandez smoking marijuana all of the time. A that may play a factor in the case. Do you believe that he will be convicted . I believe he going to be convicted, but of seconddegree murder and not first degree. I dont believe they will get him on the case that it is premeditated premeditated. Mark geragos . I dont believe it is going to be a firstdegree murder case and right now, the prosecution has the uphill battle. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, michael, mark Susan Candiotti. And report some breaking news for you. An attorney for suge knight is reporting to cnn that the rap mogul was involved in a fatal hitandrun incident that took place on a movie set that left one man dead. Since we have you here mark your reakction to this, and suge knight involved in the shooting of one of the clients, chris brown, and you represented chris brown, and what do you make of what is happening with this alleged hitandrun . Well, i will tell you something, he has got enormous problems because he has been to state prob state prison before and if they say it is intentional, it is not going to surprise me if the prosecutors here in l. A. Charge it as intentional murder case. If that is the case, suge has enormous exposure. Okay. Thank you, mark, for giving us the feedback on that. 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I am here so i wont be fined. Hey, im here so i wont be fined. I am just here so i wont be fined. Reporter heres wednesday. You know why im here. You know why im here. They know why im here. You know why im here. You know why im here. Reporter but finally today, lynch let loose and he was not happy. I dont know what story, you rare trying to get out of me. I dont know what imagine, you are trying to portray of me and it dont matter what you say to me, and i come to yall event and you shove cameras and microphones down my throat, but in my home in my environment, i dont see yall, but yall are mad at me. Reporter strong words, but lynchs battle with the nfls media requirements may not be relatable to most americans. Nfl tom bradys issues on the other hand certainly are, because it started with a cold that started with with the kids and spread to him and his super model wife gisele and the issue may be that he cannot call out the calls the plays the team. And it ran lu the house, and im glad it happened earlierr in the week and im feeling better. I ran around yesterday and i expect to be 100 sunday. I am ready to go. Reporter meanwhile, Richard Sherman is facing his own parenting issue. His girlfriend is pregnant with his child, a boy. Would he choose the soupuper bowl or his sons birth . Well shgs, he is going to be a disciplined young man and wait for after the game. We have thought about it, and we have things in play if that happens, and we will cross that bridge if it gets there. Reporter and don, i am relieved to hear that gisele gets the sniffles like the rest of us, and it is nice for us mere mortals, and that Richard Sherman is making deals with the unborn for him to do a solid and wait a week. But sherman is really a critic of the commissioner Roger Goodell, and he says why should Marshawn Lynch

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