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CNNW CNN Tonight April 29, 2015

Guardsmen, 1,000 police trying to keep the lid on this city a city that is holding its breath right now. The people who live and work in baltimore, the people who are raising their families here none of them wants to see a repeat of last nights violence a repeat of this weekends destruction. So Anderson Cooper is here with me. Hes going to join us. Cnns krischris cuomo is out among the crowds and well check in with him in a little bit. But anderson 10 00 hour, the question you have been asking its 10 00 now, what happens if people dont go home . Thats the question facing officials right now. I think its really going to depend a lot on obviously, the Police Response and confronting each of these group of protesters and also the volunteers. We have seen a real Important Role that volunteers and pastors have been playing tonight in standing between the police and standing between crowds. And i think how the Police Respond to those volunteers how they incorporate or use those volunteers do they allow the volunteers to stay out in order to try to encourage the crowds to go . Again, its a very difficult situation. And im not sure how its going to be handled. And weve seen people, as you said we have seen members of the clergy we have seen community leaders. We have seen even members of rival gangs getting together trying to help people corral people and say, listen we dont want this violence. I want to get to chris. Chris is out right in the middle of it. Chris, we heard from a Police Official that they from helicopters, they have been announcing to people that the curfew is in effect. They need to get into their homes. Theyve been announcing it on the street. Youre at the scene right now. What are you seeing . Reporter elijah coupleummings is on our camera right now. The congressman is talking about the situation, asking people to go home. Asking people just to leave and leave without any kind of problems with the police. Congressman, whats your reaction when you look around here and you see this Police Presence you see debris on the ground and the protesters whats going on your mind . I just feel pain. I live in this neighborhood. Ive lived in this neighborhood for 33 years. And ive seen a lot of these young people grow up. A lot of them are in real pain. They feel as if they dont have the kind of education that they need to function properly in life. And your thoughts on freddie gray . Freddie gray its clear to me we the police have to be much more transparent. Weve got a situation where we have a young man, from this neighborhood generally, who is supposedly arrested without force or incident who is now, he suffered a broken neck a crushed larynx and a splintered spine and spinal cord, and then he died. And it just goes against common sense for a lot of people. Thats hard. We did have a conversation the western delegation met over the phone with loretta lynch, our attorney general today about 5 30 and she assured us its a top priority. But weve got to look at the Police Department very carefully from top to bottom and then weve got to listen to our children. Because this is let me tell you, this is without a doubt, the civil rights force for this generation. This and voting rights. And America Needs to wake up bigtime. All right, folks, weve got to get out of here you just heard the representative hes going to talk to the police and see how theyre going to deal with the Actual Administration of the curfew and well stick near the congressman. Frankly, hes out here alone, don. Well make sure hes okay as everything starts to move through here. And the big concern will be about how the curfew is enforced on. Well be keeping our camera up and youll see it the same way we do. Before we let you go weve got 20 30 40 people out here and where you are, chris, how many people are you seeing out . It is curfew time. Reporter there are hundreds of people out here. Probably a couple hundred media and several hundred more actual people spreading out throughout the intersection and down the side streets. There are just as Many Police Officers maybe six, seven deep. Jay, if you want to swing around real quick and just give a look. That goes back much deeper than it seems right now. Theres several different stereotypetypes of supply vehicles that are there there. This goes back six, seven layers but once they start to enforce the curfew, the people that think theyre helping are going to be one of the first ones that get swept up in their action. The question then will become what will they do with what could be well over a thousand people here in front of them and there are, we hear an attendant forces up the side streets off this main intersection. So its all going to be about how its enforced. Chris, well get back to you, standby. I want to get to cnns Jason Carroll, also out in the crowd. Jason, what are you seeing . Well i can tell you, as we look here at the number of officers that have started to line up just within the past ten minutes or so we had one line of officers out here now they are three deep. So they have extended the ranks out here coming you know, in the minutes coming up to 10 00. But still, so far, things tense here at this intersection of pennsylvania and north, but unchanged in terms of the Law Enforcement stance in terms of how theyre dealing with those who are out here. I know that you heard chris cuomo talk about this a little earlier. Those who are engaging the community are the Community Members themselves. Theyve been out here on loud speakers, in the hour or two leading up to the curfew encouraging people to leave, don. At one point, though the Police Helicopter above did make the announcement to clear the streets. That was heard by not the some 200 people who are still feeding into some of the side streets leading into this intersection here. So at this point, its somewhat of a standoff in terms of those who are still out here not wanting to go home at least not yet, don . All right, jason. Stand by. Again, i want to tell our viewers, that it is seven minutes after 10 00, 10 00 p. M. Eastern time here on the east coast, in the city of baltimore. A citywide curfew went into effect just some seven minutes ago. There are still hundreds if not thousands of people still out on the street. There appear to be at this moment defying that curfew. And as our Jason Carroll has been reporting, our chris cuomo have been reporting, and as you see on the street there, police have drawn line in the middle of the street. Theyre urging the demonstrators to go home. The demonstrators appear to not wanting to not wanting to go home. So the question is whats going to happen now. Is there enough manpower to get people off the streets. If the protests are still peaceful do they allow people to stay or do they arrest them . Theyve got plenty of manpower but is it enough . 2,000 National Guardsmen added to police. A thousand police trying to keep a lid on all of this. As we said at the beginning of this show this city is now really holding its breath trying to and police are trying to keep a lid on this city. Cnns ryan young also out in the crowd. They are seeing folks defying this order. What are you seeing. So far, you can see Elijah Cummings addressing the crowd, trying to tell people to go home. Weve seen the crowd change over the last hour and a half. Weve seen different people arrive here. Weve been here since about 10 00 this morning, and havent seen the number of people seen surging towards the front. Theyre going to see whats going to exactly happens when this goes on. People are waiting patiently to see if the cops are going to push or stand still in the middle of the street. Everyones just sort of waiting around to see what happens. So far, no violence right, ryan . Everyone still pretty peaceful . No violence whatsoever. Were going to walk a little bit. You can see the surge of people coming up the street. Everyones waiting for this 10 00 hour. Theyve all been talking about marching forward to where the cops are. One lady just walked over and asked us, what are you guys waiting for . When they start tear gassing people . Other people say, we dont want that to happen. What we would like you to do is go home peacefully. All the music being played throughout the day, that is over. And what the crowd is now doing, standing here asking the media to step back. You can hear the crowd is angry. They do not want to go home. And there are several people who are here who want to see if they can challenge the police and move them off this street. Ryan i want you to stand back. Im going to keep the correspondents up and chris up and all of the guys up. Jason carroll as well with and ryan. Ryan what do you mean they dont want to go home . Explain that to us. Talk to me about that. Well weve talked to a few people especially theres a lot of young people who werent here earlier, who have now shown up who are ready to cover their faces, just in case there is tear gas, who are standing all around the edges, and theyre yelling towards the officers. For the most part the officers have not responded to anyone who is yelling at them. It has all remained peaceful. In fact people are screaming peace, peace, peace. But once again, the crowd has changed from what we have seen here earlier. Guys stick with me. I want to keep your cameras up. Well bring you into the conversation. I want to bring into the conversation now, the reverend jamal bryant a Senior Pastor of empowerment temple ame church. He delivered freddie grays eulogy and held a town hall here tonight. Also the reverend ron owens of Holy Redeemer Institutional Church of god and christ he joins me now. And as we are watching this, reverend, you met with the doj, did you have a meeting with the doj . We did have a meeting today with the doj. We thought they were candid honest and forthright. Im sorry, say again . We did have a meeting, a select group of seven to nine leaders, variations across the city did meet with the doj and the director of the civil rights division. Is there any concern, because as were watching this, were speaking to our correspondents who are out there, and the people dont seem to be going home. Is that a concern for you . I think its beginning to be a concern. I think anytime you see lawlessness and direct intentions to disobey the officers, absolutely. And thats not what weve worked we led the most successful march ever yesterday, when with Elijah Cummings myself, 200 pastors across the city linked arm in arm, walked, engaged the police and helped them move two brigades up and put out fires. We didnt do what we did for what were seeing tonight. And congressman Elijah Cummings is out there tonight, in the crowd, trying to get people to obey police and to go home. Reverend bryant my question is for you. You know you were at the scene of the town hall that you held. There was a large crowd there just moments ago. Did you hope that holding a town hall would provide an outlet for the anger that we saw last night . I thought that the people of baltimore deserved a hearing, and as a consequence for an hour or a little more we just set up mics so that people could express their agony and their frustration. Martin luther king jr. Said it the best that riots are the language of the unheard. And people need to be heard about what it is that they feel because they did an outlet in order for them to maintain some health. Whats your concern right now, as we are, you know, at 10 00, 10 13, and the streets are not clear . Well i think its a very small group compared from last night or any of the other nights in the last nine days that weve been marching. I think its regrettable that they are intentionally leaving themselves open for vul vulnerability vulnerability. Its my earnest prayer that theyll begin to move and go home. We dont want any incidents. Were calling for peace and thats what this movement has been about for the last nine days is and we hope to continue in that same legacy. We were out today, at up with of the parks in the area druid hill park, and there were crips, there were bloods there, there were members of the black Guerilla Army there. They didnt quite say that they signed a pact but they did say that they came to some sort of truce, and thats the first time that they have done that ever that they can remember. How big of a deal is that . It was a humongous deal. They made up in their mind they were going to move block by block, to move forward and lend some leadership. So i was extremely proud to see these young men step up and turn negative energy into positive leadership. And i think thats whats needed around the country because theres been a false premise about young plaque people who are, in fact actively engaged or upset. They are not thugs, they are not hoodlums theyre not criminals, they are american citizens who have a right to express what it is they feel even when it upsets people who cant handle the truth. Chris cuomo, on the ground now at the site of one of the protests. Chris, can you see any sign of people going home or are they holding firm . No theyre not. Everybody wants to see whats going to happen. One of the things that just changed, it was my understanding that the curfew was for locals, not annoyedthe media, but the helicopters across our head is saying the media must move also or you will be arrested. So that is a new dynamic here which obviously is going to make it very difficult for us to exercise the right of the publicity of this situation and find out whats going on and report on it. But what were trying to do is give the officers as much space as possible. They have started throwing bottles randomly towards the cops. It has not changed their disposition, but the helicopters above do seem to be setting the stage for action by the police. Theres no question that see them taking steps . Thats called the step and drag. They take a step and drag to stay in one line. Theyre banging on their shields to let you know theyre coming. Here come some objects, coming now toward them bottles, a couple of rocks. I got my hand on the im coming back so im not in front of the officers. People are moving back and downside streets. The officers are holding a line. Back up back up you can see the locals are not happy. Theyre throwing things at police theyre telling them not to. Please please can yall, can yall go home just Water Bottles at this point, but still, its a provocation. Can yall back up the media, theyre saying to clear back behind the barrier. The barrier would be the police. That was a glass bottle. Jay, ill pull you back this way as they come. Chris, what are they saying are they saying anything police, on the bull horns or on speakers . Reporter theyre well people are yelling, just their voices saying get back out of the way, you know whats going to happen and the helicopter above is saying move out of the way, this pertains to all media as well clear out of the area. So were moving back and trying to give them distance while at the same time living up to the responsibilities to keep eyes on the situation. Chris, were looking at people who are laying in the middle of the street. Is that anywhere near you . Reporter i do not see that. I do not see people there are a lot of people here but i dont. You got ryan on the other side from me and jason behind him and miguel farther up the street. So maybe one of them is closer to it. Were trying to stay closer to the police so we can see exactly what they do. So reverend stand by chris. Reverend owens, how can this be diffuse diffused . One of the things we asked the doj to provide us a system in place where they can monitor the conduct of the police as it relates to peoples amendments right to protest. I think this is what youre seeing a very small element, and i think this element is divided. There are those, as i see it who are attempting to move the crowd beyond the control of the police and say, its over go home. You have those who are laying down in the street in a sense of civil disobedience determined not to leave. And then i think that you have those out there who are determined to disrupt the peaceful march. So i think the dynamic is is that there are elements. I am shocked and surprised that the police would tell the press that they would have to go. That severely concerns me because that dictates that the actions of the cops wont be recorded. Stand by. So media is allowed to be there. Police have said that the media is allowed to be there, while the curfew is in effect. Again, were watching these pictures come in of police that appear to be moving in. They are moving in and some of the protesters are defying that by throwing bottles and they continue to be on the street. My colleagues ryan young, Jason Carroll, chris quo most out in the crowds now. I want to go to jason. I dont know if jason is anywhere near this. Jason, if you can hear me what are you seeing at your location . Reporter don, i can hear you. Im standing right here at the front line here where you can see a number of the Police Officers that are still here still in their stance. Weve seen a number of people small number throwing bottles, Water Bottles, glass bottles at police. Whats been happening is, every few moments or so the number of Police Officers here in this one single formation start moving a few feet. They make an announcement clear the area then they start moving a few more feet. Continuously asking those who are here to move back and to clear the area. Whats been interesting, don, i know you saw this in some of the video earlier, not seeing it at this point, but there were members of the Community Standing out there between the small fraction of people who are out here and this front line even as incoming glass bottles and Water Bottles were being thrown. Still standing there, still telling those few who are left to leave. Standing once again, between those stragglers who are out here and this line of officers who are still out here as well. Im told from one Law Enforcement official that was out here is that theyre going to continue doing this. Theyre going to continue moving step by step, until eventu

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