Donald trump and Hillary Clinton making news on the Campaign Trail Tonight. This is cnn tonight, im don lemon. Tonight three talk show hosts, john fred riericks, a trump supporter and mr. Madison, are you all right . Hello to all of you. Joe first to you. Listen to Hillary Clinton at a fundraiser here in new york tonight. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump Supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. Right . The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. But the other basket of people who feel the economy has let them down, Nobody Caress about them. Do you think that she should have said that, joe, basket of deplorables, racists, sexists i think in the last segment someone should she shouldnt have said half or i dont know if she should have said one third or you could put ten people. There have been some deplorable people that even donald trump has had to denounce. We had to force him to denounce david duke and others. But lets understand one thing, she obviously not speaking literally, it was figuratively. And, secondly, this is what you do and say at fundraisers. You are with its almost like being a cheerleader. Its like being with your crowd. And you think this is something, you wait until you get to a republican fundraiser. Youll have the same thing said about liberals, about progressives. This is what people do at fundraisers. But, chris, i have to ask you, though, you remember when donald trump says, you know, said that he was he could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and he got a lot of flak for that. Do you think its similar . Actually, what this reminds me of, this reminds me of mitt romneys 47 comment caught at a fundraiser and it was devastating. I didnt hear this until i was on my way in to do your show often. I dont know that ive ever heard a candidate define voters with such pejoratives. To call supports are names . That could be terminal. Ive heard donald trump and i can give you the clip if you want, ill be glad to send it to you saying i love stupid people. And he was talking about his supporters. He said i love the uneducated. Well, uneducated, stupid. I love the uneducated people. Who calls his supporters uneducated . Who does that . We dont want uneducated people making uneducated decisions like voting for donald trump. So be very careful when you bring that up because that clip is out there and if Hillary Clintons people are smart, theyll play that every day during the campaign. What he did not say is i love Hillary Clintons stupid people, i love the stupid people that support Hillary Clinton. Far different than saying the people that support my opponent are racist and xenophobic and blah, blah, blah. You dont call your own supporters uneducated. John you, youre sitting there awfully quiet. Is this like when president obama talked about bitter people clinging to their weapons . That hurt him. Will this hurt her . The Clinton Campaign is in freefall, dead panic in brooklyn. They dont know what to do. Theyre delusional. They dont have any idea what emails are going to get out there. Right now trump is surging all over the country. I was the first one in america to predict he was going to be the republican nominee and im predicting hes going to win on november 8th. Everybodys been the first by the way. Im not saying youre revising history but a lot of people say that. If you saw mrs. Clinton tonight, that was a desperate attempt to frame trumps backers, calling them stupid or whatever shes trying to do. At the end of the day they have no plan her entire campaign right now is based on Bashing Trump and then continuing to bash trump. They have no plan. Theyre in a freefall. Trump is going to win, don. I mean, i dont know what these people are going to do because theyre not theyre not seeing reality right now. I want to play this in. To joe madisons point, you said if you go to a conservative or a republican rally, youll see similar things. Donald trump on the Campaign Trail Tonight down in pensacola, florida, he said this about Hillary Clinton. Because she is being so protected, she could walk into this arena right now and shoot somebody with 20,000 people watching right smack in the middle of the heart and she wouldnt be prosecuted, okay . Thats whats happened. That is whats happened to our country. I never thought id see the day when this is happening to our country. So, chris, is that appropriate . No. Would i tell him to say it . No. I long gave up The Business Of Spinning for donald trump. I dont do it. An overwhelming majority of the country believe mrs. Clinton should have been punished by the fbi. A majority of people polled Say Something should have gone down with the fbi and mrs. Clintons emails. It didnt. Most of this country feels she getting away with something criminal. I heard what you said, she hasnt been charged with anything criminal, fine. But most people believe shes done something criminal and that sentiment exists. I dont disagree with you but to come on and definitively say that Hillary Clinton has committed a crime is just factually inaccurate and i was trying to get that across to the guest who is an attorney. I was shocked that he doesnt understand that. Joe, you got a good chuckle out of that. I got a good chuckle out of it because as i said, youre going to hear it on both sides. Look, again, ive played on my show donald trump saying i could stand in the middle of fifth street fifth avenue. Fifth avenue, excuse me and shoot somebody and let me play that. Go ahead, please. They say i have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that . Where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters, okay . It like incredible. Go ahead, joe. I mean, whoever would have heard in all my life ive never heard any president ial candidate, republican or democrat, Say Something like that. I mean, so you can see how let me say this quickly and i think we all can agree with this. I will be so glad when we Start Talking about issues that impact my child, my grandchild, my paycheck, you know, education. This back and forth attack, whats going on right now, i dont know if this is predebate nonsense, but at some point in time we have got to get into the substance of Public Policy. And thats what im waiting for because what i think were all tired of is this attack counterattack. Let talk about substantive Public Policy issues, education, the economy and who will lead the country in the next four years. Thats what i think the American People really want. And substantive issues like taxes. Well discuss that. Absolutely. Well discuss that when we come right back. Dont go anywhere. Both on the track and thousands of miles away. 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I want to talk about something thats becoming increasingly hard to ignore, Donald Trumps refusal to release his tax returns. His running mate, mike pence, released ten years of tax returns tonight. Why wont donald trump release his taxes . What is the justification . I dont know. I dont know. And i dont really spin for donald trump. If were going to talk about secrecy and what we cant see, theres a laundry list of it over there on mrs. Clintons side, too. Listen wees, we will get to but can we stick to the point instead of deferring to the other side. Everybody does that. Why wont he release his tax returns . That is something that Hillary Clinton has done. I dont know. But, frankly, his taxes are the least of my concerns. Were talking about were talking about a history shrouded in secrecy around mrs. Clinton that the public it doesnt matter to you how much taxes hes paid, how much Charitable Giving hes done, especially since the cornerstone of his campaign, one of them beside immigration and building a wall, has been what a great businessman he is, how he will rescue the economy and save the American People and get jobs because he can create them because hes such a great businessman . That doesnt make you curious about how his companies operate, how much money he makes, how much taxes hes paid, how much Charitable Giving hes done . Youre not curious about that . You want me to evaluate his professional resume. Again, im happy to do it. I suppose it would be nice to see, sure. These two people trying to evaluate their professional resumes, it would be exhaustive and we can make the case for both of them quite frankly, we can make the case that both of them are shrouded in secrecy and unanswered questions. I cant focus on him when her resume of failure is so vast. I mean, it very difficus very me to pile on him i think it would be fair if we were discussing their resumes but were talking about releasing their tax returns. One candidate has done it on the president ial side. Another one has not. Both Vice President ial candidates have done it. Donald trump is the only one who hasnt. But go ahead, joe. Failures. This is a man that has had so many bankruptcies. But heres the point. I had a friend today say to me that its more than now a double standard. Its quadruple standard. This is the same candidate, donald trump, who asked for the president s College Transcripts, asked a 50yearold man for College Transcripts. Then he wanted to see a Birth Certificate. He wanted to see legitimacy. What tax returns do, it tells you a lot who you attributed to. You know what really bothers me is people who call up and say or people who sit out there and say, well, you know, i wouldnt understand them, even if he gave out his tax returns. Let me tell you, we probably all work on Talk Radio Stations and networks. We can find tax experts who can explain it. There are people right here on cnn who can come on and explain what hes done. The reason he doesnt do it is because he is hiding something. Thats exactly the argument that would have been used against president obama and anybody else and thats why the governor of indiana released his taxes. Something is strange when your running mate releases taxes and the man at the top of the ticket doesnt . John hasnt gotten in. John. Heres what were told about mrs. Clintons Charitable Foundation and the giving to that foundation. Were told those things dont matter, there was no quid pro quo. Millions and millions to the clinton found as, no quid pro quo. Thats what were told. If were just going to apply this sent aly, we can do this all day on both of them. Did they release the record, though . Yes, they did. And they got an a rating. Tell the whole story. Tell the whole story. They got an a rating. I will tell the whole story. I think its fair to evaluate all of them if you have the receipts, as they say. If youre going to evaluate the clintons and they have released all the information, it fair to evaluate it. You cant evaluate any of what trump says about his taxes because he hasnt released them. Go ahead, john. The clintons didnt released anything. It got released by judges or by leaks. Its not like they were forthcoming and released anything. But let me get to your question, which is Donald Trumps tax returns. He absolutely should not released his returns under any circumstances, audit or not. Releasing tax returns is simply a creation of the media that decided at some time people should release their taxes. If you want to know what donald trump has done, go to manhattan, look up, see the skyline, thats what hes done. Its all there. Now, what the media wants to do is have them release his taxes so for the next six weeks we can scrutinize every donation and every line item and every deduction whats wrong with that . Nothing. Whats wrong with that . Joe consideration you answer my question . We need to talk about the issues . Whats wrong with scrutinizing the tax returns . It a waste, don, of everybodys time with what is going on right now. We just had a segment let me ask you this. Youve been talking about you and chris have been talking about the clinton foundation. You want to scrutinize everything with the clinton foundation, which i think is fair. If youre running for president , everything is fair game. Why the double standard your president . You dont want to scrutinize everything from Donald Trumps foundation. Eye been to rwanda to a very Successful Program to a veof th clinton foundation. Whats wrong with knowing about donald trump . Nothing. Heres why. There was Hillary Clinton had a Press Conference the first one shes had in 276 days the other day. She did not get asked one question about the emails, the foundation, anything. The line of questioning went something they spent 20 minutes the night before answering that on National Television and and she spent 18 hours in front of Congress Answering these questions. She was in a press gaggle, they didnt ask her a simple question. If trump jesus doesnt have anything to do with this at all. Jesus is not running for president. I wish he were, frankly. The liberal leftwing media going to spend the next six weeks going over every single thing, interpreting it youre slightly right and i wish you guys would go back four years, go back eight years and look ought all the things you asked obama to release. You didnt object when they were calling for him to release his tax returns and you certainly werent objecting with all this birther crap that was going on. First of all Birth Certificate okay, all three of you are talking and i cant anyways. Thank you, gentlemen. I just want to be clear, i dont delve into the birther garbage but we still dont see a College Transcript from the great constitutional professor. George bush didnt release his College Transcripts as well. Oh, please. No, heres what im saying. Im saying to you there is no precedent for College Transcripts. There is a precedent for people or people who are running for president releasing their tax returns. Im just saying whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Have a great weekend. An fbi investigation, thats unprecedented. This Weekend Cnn Film Presents 9 11, 15 years later. An updated look at the iconic film with the only known film inside the twin towers. Coming up, donald trump says his voters are the Silent Majority but will they show up on election day . Donald trumps Silent Majority pac and the son of cnn founder ted turner. How are you doing . You are a donald trump supporter. You are running the Silent Majority pac. Why did you choose that name . What does it mean to get to the original part of the question, people are afraid to put a trump sign in their yard. People are afraid to wear a trump shirt. They think somebody is going to call them a racist, call them a bigot. All the stuff that the left has trumped up about trump and it really not fair. People cant speak their mind unless theyre liberal in this country. But in all fairness, teddy, there are people on the right as well who say those things about donald trump. Its not just people on the left. You think its fair to say that . Well, i think you know, when i ran for congress and kind of learned the ropes down here a couple years a