Spouses indiscretions or being brought into a Campaign Like this . No. Plus, Surprising New questions about Donald TrumpsCharitable Foundation tonight. We have the latest on that story and a bombshell from howard stern. Theres whole lot to get to this hour, so it is breaking now. A lot of it. Well get to our cnn politics editors. Mark preston, david k. Johnson, and jeff zeleny. Jeff, lets start with you. Theres breaking news that starts with donald trump. And his support of the iraq war. On his radio show today, howard stern is saying donald trump did support the iraq war. Listen to this. It always comes up because you know trump was on our show years ago and said yeah, he you know, he was looking forward to the iraq war, he was saying he wasnt for it, so they were forced to mention my name. Yeah. Its cool. Good promotion. So i want you to listen to the original interview in 2002 from howard stern. Are you for invading iraq . Yeah, i guess so. You know, i wish it was i wish the first time it was done correctly. So, jeff, is this damning . Trump has been claiming he was never for the war in iraq. Its hard to know if anything is damning or not with the truth scale that donald trump operates under here. It is clear, the record is clear that at the time, of the invasion, that he supported it. The interview with howard stern is clear. Donald trump simply denied that reality on the debate stage on monday night, said it wasnt true, it wasnt true. Now we have howard stern who did the interview with donald trump, has been very friendly to him over the years is saying, no, he was for the iraq war. Is that going to change anything in the mind of Donald Trumps supporters . Probably not. But in the moment of that debate on monday night when donald trump insisted and repeated that he was opposed to it and he tried to almost call you know a friend, used a life line to call sean hannity of fox news. He knows i was against the war. It just simply isnt true. So howard stern saying he was for the war certainly adds more truth but im not sure it changes the equation because the facts arent changing in this. He was for the invasion. He said he was. Yeah. A truth scale. Lets talk theres now a truth scale. So well maybe we should discuss that later. But i mean, he and howard stern are friends, very friendly. Hes been on the show a lot. So do you think hes going to come out now and condemn howard . I dont know if hell condemn him or not but i know they have been very friendly. I dont know if this will come up in the next debate. Its been litigated and litigated to anyone who is still uncertain about this, i think they arent looking at the record here. Well see if donald trump will come out against howard stern. I dont think that would be very wise to pick a fight with howard stern if i was donald trump, but were certainly not offering him advice. That is a great assessment. I wouldnt pick a fight with howard stern. Donald trump just did an interview with and political director of nh 1, also worked here at some point and i want to go by this clip by clip and the responses. Lets look. Back on mondays debate, going into the debate a lot of people said that Hillary Clinton was going to try to bait you and some people say maybe you took the bait. Will you be more disciplined maybe in the second debate . I dont think i took the bait. You know every online poll had me winning the debate, so every single one of them, many of them, so look i found it to be an amazing experience actually. We had 88 Million People or something around that number and i just found it to be an amazing experience. I think we did well. I think im very happy with the way it turned out. So hes still insisting he won citing the online poll. Does he understand you can keep clicking and there was a campaign from his supporters to get him to win the debate . I mean, we go we see this day in and day out. I think donald stern gosh, listen to me. I think donald trump lives in an alternative reality at this point, and initially he probably doesnt believe it if he said it enough times, hes surrounded by the people that feed into him, he eventually believes it. But this is not a true fact. Those online polls are contests. Theyre not scientific. The only scientific polls that we have seen so far is the cnn orc poll. It was seen immediately afterwar afterwards. It showed our methodology and said it was skewed a little bit towards the democrats. Having said that, the margin was so high, Hillary Clinton clearly won that debate. But donald trump will go on because it reels up his base and his base clearly loves it. And you can program something you can keep going back and you can also program something to continue to vote for to vote one way. Okay. Lets move on now. I want you to listen to another clip. You were asked about the birther question, and you said you were proud of what you did. You did a service to the president and to the country. So do you stand by those comments . Youre proud of what you did . Im the one that got him to put up his birth certificate. Health care was unable to get there. And i will tell you, she tried. And you look at her campaign, and Everybody Knows it happened. I would say pretty much everybody agrees with me but she tried and she was unable to do it and i tried and i was able to do it. So im very proud of that. So wheres that on the truth scale . False, false, false, false, false, false. The fact of the matter is theres no evidence that Hillary Clinton or her campaign tried to discredit barack obama on the birther issue. Thats absolutely not true. But what is true is donald trump was one of, if not the leading voice of the Birther Movement to try to discredit barack obama when he was the president and in fact he rode this in many ways into the republican nomination and now as a republican nominee. Okay listen to one more subject. This one came up at the debate. You didnt mention bill clinton and his past affairs. You may do this a second debate . She was very nasty to me, and i was going to do it and i saw chelsea sitting out in the audience and i just want to go there. I thought it would be too business disrespectful. I just didnt want to do it but she was very nasty. Well see what happens but i didnt want to put it there. Its a hard thing to say in front of somebodys daughter. If it does come up though in the next debate, do you think maybe your past marital history is also fair game . I guess. I mean they can do, but a lot different than his i can tell you. We have a situation where we have a president who was a disaster and he was ultimately impeached over it in a sense for lying so well see whether or not we discuss it. Youre not worried about your past history at all . Not at all. I have a very good history. Mark . Well, i mean, on the issue of, did he bring it up on the debate stage or not, he certainly alluded to it on the debate stage and walked off the debate stage and talked about it pretty openly. In my book, he has brought it up and he has said it. It just so happened Chelsea Clinton wasnt staring at him and Chelsea Clinton has addressed this in a subsequent interview with a magazine. But moving on, as for his own marital history, we know he was married three times and he has had a very high profile extramarital affair, you know that hit in the new york tabs in what have you and really at this point in the campaign, it just shows you were going furtherer and further into the gutter as we head into november. Don if i can, he was the one who put the stories about the divorce in the campaign and repeatedly publicly humiliated the mother of his children and planted false stories that various famously beautiful women like kim basinger were involved with him or wanted to be involved with him that werent true. Im not sure his record is particularly admirable. I remember being here in 90s and his kids having to deal with that. That was part of the story they were in the tabloids. Republicans do not want him to go there. Dont want him to go there. The other thing we pointed out last time, in 2008, he gave an interview with wolf blitzer, he said bill clinton almost got he good morning got impeached for something he thought was very unimportant he thought it was silly when george bush, president at the time, got away with lying about the iraq war. Theres sound bite that shows that. Lets talk about this new reporting tonight. This is from david farrenhold at the Washington Post, reporting trumps Foundation Never got the certification in new york to order in order to solicit money from the public. Whats going on here . Well, new york, like california, the city of los angeles, a number of places, has a law that says if you are raising money and they set a threshold, 25,000 in new york. If you solicit money and raise more than 25,000, you have to have a license, you have to have a permit, otherwise scam artists could go door to door raising money and farenthold, who has been doing brilliant work, and went to the attorney general, did they file the necessary paperwork to solicit and they didnt. Okay. So heres what farrenhold told anderson. If thats the biggest consequence of having not registered, is if he had to register every year he would come through the independent auditor, look at all the checks and specifically ask the question, did Donald Trumps foundation spend money in a way that benefit the donald trump, and we found a few allegations where that seems to have happened over the few years and if they went through these audits they would have found it. Now were up to nine illegal examples, illegal conduct, by just the Trump Foundation and what this shows is theres very good reason to revoke the charitible status of the Trump Foundation. Selfinterested status, and paying off Donald Trumps legal obligations, buying paintings of him in his properties and soliciting money without authorization from the state. It also raises a question about if youre such a terrific businessman, this genius businessman, how come you keep running into illegal conduct . So for i heard Jeffrey Tubin on earlier saying there are a number of Charitable Foundations that arent run right and they miss licenses. In the scheme of things is this a big deal . You say it should be hut down. Shut down. Its a big deal under the law and we should be doing more to enforce laws and congress has a 1 law on tax foundations that is to support enforcement on the law. By the way most foundations and my wife runs a large Public Foundation are very well run and scrupulous what they do. The Clinton Foundation has audits. Trump hasnt done that which is a requirement, and they did a Forensic Audit and didnt find anything of any consequence. When they looked at everything as if it was a criminal investigation. Does this say about the way he runs his businesses and does this fold into the tax issue at all . First of all, trump may owe taxes on some of the gifts that were made to the foundation, if they were actually income to him that was diverted to the foundation that violates an ancient doctrine called the assignment of income doctrine. And the public has a right to know about that . Exactly. And in addition as i said on your show before, there are very strong badges of fraud in trumps 1984 tax return. We know that he participated in sales tax fraud, so it seems to me when you look at all of these things in context, its very strong evidence that trump really needs to come clean about his tax returns. Yeah. Okay. So farrenhold says in the most obvious example of a public solicitation, the Trump Foundation set up a web site to collect smalldollar donations that it promised to pass along to veterans. In all, the Trump Foundation took in 1. 6 upon Million Dollars through this site. Mark, the fact this is going through the president ial election, thats significant, right . And its grounds for the new York Attorney general who isnt is an elected democrat and trump feels is a part tan working against him, to invoke his powers. And he has substantial powers as the guardian of the charitable assets to examine the books and to revoke the charitable status, effectively revoke it. The irs is the one that would have to revoke it, but you can shut down their operations. And if you remember, the money he was raising for veterans occurred back in january during the Iowa Caucuses and he held a big event and he skipped a he skipped the debate. He skipped a fox debate because he wasnt happy with it. I went to that rally and he was supposed to save a lot of money and we stand here talking just before the election and Something Like this is dogging him. 40 days. And he was also turned down by one of the Veterans Charities that would not go on stage and get money from him because they were afraid their charitable status was revoked. I dont think it will happen to him, but its a matter of law, he asked them to do things that are illegal by participating in partisan political activities. David, mark, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Gentlemen, when we come back why the city of phoenix wants donald trump to pull one of his campaign ads. Upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage. Com business when you cook with incredible thingredients. Ato. You make incredible meals. Fresh ingredients, stepbystep recipies, delivered to your door for less than 9 a meal. Get 30 off your first delivery blueapron. Com cook. In the country have in common . Many of them now call Cancer Treatment centers of america home. Expert medicine works here. Find out why at cancer center. Com. Cancer Treatment Centers of america. More of that howard bombshell. Here to discuss, cnn political commentator anna navarre audio and scotty nell hughes. Hello to ale of you. Hillary, im going to start with you. Howard says donald trump did express support for the iraq war on his show in 2002. Lets listen to this. It always comes up because trump bass on our show years ago and said he was for the iraq war. He was saying he really wasnt for it so they were forced to mention my name. Yeah, its cool. Good promotion. So hillary, will this make a difference to trumps supporters . Its all about promotion. No, it wont matter to trumps supporters and really most people i think have decided that donald trump lies, like i think people just own that but for Trump Supporters they dont seem to care. Thats what is so confounding i think, particularly to regular reporters who constantly fact check him, and kobt standly find that he lice. And he never backs down, he never admits with transcripts, with witnesses, its just ongoing so really i think were just going to have to accept that and move on about the kind of president hes going to be. A lying president. Perhaps i should and a trump supporter, scottie, your reaction . Its interesting to hear a clinton supporter sit there about trump lying. Youve got Hillary Clinton, time and time again has lied to the American People saying she did not think there was any classified emails on her server. You had her lie about landing enemy sniper fire in bosnia. You had her lie about what caused benghazi. Scottie, my question was, will it make a difference to Trump Supporters . Absolutely not because we see the howard stern show for what it was. It was a piece of entertainment and four little words youre saying donald trump was for the the iraq war on an entertainment program. And by the way, our soldiers were already preparing for war, and i think mr. Trump felt it could be unpatriotic at that matter. What difference does it make as in the words of Hillary Clinton to expressing any but support for our soldiers. So it matters where the evidence comes from . Was it entertainment or was he supporting the troops . It was an entertainment show. If you remember that time period, which i do, our troops were already preparing for war even though congress had not necessarily voted for it they knew they were going and there were families that would have split up. It would have looked very unpatriotic to do anything but express if you listened to the answer it was very lukewarm because he did not want to sit there and tell these soldiers that left their family, i dont want to support you, thats not how we do it in america. So youre saying he support sit, but didnt mean it . Why isnt he saying that . Scottie, why isnt he saying that . Thats how it was from the very beginning and i was told why he was very lukewarm in the answer. I want to move on, ana, unless you want to discuss this. Do you want to move on or talk about this . Sweetheart, i can tell you i think both of these candidates could benefit from a big dose of truth serum in their Morning Coffee and it doesnt matter to either candidates supporters whether theyre telling the truth or not. You are not a donald trump supporter if you are bothered by shifting position. Today for the first time in its history, the usa today Editorial Board chose a side. They usually dont choose a side. They told their readers whatever you do, go out and vote, but just dont vote for donald trump. And one of the reasons they gave is how erratic he is, how much hes coorsened the discourse, and how much hes shifted positions. Sometimes he shifts positions more than once in one day. So thats not something that i think bothers Trump Supporters because they think, well, both of them are liars, ill choose the republican liar. Ana lets talk about this. According to the arizona republic, the city has sent the Trump Campaign a cease and lett