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Because people care enough to engage. Thats another thing that is revealed by suicide, another dirty secret. We need to care, caring counts. It can literally be medicine for someone in mental or emotional suffering. So, reach out. Dont wonder whats going on with someone, ask them. We are all in this together and we need to show it. If you do, it can literally be a life save. Im chris cuomo. Thank you so much for being with me this week. Please stay tuned for a special cnn contribute remembering anthony bowurdain. I think everybody who listens to The Parts Unknown are elect tied and peers through this. Anthony bourdain is dead. I was shocked. I think i actually screamed, oh, no. This is cnn breaking news. We have some terribly sad news to report this morning, Heart Breaking and devastation. Once we were sure all of us gotten the numbers had been notified thats when We Wen On The Air with the news. Host of parts unknown and our friend Anthony Bourdain was found dead. Anthony hung himself in his hotel room. The idea he was suffering somehow was Heart Breaking. Honestly, talking about him in the past tense its, its really yeah, its really hard to hard to imagine. I mean, you never know what goes on in anybodys head or heart. But certainly, you know, the pain he must have been feeling, at least in that moment or in those moments, and the loneliness he must be feeling its just terribly sad to think about. And makes me very sad for him to have to have a custom to that. Somebody as passionate, alive, warm and humid as tone any bourdain, i couldnt imagine, a, that he was gone, and b, that he was gone in this matter. He took his own life and our history. Itself left a massive hole in our world. I lost a brother to suicide, so, i know the shock that loved ones feel. Its something that i thought about for 30 years and i dont have any answers about why somebody does it. Anthonys life changed in 1999, thats when he wrote his famous article in the new yorker. Dont eat before eating this. He was letting us all inside the kitchen, revealing the secrets of the chef world. It quickly became a book, Kitchen Confidential that came out years earlier and were still talking about it now. Parts unknown started on cnn in 2013 and it was like a bolt of lightning. The give of life, sticky rice. I said, Anthony Bourdain on cnn, What The Hell is that about, right. I didnt quite get it at first. I was like, we dont do, thats not what kwn does. And he did it, and i got it. The guy is genius. Its brilliant. Have you eaten yet or have you had rice . Both. Really means have you seenen rice yet, but really means, hows it going. I feel he was a better journ journalist than any of us could ever be. Because it came to him naturally. It was just curiosity. And, isnt that really what being a journalist is all about, being curious . When he brought parts unknown to cnn and i interviewed hip about his mission was. He basically says, i want to go to familiar and less familiar places to tell the American People about all these places but through the medium theyll be able to relate to. So, food. Everyone can relate to food, right . So he was also telling about culture and politics, and history, and the geography, but through food. Welcome to Shanghi Profenc D he understand. That episode that i love was the episode about pittsburgh, just because hes saying, Anthony Bourdain Parts Downknown travels the world. Hes going to paurg, right . How do you do . 103 years old. Looking good. He talk about the filibuster and how the organization is left sitting behind. The money is definitely coming in. No, it is not. The episode in talking about the Reemerging Food Scene in pittsburgh was little about the food and more about society and people, and people down on their luck and how they fight their way back up. What did you decide to say . I wanted to cook. And the committee that leads to Government Policy and everything in between. A lot of people in this country are angry, they feel that their anger is not being acknowledged in any way, and frankly i think theyre right. Yep. And, thats all encompassed of just an episode of parts unknown. Its a rare talent to be able to put it all together. For me, the word that best describes tony is passion. He just felt so mush passion for what he did and what he saw. I dont think he ever had no opinion on something. It wasnt like, whatever. Its a salute. I think that was the darkest scene man. He was actually as you see on television. He was funny, sarcastic, he had a dark sense of humor. He loved nothing more if i went out to meals with him he enjoyed getting me to eat bizarre foods i would never in a million years eat. This is tripe. What is tripe . It means good. Is it brains or the penis of a shark or . No, no not that good. It is the Stomach Lining of the cow. He loved cinema, the music, all that was incorporated in these Travel Journeys that he would produce. I actually end up taking trips to places he had been because i went tanjeera after he took a trip there, i thought, wow that was interesting because i wanted to see what he saw. One day, tony and i were sitting off Stage Waiting for something to happen. He looked at me and asked, what are you about, what is your passion . And i said, fighting. I love to fight. And his eyes i remember he had these hooded eyes and he recently found gjj. And he loved it so much. Every morning, 7 00 a. M. Im here. For the next hour or two hours or sometimes more, im just getting crushed. The most recent conversation i had with him was not too long ago. He had said, you know what i love about it, the struggle. I love the struggle. I love trying to figure out how to get out of this and what to do next. And that struggle, no matter how much you think thats it, im going to have to tap out, i find a way out of it, i love it. Anthony earned practically every award you can earn in the t. V. Industry. Five emmy awards just for parts unknown. The pbody in 2013 was presented his first year on cnn. We asked specific questions, what makes you happy wharks do you eat wharks do you like to cook. And everywhere in the world we go and ask these simple questions he get astoning answer. Viewers felt like theyve lost a friend, pause they found a friend in him through television. Id always yell back at him, in my next life im coming back as Anthony Bourdain. And hed look at me and be like, okay, good luck with that one. I think thats why that is not unique to me, right, everybody wanted to be a little bit of Anthony Bourdain. Overliquored overfed, traveling the world having fun connecting with people and getting paid to do it. Oh, enchanted land of my childhood. A cutlery dish from Which Regularry issued forth greatness. New jersey in case you didnt know it, has beautiful beaches. Theyre not all crawling with raging trolls with reality shows. I grew up summering on these beaches and they were awesome. He just was a regular person, you know in his regular jeans and regular shirt. He had no pretension or interest in pretension, it was one of the most compelling and enduring things about him. He was somebody who was introverted and just happened to have this very public job of being on television and being in the public eye. It was interesting, he was this buckling larger than life character who was very good looking, women loved and men wanted to be, and and yet he was always kind of to me it always seemed like even though he was very confident or seemed very confident, he was always i think he was always kind of just winking at it all. He was kind of all in on the joke, that it didnt really mean anything, that were all humble, were all fragile. Jerseys got farmland, beautiful community, that woman from Kws Housewives does not live, anyolike anyone like her. The refineries, the wetlands, to me, somehow beautiful. To know jersey is to love her. Im a jersey girl, so i watch that had with wrapped attention of what he was going to bring to life in new jersey from his hometown. He had humble beginnings, he came from the jersey shore. I think it was the fact he had a rough life in his 20s, and in retrospect was amazed he survived his 20s and didnt die then. I think must have gotten him in touch with humanity, not just himself put everyone. Theres nothing like the north atlantic. Its majestic. I love the beach. Pretty much had my first everything on the beach. You name it, first time i did it, beach. I was miserable in love, happy in love as only a 17yearold could be. This is where i lived, very happy summer in the early 70s. He drops out of vasser, guess to the culinary institute. He had vivid stories about working in these kitchens at prof venues town. It was here. Provision, massachusetts where the first landed. It was where i first landed. 1972 washed into town with a head full of sunshine and a few friends. Long time tradition of accepted artists, writer, the badly behaved, gay, it was different. It was paradise. We all did drugs, acted young and crazy. And tony he was probably wild and some not as wild as others. He was willing to show us all sides of his amazing life, the good, bad and ugly. Tony came raw to the picture. He came with his history of his own demons. He didnt hide that he had these terrible problems with alcohol, with heroin, and yet, thats what made him so relatable. Tony always owned his strug us and one of them was drugs and heroin. It was a 1980s thing for him and he worked through. I know what the life of somebody who wakes up in the morning and the first odd of business is get heroin. Having been through it myself, going to a meeting, addicts. You know, they said something to say to me and i had something to say to them. There was a vulnerability to him as cool as he was, that he would expose. Ill tell you something really shameful. The first time i shout out i looked at myself in the mirror with a big grin. You know, something was missing in me, whether it was a selfimage situation, whether it was a character flaw. That Stable Family in the suburbs, i had a lot of advantages. There was some dark jennie inside me that led me to dope, i didnt have anyone else who could have talked me out of what i was doing. Intervention wouldnt have worked. I didnt have a child. I have a 7yearold daughter now, who i never would have had, i never would have thought. I looked in the mirror, i saw somebody worth saving, or that i wanted to at least try real hard and save. Anybody could find themselves very easily in this situation. And, you know i look back and i think about, you know, i think about what ill tell my daughter. You know, that was daddy. No doubt about it that i hope ill be able to say that was daddy then and this is daddy now, that im alive, living and healthy. He brought to cnn something that very few others had brought and that was a sense of knowing who he was, not being afraid of saying who he was. Of not being afraid to relate his weaknesses as well as his strengths and unique ability to tell stories. He brought all that to people. He was really exploring the human condition. He was talking about what it means to be human and what we all share all around the world. Obviously, we all share a need to eat, but he was going so much further talking opinion what we have in common and what connect us. I come to a fact that in an earlier life im probably responsible for one dead colombia, due to my lifestyle in the 80s there was a real effective on the ground. How does that i question i came back with questioning, it would be the drug war. I asked him about his own life and his own drug use, which hes talked about, hes been so candid about it for years. I almost caught him off guard. I just remember his response was something to the fact of, he wondered if his own drug use from years ago, really heavy drug use contributed to the death of someone in the drug trade in colombia or beyond. And he was so serious about it. I dont want to say it almost felt like it still haunted him but it was something he was aware of as one of his past demons. My Drug Addiction i hope, its in fact the most interesting part of my life. There is it is part of my life, it changed me and it allowed me to, i think better understand some things about life, about myself and what im capable of doing, and its given me a certain, on one end, empathy for some people, and a complete lack of empathy for others. Thats something i felt i should talk about. I see this particular moment as as a clear example of how we might change our drug policies, and i thought you should know why it matters to me. Its that simple. I think he did everybody a real service by talking about his observe addiction and how much he struggled with heroin and cocaine. I think that again, the more we can talk about these hard subjects the more it removes the stigma. To know he had overcome those things i think is inspirational. I think it gives everybody hope to know they can overcome something really hard. And that is why the pain of this, i think is doubly compounded, because he had overcome, it seemed, some demons in the past. And i guess that doesnt make you bullet proof. You know, i didnt know him well enough to know to know if he was still haunted by it put im sure it never leaves you. When you go through that kind of experience its always going to be there. You might it, deal with it, and move on. I always thought he did an amazing job in moving on. And in the process, helping all of us move on. He was so real and so authentic, in the end, maybe he was too real for his own self. I think The Real Thing the know he was a deeply deeply human being, he was a devine talent, a unique voice and deeply human. His stories wasnt about food. Food was a conduit it drew you in. Once it drew you in it was about the experience, connection and interactions with people. It was the Obama White House who reached out to cnn, and i put them in touch with bourdain. They wanted thats who Anthony Bourdain was, obama wanted to go have food with him, not the other way around. Anthonys point was, i didnt want some fancy state dinner, its got to be the scooter and the whole thing. And he got it his way. How you liking vietnam . Love it. Anthony said for him, while the Secret Service were, you know, apparently very cool, they were freaking out because they cant taste test the food or anything, but obama had no problem coming in eating the local food and having a local beer. First of all, i dont get to sneak out period, but once in a while, ill take michelle out on a date night. The problem is, part of enjoying a restaurant is sitting with other patrons and enjoying the atmosphere, and too often we get shut into one of those private rooms. Im glad i can help. Absolutely. Toneny asked the president , do you ever just get to sort of do this . To sit down and chill and have a beer . Which was a great question to ask. Seemed to be turning endless. I mean, were actually talking about building a wall around our country, and yet you have been reaching out to people who dont necessarily agree with this. Gaza, iran, cuba, i mean i just wish more americans had pass ports. You can see how other people lives, seems useful but incredible at best. It confirms the basic truth that people everywhere are pretty much the same, same hopes and dreams. When you come to people like vietnam and you see former vietnam americans coming back. When you see somebody like john mccain who were able to bond in their experience, you dont make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies. As the father of a young girl, is it all going to be okay, is it all going to wake up, my daughter will come here and be able to have a bowl of food and the world would be a better place . I think progress is not a straight line. You know, there are going to be moments at any given part of the world where things are terrible. But, having said all that, i think theres no thank you so much. Cheers. Cheers. There isnt a lot of chefs who get to sit down and interview the president of the united states. The reason i think president obama wanted to sit down with tony in vietnam had nothing to do with the food, it was the talk again about life. Anthony interviewing a russian and who was a credit tick of the regime, he was good at peekiick people who were in the cross hairs of bad guys. So, we were supposed to be dining at another restaurant this evening, when they heard you would be joining me, we were uninvited. Should i be concerned about having dinner with you . Either you have business you are in a very unsafe situation. Everybody can press you and destroy your business. This is a system. Meet boris, he was a depth Prime Minister and today hes one of putins vocal visit critics. This restaurant was kind enough to take us in. This chef is a britt so maybe he has less reason to worry. The government, putin, bad things seem to happen to them. Known even enemy of putin, are you concerned . Me, myself . Yeah. Pain in the ass. I was born here 54 years old, this is my country. Russian education decline every year, i believe russia has a chance to be free. He i think up getting assassinated shortly after. Anthony was not shying away in any way from serious political issues in the place. He embraced all those issues. The idea that bourdain would have met with boris in russia before he was killed, thats what bourdain was doing, was looking to tell stories of humanity and oppression. I remember asking Tony Bourdain what would be the buck list location to a guy whose been around the world five times. He said iran. Low and behold several seasons later, there he was. He was interviewing the Washington Post at the time, jason and his wife. Is fun even a good idea . Theres a lot of security, lots of rules, there are a lot of people in place to make sure you do the right thick, not do the wrong thing. But a lot of push and pull, lot of give and take. Do you like it, are you happy here . Look, im in a point now after five years where i miss certain things about home. I miss my buddies, i miss burritos, i miss having certain beverages with my buddies and burritos at certain type of establishments. But i love it. I love it and i hate it. Its home. Its become

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