This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. The special Counsel Robert Mueller releasing a memo tonight full of details about then National Security adviser Michael Flynns interview with the fbi at the white house. That interview took place on january 24th of 2017 just days after President Trumps inaugurati inauguration. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying during that interview about his contacts with then Russian Ambassador sergei kislyak. It cost him his post as National Security adviser. And in a matter of hours he faces sentencing. The special Counsel Robert Mueller has recommended no prison time for flynn and thats because unlike his lies to the fbi he told the truth to muellers investigators. That includes meeting with prosecutors 19 times. Mueller also said flynns guilty plea a year ago encouraged others to cooperate. Michael flynn was not alone in having ties to russia. According to cnns count, at least 16 Trump Associates had contacts with russians during the campaign or transition. Todays memo shows us one more piece of that puzzle. We have a lot to discuss this hour. I want to bring in now Fareed Zakaria, the host of Fareed Zakaria gps. Good to see you. How are you . Hope you had a good weekend. Thank you for coming in. The sheer scope of the russian outreach and interference in americas election is breath taiking. Seems like they spared no outlet, no possible point of contact. They went all out. They went all out. And again, its important to point out this is not true of every country. This is not if you were to try to do a similar sweep on china you would not find anything like this. This seems to have been a pretty systematic effort with one campaign trying to get at the lets remember, they tried to get to the Campaign Manager. They tried to get the candidates son. They tried to get to the candidates chief National Security adviser. So they really were surrounding the people who were surrounding donald trump were all being lobbied pretty hard by the russians. And michael flynn, you know, when he talked to the fbi and lied to them, its unlikely that this was a slipup or a mistake or an error. Flynn was the former head of an intelligence agency, a huge intelligence agency, by the way, with a massive budget. Thousands of people working for him. He knows what it means to lie to federal agents about National Security issues. Hes a 33year veteran of the armed services. Hes a lieutenant general. And he was National Security adviser for trump effectively during the campaign and the transition. It is highly unlikely that he somehow accidentally forgot to tell this or he knew what he was doing. And apparently, hes come clean. Hes the last person to say this is how you conduct yourself around investigators. There were people on the trump circle about whom you could say that. They were naive, theyd come in from the business side, they may not have known. Not michael flynn. Michael flynn was a veteran of the National Security establishment. As i said, run one of the largest intelligence agencies. He knew about intelligence, about lying, about federal agents. When i talked about outlets as well, this is beyond the campaign. Lets talk about the american people. Right . And social media. Lets talk about the senates report on russian interference on social media. Details and stats as disclosed as discussed here. Researchers analyzed more than 10 million tweets, 116,000 instagram posts, 61,000 facebook posts, and 1,000 videos posted by the Internet Research agency, a russianlinked troll farm that was indicted by the Mueller Investigation earlier this year. Does that speak to how well planned this operation was . Thats a lot. 116,000 instagram posts, 61,000 facebook posts and then 1,000 videos. It speaks to the fact that the russians have had this capacity for a while. They got very good at it. Ukraine, then western europe and the united states. They seem to have been the early adopter, the lead player in this game of governments trying to do this. And its scary how effective they were able to be just with the breadth of activity you described. But the reason most americans on both sides of the aisle should be really alarmed by the Senate Report is it is absolutely clear that this is relatively easy to do today, that other countries are probably watching and have learned from the russians and that this can easily happen again. What russia did in 2016 china could do, iran could do, north korea could do. There are all kinds of it didnt take a lot. It took concerted government effort, some resources but all well within the scope of what a government can afford. And if were not worried about what the russians did in the past we should be worried about what they might do in the future, what the chinese might do, iranians this is now open season. They also played on our divisions as well in society. I just want to read a bit, you talked about it in your Washington Post oped, about political divisions in america and the west. And heres what you write. You say the fissure between relatively educated urbanites and less educated rural populations appears to have become the new dividing line in western politics. Outsiders feel ignored or looked down upon and feel deep resentment toward metropolitan elites. Its part class, part culture, but there is a large l economics to it as well. So how big of a role does race or culture play versus economics here . You know, in america particularly these things are, mied up. You cant entirely separate race and class and culture because partly through a history of government policy it has been possible to discriminate and segregate against blacks, for example, keeping them in getos. And so you know, its difficult to unpack. What i would say is this. If you look at the people who feel the most outrage, these are people who tend to be again, you were talking averages and big data. It tends to be on the older side, white men with less education who live outside cities. Because in a way their world has been upended. They lived in these small towns and they felt they have a lot of status, they had a steady job. And that world has gone away and that world has been replaced by the jobs have gone. That status has gone away with the rise of a much more diverse heterogeneous society. I think its difficult to say what part of it is going on. But what has happened is these two americas are growing further and further apart. And heres the scary part, don. These forces are working at overdrive. So there was a great report by brookings on since the recession of 08, 75 roughly of the economic employment gains since that in this last decade have gone to the 50 top cities in america. Now, to give you a perspective, you take all the cities in america, not just the 50 top cities, and they occupy 3 1 2 of the land mass of america. Whats happening is Economic Opportunities and activities being constant trauted in these small strips on the coast and a few cities in the center. And the people who are not there feel like they have just been left behind and they once had status and now theyre angry and resentful. And the russians youre right. The brilliant thing the russians did was play on those divisions and amp them up. Just as they continue to do, by the way. But thats where the populations are. The populations are in the city. 70 of americans now live in the city. But thats what has people so upset. You see resentment upon on the part of people who live in the city because they feel theyre being represented by a Smaller Group in the country. What is, it next year were going to have a senate that the majority represents a minority of americans in this country . Well, another way to put that statistic is 30 of america is now electing 70 of the senate. All those states with think of wyoming. It has roughly a Million People. It has two senators. California with 70 Million People has two senators as well. We have a kind of structural problem here where the land is being overrepresented. The people are being underrepresented. So both sides feel deeply wronged. So then how do you bridge that gap, so to speak . Because youre going to have a rural minority overlooking an urban majority and our lives dont really mirror each other at all. And theyre going further away. Look, this is one of those things where everybody wants to be an optimist, everybody wants to have a solution. Look at whats going on in france. Its the same people protesting. Look at who voted for brexit. Its the same people. More rural, less educated, older. And nobody has an answer lets be honest the next wave, dons going to be automation and artificial intelligence. You have 3 million Truck Drivers in america. Whats going to happen to them . But thats the point. And listen, i dont mean any i dont mean to disparage older rural people. But thats not the way the world is going. Thats not the way the world is moving. The world is not moving back to rural older america. And in a way i dont know what the answer is, but i think better to have an honest conversation about this rather than what trump has done is its a scam. Its snake oil salesmanship where he says all these jobs are going to come back, your status is going to come back, well make America Great again. Its a nostalgia tour. Its not real. The problem is actually the opposite. The jobs are moving faster than they were before. Yeah. Thank you, fareed. Dont miss Fareed Zakaria gps sundays at 10 00 a. M. And at 1 00 p. M. Our thanks to Fareed Zakaria again. Were learning a lot more tonight about the members of team trump who had contact with russia during the campaign. But is President Trumps real achilles heel his businesses . Spread a little love today spread a little love myy way spread a Little Something to remember philadelphia cream cheese. Made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. The holidays are made with philly. I felt i couldnt be at my best for my family. , their holiday favourites. In only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured and left those doubts behind. I faced reminders of my hep c every day. But in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. Even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c. But in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. Mavyret is the only 8week cure for all common types of hep c. 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David cay johnston is here as well. Hes the author of its even worse than you think what the Trump Administration is doing to america. Its very positive, david. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. That was sarcasm, everyone. Good evening, gentlemen. Good to have you on. Michael, there are now so many questions into President Trump. You say that trump believed that the real estate business in new york was corrupt and deceptive and he acted accordingly. Explain. Right. He did believe it was and he did act accordingly. When Donald Trumps dad was coming up in the 30s and the 40s, it was a profoundly corrupt business. You had to pay off the unions. A lot of what you purchased had a big markup because you were also paying off people there. Politicians were greased. Donalds father actually went around and gave federal Housing AuthorityPeople Television sets and cash. So this was the way it was back then but it wasnt the way it was by the time donald got into it in the 1970s and 80s. It was starting to be cleaned up. The corruption in all of the big rust belt cities was being squeezed out of real estate development. But he assumed that this is what you do. So you didnt rent to black and hispanic applicants. You just committed fraud and denied them apartments. You when russians came calling with their cash to launder money through your apartment buildings, you sold to them even though you were supposed to do Due Diligence according to your lenders. So there was all kinds of fraud going on in the Trump Organization all the way back and all the way through till today. Wow. So david, the sdny is also looking into how the 107 million raised by trumps Inauguration Committee was spent. Where do you think that will lead . I think its going to lead at least in part right back to the trumps. I called on congress when we first found out about the first hint something was amiss here, the congressional the government accounting office, the investigative arm of congress should do an audit to find out where this money went. Remember that melania trumps interior designer friend who worked for five weeks was paid about 26 million. For what . This was a lowrent inaugural that raised more than twice as much money as the lavish inaugural in 2009 of barack obama. David, the most recent revelation over the weekend by Rudy Giuliani is that trump was still discussing trump tower moscow until november of 2016. He was talking about doing business with a country that was known to be interfering in our election at the time. Well, and a lot of that explains trumps solicitousness to Vladimir Putin and the kremlin to today. And the information we have is that they were discussing this at least through the period when trump knew he would get the republican nomination. It may well have gone on beyond that. Theres nothing that tells us it did not. And thats one of the many shoes from robert mueller, whos going to turn out to be a legal centipede, that im waiting to see drop. A legal centipede . Wait, wait, explain that. What do you mean . The old saying were waiting for the shoe to drop. And muellers got a lot of shoes to drop. All right. I thought thats what it was. But there you go. Okay. Thanks for explaining that. So michael, lets talk about adam schiff, the soon to be chairman of the house intel committee. He was asked on sunday about trumps red line. Listen to this. The president has wanted to draw a red line and say you cant look at my business. But if the president s business is trying to curry favor with the kremlin, we cant ignore that. And the president should not be in a position to say you cant investigate certain things, only other things that i dont care as much about. So thats what i mean. If mueller is not looking into this, and i dont know whether he is, someone needs to. Because otherwise were being derelict with our security. Is the president in for a rude awakening when democrats take over the house . Well, he is. And if they go back far enough, theyre going to discover amazing things. I mean, the number of russian mobsters who were investing in Trump Properties is stunning. There was a fellow who went into one of trumps buildings, actually bought the unit right below Kellyanne Conways unit. He invested in it, sold it a month later for a half milliondollar profit. A year after that he gets shot to death on the sidewalk in new york city. There is such a mess in this Trump Organization. There are so many frauds to be investigated, so many crimes to be investigated. In 2015 the trump taj mahal paid a 10 million fine for laundering money through the casino. This is 2015. And they had to confess to this practice going on for years. So i think congressman schiff is absolutely right. Theres a red line they should march across and deploy the troops in all directions. Wow. David, did you want to respond to that . I had a question for you here, but i know you wanted to respond. Well, i think michaels exactl