Transcripts For CNNW Cuomo Prime Time 20180622 : vimarsana.c

Transcripts For CNNW Cuomo Prime Time 20180622

Kids. And last week the attorney general was quoting scripture to justify ripping kids apart from their parents at the border. Today, a reversal of biblical proportions. The American People dont like the idea that were separating families. We never really intended to do that. What . Wasnt that exactly the intention, mr. Sessions . What do you say, my friends . Lets get after it. We saw something we havent seen, trump caving to political pressure. The former Campaign Manager who ignited fury after seeing kids separated on tv from their families. Cory lewandowski. Theres a lot of fallout from what you said. Let me remind people about the back and forth you had with the democratic operative. About a 10yearold girl with down syndrome who was taken from her mother and put in a cage. I read about a did they just say wahwah . How dare you. How dare you when you how absolutely dare you, sir. Lets get through the noise. Cory . Tell me that you did not mean to insult kids with down syndrome or families coming across with kids like that. Chris, of course i never meant to insult anybody with down syndrome. Who i was talking to was zach. I understand what the perception is here and what the media wants to talk about. But what zach was attempting to do was to use a child with down syndrome to politicize an issue. What he didnt tell you, what you need to understand was that person, that poor child was not taken from her parent because she came to this country illegally. That poor child was taken from her parent because her mother has been suspected as a material witness in a smuggling ring. I would never degrade a child. Im a father of four i understand that. We have to get past using children as political tools and come up with real solutions. All right but lets get i hear what was going on with you and zach. Theres bigger realities i need you to address. One involves you. One involves the administration. It seemed like you were dismissing the plight of people coming across the border. And to the extent that thats how people took it and they find that offensive, shouldnt you apologize for that if you didnt mean it . Im not here to offend anybody. Im here to defend the laws of country. People shouldnt be offended. Were the nation of laws. Those laws are very clear. We are the country, the largest country in the world that grants asylums to individuals being persecuted. We grant over 1 million asylums a year. The second highest country is germany. We are a country of immigrants, a country with a big heart and that wants to welcome people in. You have to do it legally. If we dont have laws and rules, then we cant be successful. And people understand that. Were a great country. Were all immigrants, chris. But we have a different way of coming here. And it has to be done legally. And thats whats important. Right. But justice is fairness under law. So youve got the law and then youve got how you choose to enforce t we know what happened here. The president wanted to make a statement of strength. He didnt plan for his own success. He didnt set up the facilities, the process. He just went with the politics and the message. Now we have a mixed message from the president. He put out an executive order saying i get it, that crying kids are bad for me. We shouldnt be like this. Im going to fix it. I want to play for you what he said and then what he said today. The American People dont like the idea that were separating families. We never really intended to do that. If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you. And that child may be separated from you as required by law. 2,000mile journey up mexico. They walk through mexico like theyre walking through central park. Its ridiculous. Theyre drug traffickers. They are human traffickers. Theyre coyotes. I mean, were getting some real beauties. Mexico is doing nothing for us except taking our money and sending us drugs. All right. I wanted to be very clear here. Sometimes people say, like you cory, well, thats the president. He speaks. Hes a little hyperbolic. I wanted to show you him and the attorney general jeff sessions. Both said completely contradi contradictory things. Trump and sessions said this would going to be about making it okay and they both contradicted themselves. What is the policy . Let me read you exactly what the president said yesterday. Its about keeping Families Together while at the same time being sure that we are very powerful, very strong border. Thats what its about. But he said something else. In a Cabinet Meeting today. Do we have the sound to play for corey . He said today at the Cabinet Meeting this executive order, corey, is limited. And families will still be separated. So what the hell is the policy . He signed the executive order to make so they wouldnt be separated and today he said they still will be separated. Chris, the problem is that theres a federal ruling that you know exists right now and would be appealed to the ninth circuit. Ten states are challenging the executive order right now. What this president has said is that he has done everything he can within the confines of the law which have been established to fix the problem. This is congress problem. The democrats had supermajorities in the u. S. In 60 votes, in the majority in the house in 2006 and 08 and they chose not to fix this problem. Who signed the 2008 law that guides today, who signed it . Barack obama. Wrong. 2008, it was signed by president bush. Okay . Im not big into politics blame game i think there are problems with both sides toos why weve been stuck with a bad system that is inhumane on many levels for many years. However lets call the facts as they fall. Bush signed it. It says you cant keep juveniles more than 20 days and treat them in the right conditions. It was a humane settlement that the doj agreed to. It isnt about the law. Its how you choose to enforce t bush struggled with this. Obama struggled with this. Trump was struggling with this but decided to do this proxy of strength in the form of harshness. Lets arrest them all. But he wasnt ready for it, and he created a crisis, corey. Thats the truth. Look what has happened under the Trump Administration. Because our economy is so successful, unaccompanied alien children, pending cases are up to 78,000 right now pending cases. There were 3,000 in 2009. Approximately 90 of the removal orders ordered against unaccompanied children each year for failures to appear is the problem. Weve seen a 636 increase in unaccompanied aliens at ports of entry. Right. Since 2017, april of 2017. This has gone out of control because what has happened in the past isnt it out of control now, corey . Absolutely. Its out of control. We agree on the problem. Here are the points we need a solution. This wasnt the solution. Thats my point. Thats my point, corey. Let me tell you what the solution is. Hes making it worse. Chris, let me tell what the solution is. Democrats and republicans have to get together. Senate cant get it down without nine democratic votes. Men and women in Congress Need to serve the problems. Republicans wont put up a bill other than ted cruz and even that has addons, nobody on the republican side, unless you throw a camera in their face and say how do you feel about separating kids from families theyre not putting out bills with gusto to stop this problem. Theyre using it as leverage. To me that doesnt speak to a basic sense of humanity about this. Look, i dont disagree with you. But the problem has existed for a long time. Weve Given Congress a pass for too long for not saving it. Hold on a second, corey. I hear you. Ive got to tell you, its slipping the blame here. Congress needs to act. The system has problems, period. Okay. But that doesnt justify what trump just did here. He did something that he had to know, if he has any common sense and any kind of council around him was going to blow up the situation in a bad way. They had to know, corey. And he did it anyway. Chris . Chris, you would have rather seen additional children being separated from their parents . No. Hes separating the kids. He stopped that from happening. He did the separations by increasing the arrests. He changed the policy from he signed an executive order yesterday. I know. And he today he said it was no more separation. I know. But look nothing has been followed through on. And he doesnt satisfy say how he will reunitee the kids whachlt about that . You can only solve one problem at a time. Look, theres one problem at a time to solve. He created the problem, corey. Thats what im saying. Chris, because the law is the law. He said let me chris, were a nation of laws and the law was very clear. And there is an opportunity to enforce the laws that exist. We need to change those laws. Then you wind up like this. The president sait said im going to follow the laws. Lets build a border wall. As soon as you build that wall, 90 of this problem stops. We dont know that. Absolutely. We dont know that any wall would make that kind of difference. We glossed over one thing. Hold on. We glossed over something. And i need to hit you on one more thing. We glossed over something. Why is the number up . The economy is strong. What does that mean . The demand is strong. What does that mean . We have so many jobs. The flow of supply in from south of the border. Let me ask you this. For all your roundups and demonizing of the people who come here from the work, how Many Employers have you put in jail . How many laws have you changed . Theyre all civil laws if you come for the job you get treated like a dog and thrown in a cage. Is that right to you, corey . Do you know whats not right to me . Kate steinle who is dead because of the people who came across the border illegally. The number of crimes is lower than the overall crime rate. If youre worried about people being killed you have a lot of other places to look. One is one too many. You tell that to the families dont give me the compassion tell that to brian terry, the Police Officer killed guarding this country and was killed on the border. Whether theyre undocumented or not . What im telling you as a former Police Officer i can tell you this, we should never have a Police Officer killed in the line of duty from anybody illegally in this country. We should never have a Police Officer killed in country period. Thats right. And if youre not in this country illegally youre not doing that. Feeding the need for jobs and workers but youre not going after the people who are really causing it the people who are hiring them. This president you wont even the answer. Why not go after the employers . Here is what this president said. Chris, here is what the president said. Give me the money for the wall and people who are in this country through no fault of their own, we will make them citizens, give them a path. He has offered that and the democrats have said no. Thats not true. It is absolutely true. They gave him the wall for daca and he wanted chain migrat oichlt n. They never gave him money for the wall. 25 billion and daca and he said i want the other things. They gave him a down payment on the wall. Chris, they gave him a down payment for the wall. s asking for the money for the wall. He got money for the wall. Thats how it works. He didnt get 25 billion for the wall. He got 25 billion over a certain number of years. Chris, the Congress Funds one year at a time is what they fund. Facts are friends. You wont talk about why you dont go after employers. Why not . Of course you have to go after employers. Look, why dont we force everify . Absolutely. If employers are employing illegal aliens to do things illegally, they should be held accountable. Look what happened in ohio. Those employers are held accountable, employers who want to hire illegals need to be held accountable. Theyre not, though. Theyre not. Why arent we using that . They are using it. Look what happened in ohio. Enforce the law. Look what just happened in ohio. What laws do you want to enforce . I think you enforce all the laws. Which ones . Its discretion of how you enforce them fairly. No, you only want to enforce the ones that are convenient. How is this convenient . The books you just said you want to enforce all the laws. The law on the book says if you come to this country illegally youll be separated. Thats not what it says. What law can we enforce . Thats not what the law says. It absolutely says that. It does not. It says if you come across the border, it is a crime. If you come over with children, youre not allowed to keep children in the conditions that you keep adults. Thats on you, to come up with the right proceed ours. And you will be separated. It says you will be separated. And you had no plan for how to take care of them, no plan for what to do with the kids under the law and no way to deal with it quickly. Now youre asking the courts for more time. Thats the solution . Lets lock up kids for longer . Come on. United states has different laws than any other country. Lets go to merit based system. Why dont you lock up some employers . Show people that you are fair handed in this and make them all ms13 and killers . I agree with you, chris. Lets implement everify. They dont do that. Theyre putting kids in cages. They catch a guy in ohio with 100 illegal laborers in his company, he gets a fine. Thats fair . We caught a guy in california who killed kate steinle and he got off. He had been deported five times, came and killed a woman on a peer in california sfle got off because of a trial in which they didnt find him guilty of the charges. Okay. Go ask kates father, who was there, if he killed her or not. You feel for the victims. Im saying that was the law. That was the process. They had a trial. That is what they found. Justice doesnt always make everybody happy. He had been deported five times. I get t he should have never been here. Thats why people have been here. He never should have been here. That doesnt mean all people who come illegally liker like him. Let me end on this. I dont agree. Fine. I dont disagree with you, that everyone is not like that animal who killed kate steinle. The point is this. Is there a there is a way to come to this country legally. We accept more immigrants than any country in the world. If you dont want your children separating your separating the asylum people getting treated like everybody else. The claim isnt getting processed quickly and you didnt plan it out. Thats not true. Will you admit that the way this was done was a mistake . Implementing the law, following the law . The president had to admit it by signing this executive order, whatever it means or doesnt mean. Would you admit this is a mistake . Will you own it . Ill admit this very clearly. No one wants to see their children separated from their parents. You shouldnt have started doing it. This is what happens when you have the law and break the laws. Dont rob a bank with your children. Chris, if you rob a bank with your children, guess what its a fel ony. Not a misdemeanor crossing the border. You showed intent to harm people. If you went to any other country in the world and crossed their border illegally, would you expect to be able to stay with your children . Germany has a much more open you say crime went up. The opposite is true. Their illegal inentries are down. Trump cant get his facts straight. They only accept 198,300. We take 1. 2 million in asylum a year. Thats about demand, right . I appreciate you making it clear to the audience you werent intending to offend people when what you said on tv. We can disagree but not be without decency. Thank you for coming on to clear that up and making the case. Coreylewandowski. The Trump Administration said it reversed course on separating families. Is it true . It depends on which donald trump you want to believe. But for all we know, this is the one thing we have for sure. This is a crisis. Thats what it is. And it is far from over. In fact, we will show you why the worst may lie ahead. [music playing] vo from day one, we always came through for our customers. Its how we earned your trust. Until. We lost it. Today, were renewing our commitment to you. Fixing what went wrong. 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This is about how you choose to enforce it. Why are we having this big problem now if the laws havent changed . Because the policy did. President trump could have stopped all of this with a phone call. The executive order was not necessary. It may not even be operative. The order said it is meant to, quote, maintain family unit. Okay . Thats what he said. So, no separation. But then today, the president said the order is limited and families will still be separated. So which trump is it . The most glaring owe mission from the order . How do you reunitee the 2,300 kids torn from their parents spread all over the country . The administration hasnt provided any details on the plan. Why is that . Is it because all the agencies are confused about what to do now because this has been so haphazard or is it that the president does not intend to expedite reunification . We dont know. Many of these kids, as i said, are hundreds of thousands of miles away. This idea of reuniting them, its getting harder, not easier. The government has trouble tracking kids in this situation and we know that the ownness is still put on the parents, who are often broke and uneducated migrants, to find their own kids. In fact, the administration is now asking the court this is where it gets messy, which is why we designed it this way. Theyre asking the court how long can we keep them . Can we keep them longer . In direct violation of law. Legally dubious at a minimum. The idea that we want to keep them in captivity longer . How is that about making this better . Even if families do get reunited, where will we keep them . These ever swelling ranks of families. The order instructs federal agencies, particularly the defense depar

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